So what was accomplished with Cecile Richards yesterday?

[steppinthrax]

This is all I saw.

1. A bunch of GOP circling over her like vultures trying each and every way to pick and prod.
2. Making statements to a person about you're opinions and/or beliefs of what you thought occurred etc.. and not allowing that person to respond?
3. Jealous because a woman is making more than you.
4. Jealous because a woman is in a position of power.
5. Using fake BS charts graphs to support your argument.
6. Talking over, cutting off, intimidation, abusive behaviors.

Pretty much anywhere between DH0 - DH2 of Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement (anandtech sticky)

Wait, the same people that support Trump will think this is a win for pro-life????

 

[boomerang]

I don't know why she appeared before them or what was accomplished. She should be in jail pending trial or out on bond pending trial. It is illegal to sell human organs in the U.S. and we have video indicating that PP does sell human organs.

But as to your points, #3 is absurd as is #4. Are you a teenager by any chance? Proof of #5? And #6 is the same as #2. And of course #1 is purely subjective.

 

[steppinthrax]

I don't know why she appeared before them or what was accomplished. She should be in jail pending trial or out on bond pending trial. It is illegal to sell human organs in the U.S. and we have video indicating that PP does sell human organs.

But as to your points, #3 is absurd as is #4. Are you a teenager by any chance? Proof of #5? And #6 is the same as #2. And of course #1 is purely subjective.

Well obviously you didn't watch it. Or maybe you did, didn't like how you're party (GOP) was behaving.

But that bad behavior is nothing new nowadays, right?

 

[Genx87]

I thought the Republicans werent inviting PP to these hearings? There was a troll thread on it a couple weeks back.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Boomer States AG's have looked into it and found nothing. Even the videos were talking about handing & transport. The people who made the videos tried their best using double speak to get someone to agree to ab illegal act which they couldn't even edit into the video.
I agree #3 & #4 are BS
Here salary is a relevant item
#5 showed a heavily manipulated graph that was breast cancer services(?) vs abortions that really didn't make sense. The Senator claimed it was derived from PP public records when in fact it was grabbed from an anti abortion website. The Senator clearly did little to no research.
I get it abortion is offensive but check your facts (the Senators)
Someone also asked why they don't PP doesn't do mammograms since breast cancer is a big threat. Her response was you need to see a radiologist usually at a hospital for that. Again the Senator did little to no research on that question.

From Rueters:
GRAPHIC VIDEO

The latest video shows what appears to be a Planned Parenthood doctor in a clinic discussing the price of fetal tissue with an actor pretending to be a potential buyer.

Someone in the video pokes flesh-like material with tweezers in a glass and the undercover actor points out what he says are tiny intact kidneys that a medical assistant describes as worthy of "five stars."

They discuss prices for fetal tissue.

"If we were doing like $50 to $75 per specimen, that'd be like $200 to $300 (total), and we'd be comfortable with that," the actor says.

The woman identified as a doctor replies, "I think a per-item thing works a little better just because we can see how much we can get out of it."

Federal law prohibits the trade of fetal tissue for profit but allows for donations for research or transplantation. Donors can receive "reasonable payments" for expenses such as transportation, processing and storage of the material.

The graph in question. Notice how the dollar amounts are presented to appear equal (the 289K is made to appear higher than the 935K) again taken from an anti-abortions website all the figures are not vetted below is her response:

When Richards said she’d never seen it before, Chaffetz replied: “It comes straight from your annual reports.”

Moments later, Richards shot back: “My lawyers just informed me that the source of this information is Americans United for Life, an anti-abortion group. I would check your source.”

 

[Newell Steamer]

So what was accomplished with Cecile Richards yesterday?

The GOP confirmed there is a war on women. They suck at it, but they certainly have an agenda to harm women and women's health.

 

[Genx87]

So what was accomplished with Cecile Richards yesterday?

