so this girl tells me her 17yo sister is a pilot
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Commercial
A commercial pilot may be compensated for flying. Training for the certificate focuses on a better understanding of aircraft systems and a higher standard of airmanship. The commercial certificate itself does not allow a pilot to fly in instrument meteorological conditions, and commercial pilots without an instrument rating are restricted to daytime flight within 50 nautical miles when flying for hire.
A commercial airplane pilot must be able to operate a complex airplane, as a specific number of hours of complex (or turbine-powered) aircraft time are among the prerequisites, and at least a portion of the practical examination is performed in a complex aircraft.
The requirements are:
* Be at least 18 years of age
* Hold a private pilot certificate
* Be able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language
* Accumulate and log a specified amount of training and experience; the following are part of the airplane single-engine land class rating requirements:
o If training under Part 61, at least 250 hours of piloting time including 20 hours of training with an instructor and 10 hours of solo flight, and other requirements including several "cross-country" flights, i.e. more than 50 nautical miles (93 km) from the departure airport and both solo and instructor-accompanied night flights
o If training under Part 141, at least 120 hours of training time including 55 hours with an instructor and 10 hours of solo flight, and other requirements including several cross-country, solo, and night flights
* Pass an aeronautical knowledge test
* Pass an oral test and flight test administered by an FAA inspector, FAA-designated examiner, or authorized check instructor (Part 141 only)
By itself, this certificate does not permit the pilot to set up an operation that carries members of the public for hire; such operations are governed by other regulations. Otherwise, a commercial pilot can be paid for certain types of operation, such as banner towing, agricultural applications, and photography, and can be paid for instructing if he holds a flight instructor certificate. To fly for hire, the pilot must hold a second class medical certificate, which is valid for one year.
Often, the commercial certificate will reduce the pilot?s insurance premiums, as it is evidence of training to a higher safety standard.
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A commercial pilot may be compensated for flying. Training for the certificate focuses on a better understanding of aircraft systems and a higher standard of airmanship. The commercial certificate itself does not allow a pilot to fly in instrument meteorological conditions, and commercial pilots without an instrument rating are restricted to daytime flight within 50 nautical miles when flying for hire.
A commercial airplane pilot must be able to operate a complex airplane, as a specific number of hours of complex (or turbine-powered) aircraft time are among the prerequisites, and at least a portion of the practical examination is performed in a complex aircraft.
The requirements are:
* Be at least 18 years of age
* Hold a private pilot certificate
* Be able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language
* Accumulate and log a specified amount of training and experience; the following are part of the airplane single-engine land class rating requirements:
o If training under Part 61, at least 250 hours of piloting time including 20 hours of training with an instructor and 10 hours of solo flight, and other requirements including several "cross-country" flights, i.e. more than 50 nautical miles (93 km) from the departure airport and both solo and instructor-accompanied night flights
o If training under Part 141, at least 120 hours of training time including 55 hours with an instructor and 10 hours of solo flight, and other requirements including several cross-country, solo, and night flights
* Pass an aeronautical knowledge test
* Pass an oral test and flight test administered by an FAA inspector, FAA-designated examiner, or authorized check instructor (Part 141 only)
By itself, this certificate does not permit the pilot to set up an operation that carries members of the public for hire; such operations are governed by other regulations. Otherwise, a commercial pilot can be paid for certain types of operation, such as banner towing, agricultural applications, and photography, and can be paid for instructing if he holds a flight instructor certificate. To fly for hire, the pilot must hold a second class medical certificate, which is valid for one year.
Often, the commercial certificate will reduce the pilot?s insurance premiums, as it is evidence of training to a higher safety standard.
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AMDZen
Lifer
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No, its not possible.
You can't even get a job as a commercial pilot unless you have previous flight experience. So almost always had to have served in teh Air force, navy, marines - or as a pilot somewhere else (don't know where).
I have friends that went to school, got their pilot license and some even have experience. This is what they tell me
EDIT: I forgot to mention that these friends have applied to be pilots and we're told they didn't have enough experience yet but to try again after a few more years, or a few 100 more hours of flying. If my 26 yo friend that went to college just to be a pilot, and has quite a bit of experience can't get a job as a commercial pilot (yet) then this is how I can guarentee a 17 yo couldn't either
You can't even get a job as a commercial pilot unless you have previous flight experience. So almost always had to have served in teh Air force, navy, marines - or as a pilot somewhere else (don't know where).
I have friends that went to school, got their pilot license and some even have experience. This is what they tell me
EDIT: I forgot to mention that these friends have applied to be pilots and we're told they didn't have enough experience yet but to try again after a few more years, or a few 100 more hours of flying. If my 26 yo friend that went to college just to be a pilot, and has quite a bit of experience can't get a job as a commercial pilot (yet) then this is how I can guarentee a 17 yo couldn't either
Considering you have to be 21 to drive a commercial truck from state to state...
I would guess the restrictions for flying a commercial aircraft would be greater than or equal to that.
I would guess the restrictions for flying a commercial aircraft would be greater than or equal to that.
Ill call shens.
Airlines require an ATP rating to fly.
This takes more than a few hours in the cockpit. They also require lots of hours in turbines(>1000). Something a 17 year old doesnt usually get exposure to.
Finally, I dont see an airline entrusting a multi-million dollar aircraft and its passengers(potential lawsuits) to a 17 year old.
Edit: And it appears you have to be 18 to get a commercial and ATP rating.
