So, what're some good alternatives to Pandora?

kyzen

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I thrive off Pandora at work, where some recent security initiatives have forbidden the use of portable storage drives (thus killing the fallback media collections on flash drives).

Are there any other online radio stations anywhere near as useful as Pandora? I'm fine with a brief add every few songs; but the inconvenience and/or cost of paying to listen just kills it for me.

Anybody else get this message?



Hi, it?s Tim -

I hope this email finds you enjoying a great summer Pandora soundtrack.

I?m writing with some important news. Please forgive the lengthy email; it requires some explaining.

First, I want to let you know that we?ve reached a resolution to the calamitous Internet radio royalty ruling of 2007. After more than two precarious years, we are finally on safe ground with a long-term agreement for survivable royalty rates ? thanks to the extraordinary efforts of our listeners who voiced an absolute avalanche of support for us on Capitol Hill. We are deeply thankful.
While we did the best we could to lower the rates, we are going to have to make an adjustment that will affect about 10% of our users who are our heaviest listeners. Specifically, we are going to begin limiting listening to 40 hours per month on the web. Because we have to pay royalty fees per song and per listener, it makes very heavy listeners hard to support on advertising alone. Most listeners will never hit this cap, but it seems that you might.

We hate the idea of capping anyone's usage, so we've been working to devise an alternative for listeners like you. We've come up with two solutions and we hope that one of them will work for you:
Your first option is to continue listening just as you have been and, if and when you reach the 40 hour limit in a given month, to pay just $0.99 for unlimited listening for the rest of that month. This isn't a subscription. You can pay by credit card and your card will be charged for just that one month. You'll be able to keep listening as much as you'd like for the remainder of the month. We hope this is relatively painless and affordable - the same price as a single song download.
Your second option is to upgrade to our premium version called Pandora One. Pandora One costs $36 per year. In addition to unlimited monthly listening and no advertising, Pandora One offers very high quality 192 Kbps streams, an elegant desktop application that eliminates the need for a browser, personalized skins for the Pandora player, and a number of other features: http://www.pandora.com/pandora_one.
If neither of these options works for you, I hope you'll keep listening to the free version - 40 hours each month will go a long way, especially if you're really careful about hitting pause when you?re not listening. We?ll be sure to let you know if you start getting close to the limit, and we?ve created a counter you can access to see how many hours you?ve already used each month.
We?ll be implementing this change starting this month (July), I?d welcome your feedback and suggestions. The combination of our usage patterns and the "per song per listener" royalty cost creates a financial reality that we can't ignore...but we very much want you to continue listening for years to come.

Please don't hesitate to email me back with your thoughts.

Sincerely,

Tim
Founder




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Lifer
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You are too cheap to pay $0.99 for a month, AFTER 40 hours of free listening? Seriously?
 

Dr. Detroit

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It's worth the $1 a month. Pay it to keep the Company afloat.

If you really want to get around the 40hr rule I'm sure you can create multiple logins?



 

kyzen

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Originally posted by: Quintox
You are too cheap to pay $0.99 for a month, AFTER 40 hours of free listening? Seriously?

Yup, pretty much. Flame away, but I just have no interest in paying for it at this point, when the 'webs are full of free content.

If I can't find any other alternatives, I'll probably just buy a small MP3 player to replace the one that Pandora replaced ages ago :p
 

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Originally posted by: Quintox
You are too cheap to pay $0.99 for a month, AFTER 40 hours of free listening? Seriously?

This. WTF.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: kyzen
Originally posted by: Quintox
You are too cheap to pay $0.99 for a month, AFTER 40 hours of free listening? Seriously?

Yup, pretty much. Flame away, but I just have no interest in paying for it at this point, when the 'webs are full of free content.

If I can't find any other alternatives, I'll probably just buy a small MP3 player to replace the one that Pandora replaced ages ago :p

Yup because that makes a lot of sense.

$12 for a year of unlimited streaming and you are going to blow $20 on an MP3 player then get songs how?

