ok i did some more looking on my own and found that there is the Abit ST6, the Asus TUSL2-C, the MSI 815E and 815EP, and then som gigabyte board that i dont remembe rthe model name for.  anyways, they are all pretty similar, but the MSI 815E i believe has onboard video and sound, and then the gigabyte board has onboard video and sound, and also is a microATX form factor,which is cool cus you could make a small computer out o=f it (check sig

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then a gain i've never really respected gigabyte much, i tind asus and MSI to be my faves but also i like abit alot too. ah and then ctk1981 you mention a soyo board, i'll have to look into that too.
anyways, its really hard to type because i'm burning an audio cd right now and its making the keyboard/mouse really jerky and hard to control 
 
ignor e any typoes please 
