So when are we going to have another revolutionary war?

BlancoNino

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We fought the war against the British because of ridiculous taxation. Now we're taxed more than ever with no signs of it slowing down. I predict another revolutionary war...and I just may sign up for the good fight (for lower taxes of course). Hell, it may be your head I wind up blowing off ;)

(Just a thought I had, don't take it too seriously)
 

EagleKeeper

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The original was taxation WITHOUT representation.

Are you allowed to vote for members of Congress?
 
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The difference is that we were paying taxes to an external source (and weren't seeing any returns from it), whereas now your taxes goes to your own country (even if you might not see any use of it).
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
We fought the war against the British because of ridiculous taxation. Now we're taxed more than ever with no signs of it slowing down. I predict another revolutionary war...and I just may sign up for the good fight (for lower taxes of course). Hell, it may be your head I wind up blowing off ;)

(Just a thought I had, don't take it too seriously)

So you're ready to rise up in armed revolution against the United States Government? Interesting...
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The original was taxation WITHOUT representation.

Are you allowed to vote for members of Congress?

This is really the difference. But you have to ask yourself...if the members of the colonies under British control were hardly taxed at all (but still without representation), do you think they would have gotten pissed off enough to still go to war? I don't.
 

tasmanian

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The original was taxation WITHOUT representation.

Are you allowed to vote for members of Congress?

Isnt it no taxation without representation? If so whats up with washington dc. They have no representation in the gov but their taxed.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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Washington D.C. does have representation. They get electoral votes in Presidential elections. They do not get Representatives nor Senators due to them not being a state.
 
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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The original was taxation WITHOUT representation.

Are you allowed to vote for members of Congress?

This is really the difference. But you have to ask yourself...if the members of the colonies under British control were hardly taxed at all (but still without representation), do you think they would have gotten pissed off enough to still go to war? I don't.

Why don't you go and actually learn what was all going on (you may have studied it but you don't seem to have actually learned all that much), as you are taking a very simplified view of things.
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Why don't you go and actually learn what was all going on (you may have studied it but you don't seem to have actually learned all that much), as you are taking a very simplified view of things.

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
(Just a thought I had, don't take it too seriously)


*COUGH* *COUGH*

;)
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
We fought the war against the British because of ridiculous taxation. Now we're taxed more than ever with no signs of it slowing down. I predict another revolutionary war...and I just may sign up for the good fight (for lower taxes of course). Hell, it may be your head I wind up blowing off ;)

(Just a thought I had, don't take it too seriously)

Look here. We are not "taxed more thatn ever".

It would be easier and less bloody to elect people you want to run the country.

 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The original was taxation WITHOUT representation.

Are you allowed to vote for members of Congress?

I don't think Blanco is old enough yet. ;)
 

LtPage1

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Hell, I'd revolt for much higher taxes. How about a $10/gallon gas tax for alternative energy research, a tenfold reduction in defense spending, and an extra 25% income tax to pay for an intelligent social policy? Yeah, I'd take to the streets for that.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The original was taxation WITHOUT representation.

Are you allowed to vote for members of Congress?

This is really the difference. But you have to ask yourself...if the members of the colonies under British control were hardly taxed at all (but still without representation), do you think they would have gotten pissed off enough to still go to war? I don't.
they were hardly taxed at all...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_revolution
The problem for many American colonists was not that taxes were high (they were low) but that they were not consulted about the new taxes, as they had no representation in parliament.

And for the opposite end of the ignorance spectrum...
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Hell, I'd revolt for much higher taxes. How about a $10/gallon gas tax for alternative energy research, a tenfold reduction in defense spending, and an extra 25% income tax to pay for an intelligent social policy? Yeah, I'd take to the streets for that.
yeah...utopian at best, but not exactly considering all of the consequences of such ridiculousness
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: tasmanian

Isnt it no taxation without representation? If so whats up with washington dc. They have no representation in the gov but their taxed.

Which is why they put "Taxation without representation" on their license plates.
 

IGBT

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..we're up to our arse in taxes because of voter apathy. They tax us because they know they can get away with it. Till that changes just hand over your wallet and bend over.
 
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I doubt any amount of taxation would ever bring about revolution on the same scale as we had (which, by the way, was probably about 25-40% popularly supported). To reach that kind of dissent today would require some monumental stupidity on the part of the government - declaring the US a christian theocracy, suspension of the Bill of Rights, etc. Actions like those could easily motivate 10-25% of the population to arms. I can't believe it would ever happen though.

I think it's much more likely that we'll face collapse under the weight of our beauracracy combined with our spiraling debt and rambo-like foreign affairs policies. Or a continuing slow seperation into factions which bring about the breakup of the union to smaller unions or individual states. Of course, accompanying any such event would be limited violence, but hardly anything classifiable as an armed national revolution.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: LtPage1
Hell, I'd revolt for much higher taxes. How about a $10/gallon gas tax for alternative energy research, a tenfold reduction in defense spending, and an extra 25% income tax to pay for an intelligent social policy? Yeah, I'd take to the streets for that.

commie :p

(Does sound tempting in some ways)

:(
 

bobdelt

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The original was taxation WITHOUT representation.

Are you allowed to vote for members of Congress?

And now we have the opposite. Representation without taxation for over 15% of working adults. Time for a war.


In realty, the us gov't would kill is in any revolutionary war. 2nd, we dont need one, we have a thing called democracy, and unless we're making a move towards communism (which wont happen in my lifetime) things are gonna stay that same.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Topic Title: So when are we going to have another revolutionary war?

We fought the war against the British because of ridiculous taxation.

Now we're taxed more than ever with no signs of it slowing down.

I predict another revolutionary war...and I just may sign up for the good fight (for lower taxes of course).

Hell, it may be your head I wind up blowing off

Interesting, when I brought this up years ago when P&N was started everyone said would never happen.

Funny how the tune has changed.

What it means is exactly as I said before, when enough people are personally negatively affected (taxed to the point quality of life is going down the sh!tter) they will band together for the revolt.

This is why the U.S. has put measures in place to call anyone at anytime an "enemy combatant" where you will be held indefinately in Haliburton Detention Centers with no hope of a trial until you die.

It will be used right here on American soil not overseas.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The original was taxation WITHOUT representation.

Are you allowed to vote for members of Congress?

Oh please.

Are you really saying Politicians are representing you taxing the hell out of you for all the nonsense that they are?

You must really enjoy pain.
 

bignateyk

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
We fought the war against the British because of ridiculous taxation. Now we're taxed more than ever with no signs of it slowing down. I predict another revolutionary war...and I just may sign up for the good fight (for lower taxes of course). Hell, it may be your head I wind up blowing off ;)

(Just a thought I had, don't take it too seriously)

Look here. We are not "taxed more thatn ever".

It would be easier and less bloody to elect people you want to run the country.


but..but.. then I would have to educate myself on the issues to elect someone competant to office...
 

bobdelt

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
We fought the war against the British because of ridiculous taxation. Now we're taxed more than ever with no signs of it slowing down. I predict another revolutionary war...and I just may sign up for the good fight (for lower taxes of course). Hell, it may be your head I wind up blowing off ;)

(Just a thought I had, don't take it too seriously)

Look here. We are not "taxed more thatn ever".

It would be easier and less bloody to elect people you want to run the country.


but..but.. then I would have to educate myself on the issues to elect someone competant to office...

That link doesnt go back very far
 
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I pay almost no taxes and make a very good living. Wife, kids, mortgage, tithe, 401K........it's not difficult to end up paying hardly anything for taxes.