You used Pandora for however long and loved it, now when the company is in the shitter for providing freeloaders like you a great website, and they ask for a 100% reasonable and dirt cheap way of keeping their company alive, you go an look for another free site? :thumbsdown:
 

kyzen

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Originally posted by: Quintox
Originally posted by: kyzen
Originally posted by: Quintox
You are too cheap to pay $0.99 for a month, AFTER 40 hours of free listening? Seriously?

Yup, pretty much. Flame away, but I just have no interest in paying for it at this point, when the 'webs are full of free content.

If I can't find any other alternatives, I'll probably just buy a small MP3 player to replace the one that Pandora replaced ages ago :p

Yup because that makes a lot of sense.

$12 for a year of unlimited streaming and you are going to blow $20 on an MP3 player then get songs how?

You used Pandora for however long and loved it, now when the company is in the shitter for providing freeloaders like you a great website, and they ask for a 100% reasonable and dirt cheap way of keeping their company alive, you go an look for another free site? :thumbsdown:


Like most people, I have a pretty wide variety of music already on my computer. I just don't have a device to listen to it with, and haven't needed one since I started using Pandora. That's apparently changing. Oh well, it was good while it lasted I suppose.
 

Safeway

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Originally posted by: Quintox
Originally posted by: kyzen
Originally posted by: Quintox
You are too cheap to pay $0.99 for a month, AFTER 40 hours of free listening? Seriously?

Yup, pretty much. Flame away, but I just have no interest in paying for it at this point, when the 'webs are full of free content.

If I can't find any other alternatives, I'll probably just buy a small MP3 player to replace the one that Pandora replaced ages ago :p

Yup because that makes a lot of sense.

$12 for a year of unlimited streaming and you are going to blow $20 on an MP3 player then get songs how?

You used Pandora for however long and loved it, now when the company is in the shitter for providing freeloaders like you a great website, and they ask for a 100% reasonable and dirt cheap way of keeping their company alive, you go an look for another free site? :thumbsdown:

Hell, pay the one time $36 and forget about it. That is one night out. That is one tire for a bicycle. A few packages of batteries. Less than one hour of working.

Pay the $36, support a company that needs support, and stop being a tight ass.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: Quintox
Originally posted by: kyzen
Originally posted by: Quintox
You are too cheap to pay $0.99 for a month, AFTER 40 hours of free listening? Seriously?

Yup, pretty much. Flame away, but I just have no interest in paying for it at this point, when the 'webs are full of free content.

If I can't find any other alternatives, I'll probably just buy a small MP3 player to replace the one that Pandora replaced ages ago :p

Yup because that makes a lot of sense.

$12 for a year of unlimited streaming and you are going to blow $20 on an MP3 player then get songs how?

You used Pandora for however long and loved it, now when the company is in the shitter for providing freeloaders like you a great website, and they ask for a 100% reasonable and dirt cheap way of keeping their company alive, you go an look for another free site? :thumbsdown:

Hell, pay the one time $36 and forget about it. That is one night out. That is one tire for a bicycle. A few packages of batteries. Less than one hour of working.

Pay the $36, support a company that needs support, and stop being a tight ass.

Great minds think alike my friend. :cookie: and :beer: for you
 
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Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: Quintox
Originally posted by: kyzen
Originally posted by: Quintox
You are too cheap to pay $0.99 for a month, AFTER 40 hours of free listening? Seriously?

Yup, pretty much. Flame away, but I just have no interest in paying for it at this point, when the 'webs are full of free content.

If I can't find any other alternatives, I'll probably just buy a small MP3 player to replace the one that Pandora replaced ages ago :p

Yup because that makes a lot of sense.

$12 for a year of unlimited streaming and you are going to blow $20 on an MP3 player then get songs how?

You used Pandora for however long and loved it, now when the company is in the shitter for providing freeloaders like you a great website, and they ask for a 100% reasonable and dirt cheap way of keeping their company alive, you go an look for another free site? :thumbsdown:

Hell, pay the one time $36 and forget about it. That is one night out. That is one tire for a bicycle. A few packages of batteries. Less than one hour of working.

Pay the $36, support a company that needs support, and stop being a tight ass.

