So what exactly will the President have to do to get off the defensive?

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: lozina
Gee, you'd think with such a left-slanted press out to hurt Republicans and favor Democrats that we'd never have heard about the Monica Lewinksi scandal?

Repeat after me: Clinton isn't the President. Clinton isn't the President. Clinton isn't the President. Clinton isn't the President. Clinton isn't the President. Clinton isn't the President. Clinton isn't the President.

CkG

Is there a response to my question perhaps in very tiny font somewhere in your reply? I can't seem to find it...

I'll have to remember that for next time one of the bleaters excuse clinton because he isn't the President

CkG

To be fair his statment wasn't.."but Clinton did something". He was talking about the press and its past behavior.

Ah, but it's still OK to compare responses and such with Clinton but not actual policy or other things of substance...gotcha.

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Hafen
Don't forget Gary Condit either (and a long list of other Dems.) The press will tear anyone apart because it sells.

The stupid "liberial-media bais" conspiracy theories are just that. There are biased organizations on both sides, but the liberal-media as puppetmaster tinfoil hat arguements are just silly. Bush makes himself an easy target because he is an idiot and a fool who ineptly runs his administration, and must hide or minimize the realities of all his poor decisions.

Those were about SEX. Sex sells. It wasn't about the person or the policies - it was about SEX.

Those who think there is no bias in the media are just blind to reality. Keep tuning into your brokaw and jennings

Baahhhh Bahhhhh Baaaahhhh..

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Repeat after me: Clinton isn't the President. Clinton isn't the President. Clinton isn't the President. Clinton isn't the President. Clinton isn't the President. Clinton isn't the President. Clinton isn't the President. CkG

To borrow from David Schwimmer: "You're not using it right"

Neither were you. Nobody's point in that other thread was to "excuse" Bush because of what Clinton did or didn't do. It was to put things in context....something the people on the left here have a hard time doing

CkG

 

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Hafen
Don't forget Gary Condit either (and a long list of other Dems.) The press will tear anyone apart because it sells.

The stupid "liberial-media bais" conspiracy theories are just that. There are biased organizations on both sides, but the liberal-media as puppetmaster tinfoil hat arguements are just silly. Bush makes himself an easy target because he is an idiot and a fool who ineptly runs his administration, and must hide or minimize the realities of all his poor decisions.

Those were about SEX. Sex sells. It wasn't about the person or the policies - it was about SEX.

Those who think there is no bias in the media are just blind to reality. Keep tuning into your brokaw and jennings

Baahhhh Bahhhhh Baaaahhhh..

CkG

And you'll tune into Fox News? The argument that the media is slanted left is completely false and it's old. Could you show me some hard facts? For a liberal media, I'm pretty sure I remember Al Gore getting grilled alot more than Bush.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
The President will always get negative press, because the media is largely dominated by left-leaning organizations. CBS, 60 Minutes and the Clarke book are a good example. CBS used 60 minutes to push the book, which Viacom has a financial stake in.

Are the "left-leaning" organizations you refer to that same organizations ripped up Howard Dean?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: wkabel23

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Hafen
Don't forget Gary Condit either (and a long list of other Dems.) The press will tear anyone apart because it sells.

The stupid "liberial-media bais" conspiracy theories are just that. There are biased organizations on both sides, but the liberal-media as puppetmaster tinfoil hat arguements are just silly. Bush makes himself an easy target because he is an idiot and a fool who ineptly runs his administration, and must hide or minimize the realities of all his poor decisions.

Those were about SEX. Sex sells. It wasn't about the person or the policies - it was about SEX.

Those who think there is no bias in the media are just blind to reality. Keep tuning into your brokaw and jennings

Baahhhh Bahhhhh Baaaahhhh..

CkG

And you'll tune into Fox News? The argument that the media is slanted left is completely false and it's old. Could you show me some hard facts? For a liberal media, I'm pretty sure I remember Al Gore getting grilled alot more than Bush.

Here is a quick sample of "unbiased" reporting
Oh - and I don't have cable and so I don't watch FOX News - junior Like I said - anyone who won't admit there is bias in the media is not living in reality.

CkG

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: wkabel23

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Hafen
Don't forget Gary Condit either (and a long list of other Dems.) The press will tear anyone apart because it sells.

The stupid "liberial-media bais" conspiracy theories are just that. There are biased organizations on both sides, but the liberal-media as puppetmaster tinfoil hat arguements are just silly. Bush makes himself an easy target because he is an idiot and a fool who ineptly runs his administration, and must hide or minimize the realities of all his poor decisions.