The GOP confirmed there is a war on women. They suck at it, but they certainly have an agenda to harm women and women's health.

It's a WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Newell Steamer]

It's a WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And we learned new math; 327,653 > 935,573.

Thank you Conservatards!

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I don't know why she appeared before them or what was accomplished. She should be in jail pending trial or out on bond pending trial. It is illegal to sell human organs in the U.S. and we have video indicating that PP does sell human organs.

But as to your points, #3 is absurd as is #4. Are you a teenager by any chance? Proof of #5? And #6 is the same as #2. And of course #1 is purely subjective.

US Code 42 seems to disagree with you as far as what PP was doing is concerned.

(2) The term “valuable consideration” does not include the reasonable payments associated with the removal, transportation, implantation, processing, preservation, quality control, and storage of a human organ or the expenses of travel, housing, and lost wages incurred by the donor of a human organ in connection with the donation of the organ.

 

[Newell Steamer]

This is all I saw.

1. A bunch of GOP circling over her like vultures trying each and every way to pick and prod.
2. Making statements to a person about you're opinions and/or beliefs of what you thought occurred etc.. and not allowing that person to respond?
3. Jealous because a woman is making more than you.
4. Jealous because a woman is in a position of power.
5. Using fake BS charts graphs to support your argument.
6. Talking over, cutting off, intimidation, abusive behaviors.

Wait - I've seen this behavior before,... MY GOD!! The GOP is made up of P&N Conservatives!! No wonder the Righthadists defend these idiots tooth and nail,... IT'S THEM!!

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

All she had was that the videos were doctored, and that unsubstantiated lie flew out the window just before she testified. Poor, poor lying Cecile Richards.

 

[steppinthrax]

All she had was that the videos were doctored, and that unsubstantiated lie flew out the window just before she testified. Poor, poor lying Cecile Richards.

Explain.....

 

[Genx87]

And we learned new math; 327,653 > 935,573.

Thank you Conservatards!

This war will take decades and kill billions because of the inability of the GOP to use nuclear weapons.

 

[steppinthrax]

And we learned new math; 327,653 > 935,573.

Thank you Conservatards!

This is the rest of their math...


1 + 1 = 8

5 < 800

The sky is purple

3 + x = 8 (x = 100)

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Explain.....

She insisted that the videos were doctored....they weren't. Coalfire (forensic analysis and cybersecurity company) determined that the CMP video files “are authentic and show no evidence of manipulation or editing.”

 

[Newell Steamer]

This war will take decades and kill billions because of the inability of the GOP to use nuclear weapons.

I am serious; you guys need to STOP trying to use math - it's just not working out for you.

 

[Newell Steamer]

This is the rest of their math...


1 + 1 = 8

5 < 800

The sky is purple

3 + x = 8 (x = 100)

And; potato.

Check and un-guard, LULbirals!

 

[Genx87]

I am serious; you guys need to STOP trying to use math - it's just not working out for you.

The GOP is launching a new warship just to fight this war.

 

[Newell Steamer]

The GOP is launching a new warship just to fight this war.

Yeah, again, you guys suck at war as well,...

Sit this one out fella - you ain't going anywhere.

 

[boomerang]

US Code 42 seems to disagree with you as far as what PP was doing is concerned.

You're cracking me up.

Here's the link you should have provided to give context.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/274e

 

[MomentsofSanity]

You're cracking me up.

Here's the link you should have provided to give context.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/274e

You don't know how to read and interpret law do you?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/289g-2

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/289g

 

[boomerang]

All she had was that the videos were doctored, and that unsubstantiated lie flew out the window just before she testified. Poor, poor lying Cecile Richards.

Well at least we learned that PP doesn't perform mammograms which is contrary to the lies she told earlier which are documented in the video contained in the link below.

