SO what's the current pecking order with AMD cards?

Stoneburner

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I've been out of the loop and I can't find specific information other than the following: FUry x is the highest end radeon solution, and some of the lower end ones might be rebrands of prior architecture?

So what is the current order from top to bottom? I would like to upgrade an old 670.
EDIT: If possible, could you please note which cards are rebrands? Those often turn out to be best value with the most mature drivers, but sometimes I just feel like the latest and greatest)

Thanks in advance.
 
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Could be wrong on a few details but from what I can gather:

Fury X - top dog
Fury - cut down Fury X
R9 390X - higher clocked R9 290x with double VRAM
R9 290X
R9 390 - higher clocked R9 290 with double VRAM
R9 290
R9 280x - higher clocked 7970
R9 380 - higher clocked R9 285 with double VRAM
R9 285
R9 280 - higher clocked 7950
R7 270x - higher clocked 7870
R7 270 - 7870 with slower core but faster memory
R7 370 - cut down 7870/R9 270, or a higher clocked 7850.. OMFGWTFBBQ
R7 260x - higher clocked 7790
R7 360
R7 260 - cut down 7790

Was thinking about jumping to 290 but my 7870 Tahiti holds up well in DAI and Witcher 3.
 
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tential

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Could be wrong on a few details but from what I can gather:

Fury - top dog
Fury - cut down Fury X
R9 390X - higher clocked R9 290x with double VRAM
R9 290X
R9 390 - higher clocked R9 290 with double VRAM
R9 290
R9 280x - higher clocked 7970
R9 380 - higher clocked R9 285 with double VRAM
R9 285
R9 280 - higher clocked 7950
R7 270x - higher clocked 7870
R7 270 - 7870 with slower core but faster memory
R7 370 - cut down 7870/R9 270, or a higher clocked 7850.. OMFGWTFBBQ
R7 260x - higher clocked 7790
R7 360
R7 260 cut down 7790

Was thinking about jumping to 290 but my 7870 Tahiti holds up well DAI and Witcher 3.
Yup my 290 was about to be delivered in person for me but my 7950 gets the job done.
 

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YEPP has a fantastic list up there. Nice job!

Given that the OP has a 670, the very first card on the list to consider is the 290. Anything less than that is not a sufficient upgrade to make it worthwhile. In fact, the 380 and below are actually slower.
 

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I've been out of the loop and I can't find specific information other than the following: FUry x is the highest end radeon solution, and some of the lower end ones might be rebrands of prior architecture?

So what is the current order from top to bottom? I would like to upgrade an old 670.
EDIT: If possible, could you please note which cards are rebrands? Those often turn out to be best value with the most mature drivers, but sometimes I just feel like the latest and greatest)

Thanks in advance.
What perf class or price class are you upgrading to?
This gen nv is far better for efficiency but amd just edge out nv at pure perf for your $. The 970 vs 390 is a classic dilemma here that sits in the same price class as 670. What games at what res fps target are you playing? And your setup and preferences?
 

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Of course, the Nano is coming as well, and it will be someplace in that list ;)
 

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The 390 is at least on par with the 290x at the very minimum. Its a 290x 8GB for less money, basically. 390 was $329.99 when I got it, when the cheapest R9 290x 8GB I could find was in the $350 range.

I'm not sure how well R9 290xs overclock on average but I can push my 390 to 1200 core/1750 memory on air. From what I've read about other people talking about their 390s, that appears to be pretty average, with some people being able to hit a bit higher.

If you're looking for an 8GB GPU, the 390 is the best one for the price atm. You only get 3.5GBs of actual GDDR5 ram with a 970. Don't reward Nvidia for cutting corners.
 
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tential

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The 390 is at least on par with the 290x at the very minimum. Its a 290x 8GB for less money, basically. 390 was $329.99 when I got it, when the cheapest R9 290x 8GB I could find was in the $350 range.