Airlines require an ATP rating to fly.
This takes more than a few hours in the cockpit. They also require lots of hours in turbines(>1000). Something a 17 year old doesnt usually get exposure to.
Finally, I dont see an airline entrusting a multi-million dollar aircraft and its passengers(potential lawsuits) to a 17 year old.
Edit: And it appears you have to be 18 to get a commercial and ATP rating.
GuitarDaddy
Lifer
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You can get a pilot's license at 17 years of age, but I know for a fact that US Airways minimum age for flight attendants is 20... so I seriously doubt they would let a 17-year old fly one of their planes.
MikeyIs4Dcats
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GuitarDaddy
Lifer
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http://www.iswap.org/Firsts-OtherNotable.html
"Duana Robinson was the youngest female to be hired for a major US airline when she was 21 years of age. She was hired by Texas International on 13Feb78 to fly the DC-9."
"Duana Robinson was the youngest female to be hired for a major US airline when she was 21 years of age. She was hired by Texas International on 13Feb78 to fly the DC-9."
BoomerD
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From the US Dept. of Labor:
"All pilots who are paid to transport passengers or cargo must have a commercial pilot?s license with an instrument rating issued by the FAA. Helicopter pilots must hold a commercial pilot?s certificate with a helicopter rating. To qualify for these licenses, applicants must be at least 18 years old and have at least 250 hours of flight experience. The experience required can be reduced through participation in certain flight school curricula approved by the FAA. Applicants also must pass a strict physical examination to make sure that they are in good health and have 20/20 vision with or without glasses, good hearing, and no physical handicaps that could impair their performance. They must pass a written test that includes questions on the principles of safe flight, navigation techniques, and FAA regulations, and must demonstrate their flying ability to FAA or designated examiners.
To fly during periods of low visibility, pilots must be rated by the FAA to fly by instruments. Pilots may qualify for this rating by having the required hours of flight experience, including 40 hours of experience in flying by instruments; they also must pass a written examination on procedures and FAA regulations covering instrument flying and demonstrate to an examiner their ability to fly by instruments. Requirements for the instrument rating vary depending on the certification level of flight school.
Airline pilots must fulfill additional requirements. Pilots must have an airline transport pilot?s license. Applicants for this license must be at least 23 years old and have a minimum of 1,500 hours of flying experience, including night and instrument flying, and must pass FAA written and flight examinations. Usually, they also have one or more advanced ratings depending on the requirements of their particular job. Because pilots must be able to make quick decisions and accurate judgments under pressure, many airline companies reject applicants who do not pass required psychological and aptitude tests. All licenses are valid so long as a pilot can pass the periodic physical and eye examinations and tests of flying skills required by the FAA and company regulations."
So...I'd say your gf is either full of sh*t, or her sister is a pilot's "cockpit"...
"All pilots who are paid to transport passengers or cargo must have a commercial pilot?s license with an instrument rating issued by the FAA. Helicopter pilots must hold a commercial pilot?s certificate with a helicopter rating. To qualify for these licenses, applicants must be at least 18 years old and have at least 250 hours of flight experience. The experience required can be reduced through participation in certain flight school curricula approved by the FAA. Applicants also must pass a strict physical examination to make sure that they are in good health and have 20/20 vision with or without glasses, good hearing, and no physical handicaps that could impair their performance. They must pass a written test that includes questions on the principles of safe flight, navigation techniques, and FAA regulations, and must demonstrate their flying ability to FAA or designated examiners.
To fly during periods of low visibility, pilots must be rated by the FAA to fly by instruments. Pilots may qualify for this rating by having the required hours of flight experience, including 40 hours of experience in flying by instruments; they also must pass a written examination on procedures and FAA regulations covering instrument flying and demonstrate to an examiner their ability to fly by instruments. Requirements for the instrument rating vary depending on the certification level of flight school.
Airline pilots must fulfill additional requirements. Pilots must have an airline transport pilot?s license. Applicants for this license must be at least 23 years old and have a minimum of 1,500 hours of flying experience, including night and instrument flying, and must pass FAA written and flight examinations. Usually, they also have one or more advanced ratings depending on the requirements of their particular job. Because pilots must be able to make quick decisions and accurate judgments under pressure, many airline companies reject applicants who do not pass required psychological and aptitude tests. All licenses are valid so long as a pilot can pass the periodic physical and eye examinations and tests of flying skills required by the FAA and company regulations."
So...I'd say your gf is either full of sh*t, or her sister is a pilot's "cockpit"...
well she told this story about how her sister (Indian family btw) went to a tech highschool and took college classes on the side when she was an early teen and has been flying I guess recreational planes since she was very young
I just want to know if it is AT ALL POSSIBLE or if I should go right back and tell her it is not possible
one or two of you said you have to be 18, but I wasn't sure if that was just in most circumstances or if that is a hard rule for everybody
>>clarify?
I just want to know if it is AT ALL POSSIBLE or if I should go right back and tell her it is not possible
one or two of you said you have to be 18, but I wasn't sure if that was just in most circumstances or if that is a hard rule for everybody
>>clarify?
Don't listen to the noobs in this thread with their propoganda. It's definitely possible probably.
GuitarDaddy
Lifer
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Read the two post just above yours. The youngest US female pilot for a US airline was 21 in 1978, before current regs were put in place. Current regs as posted by BoomerD require you to be 23 regardless of gender.
So you can absolutely tell her she is full of crap
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