But, as we are well aware. "Victims" once so designated by the progressive left are fully and wholly entitled to say anything they wish regardless if it has any basis in truth. It's one of the benefits of being a victim. And any and all lies told cannot be held against said victim. In fact, it is a desirable trait.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...d_parenthood_caught_in_a_lie_to_congress.html

The revolving door of PP through which taxpayer money flows to end up in the pockets of Democrats will not be altered by the process going on in D.C. today. My guess is that that is because some money also ends up in the pockets of Republicans.

The dog and pony show is strictly for purposes of amusement.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

You don't know how to read and interpret law do you?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/289g-2

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/289g

It's a gray area where the legality revolves around profit...it's less than honest for you to frame it any other way.

http://m.snopes.com/fetal-tissue-sales/

A StemExpress brochure publicized by the organization Center for Medical Progress includes an endorsement from a Planned Parenthood official, Dr. Dorothy Furgerson, who was quoted as saying: “Our partnership with StemExpress is beneficial in a number of ways.” Planned Parenthood critics pointed out that the brochure included several references to the financial benefits for clinics of fetal tissue sales, such as a statement that a partnership with StemExpress “will also be contributing to the fiscal growth of your own clinic.” The wording of this promotional material has been proffered as evidence that abortion clinics are illegally profiting from fetal tissue sales.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

It's a gray area where the legality revolves around profit...it's less than honest for you to frame it any other way.

http://m.snopes.com/fetal-tissue-sales/

So you have something showing profitability for PP right? I ask as you left a lot out of that link that explains that PP provides the tissue to middlemen who then process the cells for research purposes which can cost tens of thousands. Those middlement then sell them to researchers. Where does that provide profit to PP?

This is the segment that preceeded your quoted section.

Fetal tissue may only be used or sold post-abortion with the consent of the woman undergoing the procedure. Although some researchers may obtain fetal tissue directly from abortion clinics at their own medical facilities, others have to purchase it from middlemen who pay fees to providers such as Planned Parenthood for specimens and then resell those specimens to researchers. Planned Parenthood maintains they charge only what the law allows (i.e., what they need to cover their expenses in such transactions), while the middlemen charge a markup to cover their processing costs. But regulation of these types of transactions is somewhat murky:

The fees, which can run to thousands of dollars for a tiny vial of cells, do not break the law, according to Arthur Caplan, the director of the division of medical ethics at NYU Langone Medical Center.

&#8220;It appears to be legal, no matter how much you charge,&#8221; Dr. Caplan said, adding that there appears to be little or no oversight of the processing fees. &#8220;It&#8217;s a very gray and musty area as to what you can charge.&#8221;

​

However, these transactions often involve far more than simply conveying fetal tissue from one place to another &#8212; they can also require very expensive processing and shipping necessary to satisfy the requirements of end purchasers:

StemExpress uses procurement technicians to obtain fetal tissue. &#8220;We&#8217;re collecting biohazardous waste, discarded waste,&#8221; [founder Cate] Dyer said. &#8220;They go to a hospital or to a facility that does terminations and collect tissues from those waste products.&#8221;

Back at the company, lab technicians process the tissue to try to isolate the specific cell type a researcher has ordered &#8212; for instance, fetal liver stem cells.

&#8220;These cells are hard to isolate,&#8221; Ms. Dyer said. &#8220;These are hard processes, expensive processes that take millions of dollars of equipment. Just to attempt to do some of these isolations can cost us thousands of dollars, and it may not even work.&#8221;

The effort is reflected in the pricing: a vial containing five million frozen fetal liver CD133+ stem cells can cost more than $24,000.

The final products are shipped fresh or frozen. Shipping fees are separate from specimen costs, and an overnight shipment to Germany, for example, can cost thousands of dollars, according to Ms. Dyer.
​

 

[soundforbjt]

She insisted that the videos were doctored....they weren't. Coalfire (forensic analysis and cybersecurity company) determined that the CMP video files &#8220;are authentic and show no evidence of manipulation or editing.&#8221;

Then how did the video of the woman having a miscarriage get in there?