so this happened .. (Android)

DigDog

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Google Maps has a feature called Shake, where you shake your phone to send feedback to google, such as "if a road is incorrectly named".

I didnt even know the thing existed, but anyway, as im holding my phone, i see that the shake thing went off; there's a message on my screen saying

"You have shaken your phone" (i did not actually shake my phone)
"do you want to send feedback to google, or do you want to turn this feature off ??"

Being the person that i am, i clicked "yes plx disable" BAM! my accelerometer got bricked.

stuck on -32768 on the X axis. screen rotation doesnt work anymore.

factory reset didnt solve. sensor test untility and calibration didnt work.

i hate you google. i hate the fact that you dont allow me to reset my password to what i want. that you have invaded my phone. that your bullshit cant be uninstalled and that you always auto update.

dont be evil my ass.
 

DigDog

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i dont think you think.

but let's assume that you do, for however far fetched that is;

i'm watching some youtube videos, in landscape mode. everything works.
i get out at johnstone train station and the maps popup disables the feature.
rotation no longer works.

shake depends on the accelerometer. rotation depends on the accelerometer. test mode tells me the accelerometer is stuck.

COINCIDENCE ?
 
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khha4113

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i dont think you think.

but let's assume that you do, for however far fetched that is;

i'm watching some youtube videos, in landscape mode. everything works.
i get out at johnstone train station and the maps popup disables the feature.
rotation no longer works.

shake depends on the accelerometer. rotation depends on the accelerometer. test mode tells me the accelerometer is stuck.

COINCIDENCE ?
What phone are you using? I always disable 'shake to send feedback' on my phones (3 of them S4, S5 and Nexus 5) and have no problem with screen rotation. Like other poster said, I don't think it's Google fault rather your phone's itself.
PS. I tried to replicate your problem on my S5. It didn't show "do you want to send feedback to google, or do you want to turn this feature off ??" but only 2 options 'send feedback' or 'dismiss'. It also instructs if you want to disable this feature, you can do it in its settings. When I pressed 'dismiss', my screen rotation still woks after that. Are you sure you didn't disable 'auto rotation' in your phone's settings?
 

DigDog

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thats in settings. i got a popup while using google maps which said "you have shaken your phone .. etc" ; you might be right on the wording being "dismiss". thing is, thats the only thing i have done with my android since. have no sent messages, received calls, plugged it in or out, and so on. its been in my breast pocket or on a desk.

and the both rely on the accelerometer, and i cant think of anything else which does, except screen rotation, which suddenly has stopped working.

VLC has a function to rotate the video regardless of the orientation, and that fails too.


i have total cover on this handset, so it's not the end of the world, even though who knows how long i need to wait for it to be fixed/replaced. still, it's annoying.
 

teejee

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You don't seem to understand the cause of effect here.
Following happened:
1. Your accelerometer got damaged (e g defect component)
2.it reported strange data when it broke, this was interpreted as shake by maps.
3. Accelerometer is completely broken

It seems like you believe maps is involved in this, it is not.
 

gorcorps

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You have a logical fallacy in your conclusion that I don't understand how you missed. You specifically said that it popped up and that "i did not actually shake my phone". That is the moment your accelerometer started acting up. It wouldn't have triggered that screen under normal conditions without shaking, so something was happening with the accelerometer at that moment to cause that to pop up. It was just a coincidence you were in maps at the time, which just happens to have a menu pop up when your phone thinks it's being shook.

It maybe broke while you were IN maps, not because of maps... and that's based on your own story.
 

DigDog

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You don't seem to understand the cause of effect here.
Following happened:
1. Your accelerometer got damaged (e g defect component)
2.it reported strange data when it broke, this was interpreted as shake by maps.
3. Accelerometer is completely broken

It seems like you believe maps is involved in this, it is not.

if you had taken the time to read what i posted, you will see that this is not true.
or rather, exceptionally unlikely.

since i was travelling on the train between paisley and johnstone, middle coach, near the window, WATCHING VIDEO ON MY ANDROID IN LANDSCAPE MODE.

i watched a few youtube videos, the end of an episode of bobs burgers, and a few seconds of the ending scene from phantom of paradise.

WHICH LEADS ME TO FOOLISHLY BELIEVE that the accelerometer was working fine, as the screen rotated when i asked it to, just a few seconds before maps decided to give me the shake popup.

so you are telling me that in the exact same moment i decided to switch between VLC and Maps, right there the accelerometer broke.
 
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if you had taken the time to read what i posted, you will see that this is not true.
or rather, exceptionally unlikely.

since i was travelling on the train between paisley and johnstone, middle coach, near the window, WATCHING VIDEO ON MY ANDROID IN LANDSCAPE MODE.

i watched a few youtube videos, the end of an episode of bobs burgers, and a few seconds of the ending scene from phantom of paradise.

WHICH LEADS ME TO FOOLISHLY BELIEVE that the accelerometer was working fine, as the screen rotated when i asked it to, just a few seconds before maps decided to give me the shake popup.

so you are telling me that in the exact same moment i decided to switch between VLC and Maps, right there the accelerometer broke.

How exactly do you think Google Maps would be able to damage your accelerometer? I would think Maps just takes the information the sensor provides and doesn't have low level access to it, and in fact it probably is just reading the date provided by the driver/API or whatever that is actually handling the sensor.

If you want to complain about Google I'd think your better argument would be Android itself, as software should not be able to break something that should be output only (meaning the sensor sends output, nothing actually controls or inputs to the sensor).

If anything, it sounds like VLC could be just as much the culprit as Maps.

But, like others have said, it's every bit, and actually more likely that your accelerometer just broke on its own and that it just happened at that moment and then Maps just interpreted the signal the sensor fed it.
 

Elixer

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so you are telling me that in the exact same moment i decided to switch between VLC and Maps, right there the accelerometer broke.
Things can break at any time...
Try a factory reset of the phone and see if that works.
 

DigDog

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factory reset done, no result. being old and having lived through the 90s, i'm more likely to point the finger at horrible coding rather than pure randomness; "should not have low level access" is something i've seen go wrong a few times already. still, nobody will know for sure.

phone is going back to shop tomorrow.
 

sm625

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Maybe it did break. I think the accelerometer in my tablet broke. It no longer auto-rotates. But its a windows tablet so I just use the normal windows rotate setting.
 

sweenish

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Someone never learned that correlation != causation.

If it was code, you would not be the only person reporting this.