I'm not sure how well R9 290xs overclock on average but I can push my 390 to 1200 core/1750 memory on air. From what I've read about other people talking about their 390s, that appears to be pretty average, with some people being able to hit a bit higher.

If you're looking for an 8GB GPU, the 390 is the best one for the price atm. You only get 3.5GBs of actual GDDR5 ram with a 970. Don't reward Nvidia for cutting corners.

And still stuck at 1800p VSR....
Despite it being shown that 4K VSR is clearly possible on this card.

8GB of VRAM is great but I doubt there is any situation where the 390 is playable and the GTX 970 isn't due to VRAM. If you can show me one that'd be great though.

I dislike both of these cards though.
 
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I own an unlocked 290. Mined on it 24/7/365 for about a year and it's holding up although the memory is only stable underclocked 30mhz from stock speeds (Damn Elpedia) but this really doesn't hurt performance luckily. It was faulty from the start, and not from the mining. These cards are tough and offer amazing performance for the price. If you can find a used 290 for cheap I would grab one before they dissappear. I sold my other unlockable one for 210 CAD a few months ago (about 160 US). There's no better value honestly.

Failing finding a cheap used 290 the 390 does looks attractive but I agree that the 8GB is kind of a waste on it considering it'll top out at 1440P. Sure a few bad console ports may exceed 4GB of RAM but I would still take one over a 970. The 970 is an awesome card but lacks attractive things like native H.265 acceleration like the 960 has and is roughly 5-10 percent slower than the cheaper 390. Of course power consumption under load is great but doesn't justify the premium IMO.

I used to own a 970 but sold it and kept my 290. Speed wise there's no difference to me. The deciding factor was being able to save 200+ bucks buying an Asus IPS freesync monitor over an Acer gsync with the same panel!

Anyways going green will cost you more money. Evaluate your needs carefully.
 
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tential

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I own an unlocked 290. Mined on it 24/7/365 for about a year and it's holding up although the memory is only stable underclocked 30mhz from stock speeds (Damn Elpedia) but this really doesn't hurt performance luckily. It was faulty from the start, and not from the mining. These cards are tough and offer amazing performance for the price. If you can find a used 290 for cheap I would grab one before they dissappear. I sold my other unlockable one for 210 CAD a few months ago (about 160 US). There's no better value honestly.

Failing finding a cheap used 290 the 390 does looks attractive but I agree that the 8GB is kind of a waste on it considering it'll top out at 1440P. Sure a few bad console ports may exceed 4GB of RAM but I would still take one over a 970. The 970 is an awesome card but lacks attractive things like native H.265 acceleration like the 960 has and is roughly 5-10 percent slower than the cheaper 390. Of course power consumption under load is great but doesn't justify the premium IMO.

I used to own a 970 but sold it and kept my 290. Speed wise there's no difference to me. The deciding factor was being able to save 200+ bucks buying an Asus IPS freesync monitor over an Acer gsync with the same panel!

Anyways going green will cost you more money. Evaluate your needs carefully.

970 is only cool to me because DSR 4K. But I liked the VSR screenshots better (Crisper) when I saw the reviews between VSR/DSR. Otherwise, 290/390 are still the best cards even if that 8GB isn't useful. I'm sure it helps though for AMD Moving cards. Everyone is scared ofrunning out of vram lol.
 

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What perf class or price class are you upgrading to?
This gen nv is far better for efficiency but amd just edge out nv at pure perf for your $. The 970 vs 390 is a classic dilemma here that sits in the same price class as 670. What games at what res fps target are you playing? And your setup and preferences?

I usually get 1 step below the top dog, but with Titans and X2's, that rule doesn't apply so well. To restate my rule, I like to get 1 step below the top single GPU regular rotation card.

However, it seems like the best performance/dollar is at two steps below the top single gpu regular card... I think I might hold off on my main desktop upgrade and upgrade the GPU in my HTPC instead.