Obama could still be considered a natural born citizen because his mother was American. McCain was born in Panama.
Obama's mom is an American :sneaky:
Yes, but his father was a UK citizen. Prior to (I believe 1983) anyone born of at least one UK parent was automatically given dual citizenship, no matter where they were born. thus, Obama would have dual citizenship, thus not eligible for presidency.
Yes, but his father was a UK citizen. Prior to (I believe 1983) anyone born of at least one UK parent was automatically given dual citizenship, no matter where they were born. thus, Obama would have dual citizenship, thus not eligible for presidency.
Incorrect.
Being able to claim dual citizenship is not a disqualifier for the presidency.
OK then I guess I misunderstood in that it wasnt given, but rather had to be claimed. I'll read some more
to Jhhhhhhn: Shut the fuck up man. you have no idea where I stand on this issue.
Yeah, the only requirement is that you were born in the US, the citizenship of your parents is actually irrelevant.
to Jhhhhhhn: Shut the fuck up man. you have no idea where I stand on this issue.
I understand that you grant credibility to Birther bullshit. It's all been asked and answered, about a million times, but it'll never be good enough for people who refuse to face the reality of a black democrat with a funny name being the Prez.
Get over it. The fact that he's bent over backward and betrayed his base on occasion to satisfy the ideological whims of Righties should make it a little easier to swallow.
Geeze. I wish The US would just annex Kenya, declare it a state, then change the laws so that anywhere that is a state ever grants full citizenship to all people even if they were born there before it was a state. Then at least this can be put to rest.
I do? Thats news to me. Asking questions != grant credibility. Frankly, Ive always thought the main points of the birther movement have been bullshit. Find me one thread where Ive given the movement "credibility" and have denied facts and I got a $1000 paypal with your name on it.
By the way have you stopped raping your neighbor?
It pretty much is put to rest for those that look.
The republican party would immediately demand he be impeached.
"The former unincorporated territory of the Panama Canal Zone and its related military facilities were not regarded as United States territory at the time -Wikipedia "
"Section 201(g) NA and section 301(g) INA (8 U.S.C. 1401(g)) (formerly
section 301(a)(7) INA) both specify that naturalization is "the conferring of
nationality of a state upon a person after birth." Clearly, then, Americans
who acquired their citizenship by birth abroad to U.S. citizens are not
considered naturalized citizens under either act."
This whole thing is ridiculous. If you're born to an American parent abroad you are American by birth. Think of it this way, would it really be fair to say that some kid born on a foreign military base to Americans shouldn't be allowed to become president? Of course not.
Dude, if you can't accept anything less than 100% party line compliance then you'll find the world a pretty harsh place. "It pretty much is put to rest for those who look" clearly means the issue is settled already, nothing else required. I won't ask you to not be a partisan hack, but at least don't be a total dick* about it.Heh. Why that's all Patranus was doing when he trolled the forum with this thread- just asking an innocent little question, right? And your question was just more of the same, I'm sure.
Pretty much? Kinda like an atomic bomb "pretty much" wiped out Hiroshima? Like it's "pretty much" a sure thing that the sun will come up in the morning?
Hell, you just granted Birthers more credibility than they deserve, affirming the notion that they "might" be right.
Where's my $1000?
Heh. Why that's all Patranus was doing when he trolled the forum with this thread- just asking an innocent little question, right? And your question was just more of the same, I'm sure.
Pretty much? Kinda like an atomic bomb "pretty much" wiped out Hiroshima? Like it's "pretty much" a sure thing that the sun will come up in the morning?
Hell, you just granted Birthers more credibility than they deserve, affirming the notion that they "might" be right.
Where's my $1000?
Incorrect.
Being able to claim dual citizenship is not a disqualifier for the presidency.
True.
But there are still two questions about Obama's duel citizenship. When he was a child, he went to a state run school in Indonesia. Those schools are for Indonesian citizens only and Indonesia didn't recognize dual citizenship. What was his citizenship at this time? Additionally, he traveled to Pakistan back in the early '80s yet passport records for this are being kept from public view. Did he travel on a American passport or a foreign passport?