Those were about SEX. Sex sells. It wasn't about the person or the policies - it was about SEX.

Those who think there is no bias in the media are just blind to reality. Keep tuning into your brokaw and jennings

Baahhhh Bahhhhh Baaaahhhh..

CkG

And you'll tune into Fox News? The argument that the media is slanted left is completely false and it's old. Could you show me some hard facts? For a liberal media, I'm pretty sure I remember Al Gore getting grilled alot more than Bush.

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Oh - and I don't have cable and so I don't watch FOX News - junior Like I said - anyone who won't admit there is bias in the media is not living in reality.

CkG

You are right. The media shows a strong conservative bias today.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Ldir
You are right. The media shows a strong conservative bias today.

FOXnews might. Any other ones you wish to claim are "conservative" ms. stahl?

CkG

 

[0roo0roo]

its telling there are blatantly conservative networks/outlets, yet few to none really liberal networks/outlets on the same level? the best you can say is that cnn and abc/nbc try to be moderate

 

[Corn]

Make no mistake. The media is fueled by $$ first, ideology second. Controversy and scandal are what sells the news. Reporting the scandals of Clinton and Bush sold papers, how said reporting was slanted was/is the result of ideology.

Claiming there is no left/right, or only left/right bias in the media is ridiculous. The extent of the bias can be easily determined by witnessing the endorsements for political office these media organizations dole out during the various election cycles. Bias is easy to spot.

The only thing I'll give credit to Fox news is that their bias is far more apparent than other "respected' news sources.

 

[biostud]

If I knew I wouldn't tell.

 

[Gaard]

The only thing I'll give credit to Fox news is that their bias is far more apparent than other "respected' news sources.

Apparent is an understatement.

Btw, to my knowledge, not a single network (or other media outlet) will admit to being biased one way or another. Can anyone think of one.

Oh, and Clinton/Lewinsky was about SEX also.

Baaarrrff.

 

[Siddhartha]

Bush needs a national emergency to focus attention away from his policies, the occupation of Iraq, and the economy and help him look presidential. Finding Bin Laden would not hurt either...

 

[chess9]

If I were Bush I'd keep my mouth shut and simply chill until September. No debates, no press interviews, de natha, zip, zero public contact.

Why? Because Bush has a bad case of FOOT IN THE MOUTH DISEASE. He can't make a speech without looking and sounding like some hick goofball who lost his way out of the Pedernales and is wandering around Washinton looking for a home. I'd probably throw him a quarter if I saw him on the street.....

Yes, he is worse than Kerry, but that isn't saying much. Every time Kerry speaks he sounds like he just took the mike from God and is getting ready to tell God what an idiot she is. Kerry wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth, he was born with a silver shovel up his ass. If he wins, he'll be just as much fun to kick around as Bush, I'm sure.

What ever happened to plain talk? God, I miss Harry Truman....

-Robert

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Bush needs a national emergency to focus attention away from his policies, the occupation of Iraq, and the economy and help him look presidential. Finding Bin Laden would not hurt either...

Maybe the reason we haven't heard about bin laden is because they've had him in a cell somewhere for the past two years...just waiting to 'find' him around November.

 

[Jhhnn]

So what exactly will the President have to do to get off the defensive?

He'd have to do a 180 degree turn in many respects, and that's not going to happen. He successfully campaigned to the center in 2000, but has ruled from the far right ever since 9/11. On the domestic front, he's pandered heavily to the Corporatists, Theocrats, and the destroy the government faction of the ultra-wealthy. He's done the same in the realm of foreign policy with the Neocons. And he'll continue, that's his base.

Meanwhile, that's disillusioned many of his centrist supporters, who feel that they've been used, abused and generally deceived. Dubya's commitments dictate that they're in for more of the same, meaning that even the most stubborn will begin to see the light before the election. Too many false promises, too much obvious pandering, too little restraint or honest compromise.

The whole Liberal Press routine is more of the same from the far right, who tend to see Barry Goldwater as Left-leaning... The Press was acting like the Admin's lapdog until just recently, faithfully spreading the Admin's line on everything, afraid they'd "lose access". Recently, however, the seem to be waking up, seeing as how they haven't really been given any "access", anyway...

I suspect that they've caught the smell of blood in the water... which drives them crazy, works up their appetites and aggressive instincts. Perhaps some additional wounds from the Cheney energy papers, Iraq, The whole extra-judicial detention thing, the Plame affair or a host of other potential imbroglios will set the press into a feeding frenzy reminiscent of the end of the Nixon Presidency. I certainly hope so, couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of fellas....