Actually it's about 3-4 hours of working for most of the country, but you go on ahead. :cool:

For the rest, why pay ANYTHING if you can get it someplace else for free?
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: Quintox
Originally posted by: kyzen
Originally posted by: Quintox
You are too cheap to pay $0.99 for a month, AFTER 40 hours of free listening? Seriously?

Yup, pretty much. Flame away, but I just have no interest in paying for it at this point, when the 'webs are full of free content.

If I can't find any other alternatives, I'll probably just buy a small MP3 player to replace the one that Pandora replaced ages ago :p

Yup because that makes a lot of sense.

$12 for a year of unlimited streaming and you are going to blow $20 on an MP3 player then get songs how?

You used Pandora for however long and loved it, now when the company is in the shitter for providing freeloaders like you a great website, and they ask for a 100% reasonable and dirt cheap way of keeping their company alive, you go an look for another free site? :thumbsdown:

Hell, pay the one time $36 and forget about it. That is one night out. That is one tire for a bicycle. A few packages of batteries. Less than one hour of working.

Pay the $36, support a company that needs support, and stop being a tight ass.

Actually it's about 3-4 hours of working for most of the country, but you go on ahead. :cool:

For the rest, why pay ANYTHING if you can get it someplace else for free?

If you appreciate the service they provide, and want to support their future efforts, maybe?

OP = FAIL
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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You're a cheap ass.

But there's also www.last.fm.

But just pay the $1! Pandora rocks - they do a great job with playlists and they have so many great, obscure artists on there.
 

swbsam

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I pray that the future of media s subscription based, since the free model can't survive. $1 for unlimited streaming radio is a bargain, especially since the content is so varied on pandora (aol radio, etc. sucks compared to pandora). I use slacker radio and, if I had an iphone 3g (I have edge), a small fee for the service would be a vastly better deal than satellite radio. Even without being able to use it in my car, I'd paypal them $20 if they were struggling and needed donations, since the service is awesome and i don't want their model to fail
 

swbsam

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your cheapness inspired me to buy a slacker radio, then I'll sign up for their monthly, ad-free version.. We gotta support the companies that do things right in this shaky economy.
 

surfsatwerk

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I will gladly financially support companies that provide me with a good product. I give to NPR because I listen to it on the way to work and I'll pay for Pandora because it is easily worth the money they're asking.
 

xboxist

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lol, what an ass. Refusing to pay $1 a month for a service that has obviously been enjoyed by you. Nice loyalty you have there.

 

acheron

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: Quintox
Originally posted by: kyzen
Originally posted by: Quintox
You are too cheap to pay $0.99 for a month, AFTER 40 hours of free listening? Seriously?

Yup, pretty much. Flame away, but I just have no interest in paying for it at this point, when the 'webs are full of free content.

If I can't find any other alternatives, I'll probably just buy a small MP3 player to replace the one that Pandora replaced ages ago :p

Yup because that makes a lot of sense.

$12 for a year of unlimited streaming and you are going to blow $20 on an MP3 player then get songs how?

You used Pandora for however long and loved it, now when the company is in the shitter for providing freeloaders like you a great website, and they ask for a 100% reasonable and dirt cheap way of keeping their company alive, you go an look for another free site? :thumbsdown:

Hell, pay the one time $36 and forget about it. That is one night out. That is one tire for a bicycle. A few packages of batteries. Less than one hour of working.

Pay the $36, support a company that needs support, and stop being a tight ass.

Actually it's about 3-4 hours of working for most of the country, but you go on ahead. :cool:

For the rest, why pay ANYTHING if you can get it someplace else for free?

median income for the US is about 50k, which is over $24/hr if you assume 52*40=2080 hours a year. so it's less than 1.5 hours of working for most of the country.

of course, that's using actual facts (Text), so i'm probably violating some rule of internet posting.
 

WisMan

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Couldn't you just make a second account and switch over after 40 hours?

I wonder if that cap will be the same for the black berry app? I easily use 40 hours a week on that, and i would happily pay a $1 a month to keep using it even if the first 40 hours weren't free.