So there's a 2004 Expedition sitting in my driveway

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Rogodin2

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There is a difference between a kayak and a bass rig. Two very different purposes.

A hike-in 'bass rig' is different than a large lake 'bass rig', the diffence between a 16' sit on top and a float tube.

If he's making a living from guiding with a petrol powered boat then he'll have to adapt as prices go up.

I know what you're writing about tcnr.

Rogo

 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: eits
gas is $3.30+ in most places...

hmm... sounds like a very wise decision to buy a ford excessi-... i mean expedition.

:roll:

Hey...get it right...That's Ford Environment Killer...or at least according to many of the posters here...;)
 

alkemyst

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I didn't know any Bronco that had a Ford Mach Audio System in it. My father owns a 96 EB.
 

heymrdj

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
I didn't know any Bronco that had a Ford Mach Audio System in it. My father owns a 96 EB.

Hey guys. I'm The_Coolness's twin brother. I decided to join here cause the pcmech forums are getting to boring with too many rules.

Intro's aside, yes we put the Expedition on order yesterday at River Bend Ford. It will be ready Tuesday afternoon, just in time for us to drive it to our second class of the day in college which also starts tomorrow.

Now I see this "thx for funding the terrorists" bull as some replies on here. Question is, don't you? If you drive, you fund. Until we get our own gas reserves, or tree hugging a holes get off their butts and let us pipe out our own reserves, we will continue to play slave to the ARAB oil companies.

I see people talking about getting a fusion or 500 for ~25,000$ rather than the expedition. What you have to see sirs, is value. There is more than market value. There is user appreciation. That is the fact that this car (with its larger size, and much higher capabilities) is better than paying 3,000$ more for less. And it works alot like Air conditioners. Why pay for an 18 SER AC when that AC would have to to run for 12 years to pay off its difference in electric bills. Why pay for a fusion when (by my calculations) it would take a little over 4 years to recoup the costs in gas bills. Not to mention you also have to pay nearly $100 more in insurance every 6 months because its a new car.

There's alot of reasons why we HAD to get the SUV instead of the car. They build them for a reason, and that's the fact that there is a need for them. Out here in our area, being 15 miles from a small town (Chattahoochee), 25 miles from a medium town (Bainbridge), and 40 miles for a large town (Tallahassee), you need a bigger vehicle to get you around safely. You also need a big vehicle to do the utility work you need. You don't pay a money hungry company to ship you supplies 40 miles down the road, they charge near 100$ for that. You get your flatbed trailer, and you tow it home yourself.

Also to the guy that said get a car to be safer to others. All I can say is that I'm a safe driver. Never even had a fender bender. Anyone that's driven a bronco knows there ain't much difference between driving the two. In fact, driving a Bronco has made me a safer driver. All my cousins that grew up with these little cars that can weave in and out of traffic are the speed demons. People think that since the car is more maneuverable, they can just drive around as they please. I drive 45 on the main road, 58 on the highway, and 70 on the interstate. That's it, and that's all it ever will be. Driving 85 on the interstate is unnerving to ever do that again (I hate Atlanta). So all I can say is, that if there is a crash, you were probably in the wrong, and you better pray that it wasn't the last mistake you'd ever get the chance to make. I won't be killed by some drunk a hole going 75 in his car in a 45 zone. You can drive your Focus and get creamed by chance happenings if you want, but I'm not that stupid.


And to the guy I quoted, I looked up our Broncos invoice sheet, and it is indeed a Mach 350 audio system. But I also vaguely remember (I was extremely young) that dad might have had that put in special. I'd have to ask when I get the chance.

EDIT: I see here that rather than the Visteon MACH system, it is using the Visteon CD6 system (http://www.visteon.com/products/automotive/cd6_music.shtml). So what it uses for an amp I can't tell, I do know though that you can hear the amps cooling fan in the vehicle when the radio is on.
 

heymrdj

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Sitting here in the computer lab waiting for College Algebra to start. Bought the truckthis morning and its getting gas and detailed right now. Got some Ventvisors on order to pick up tomorrow morning when I come in for classes. Anyways I'm picking it up at 3pm today after this final class. I'll give yall a review if ya want it :p

Peace
 

davestar

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Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Truly honored ^_^ Seriously, no one has ever given a crap about what I did besides my parents :p

Money spent on fuel- I can handle it
Isurance- $50 less than the 2007 Ford Five Hundred I was going to get
Initial cost- will be less than the Five Hundred and I'm focusing on completing my own college run right now. I have 6 years to go through.
Environmental costs- I am not arrogant to believe someone as small as us makes any difference when a normal volcano emits millions of tons of CO2 every time one goes off.

As for the bread, it doesn't matter :p I make my own ^_^

the real arrogance is distorting/ignoring the facts about volcano emissions.

Scientists have calculated that volcanoes emit between about 130-230 million tonnes (145-255 million tons) of CO2 into the atmosphere every year (Gerlach, 1999, 1991). This estimate includes both subaerial and submarine volcanoes, about in equal amounts. Emissions of CO2 by human activities, including fossil fuel burning, cement production, and gas flaring, amount to about 27 billion tonnes per year (30 billion tons) [ ( Marland, et al., 2006) - The reference gives the amount of released carbon (C), rather than CO2, through 2003.]. Human activities release more than 130 times the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes--the equivalent of more than 8,000 additional volcanoes like Kilauea (Kilauea emits about 3.3 million tonnes/year)! (Gerlach et. al., 2002)

Source

sure, your Expedition doesn't emit as much CO2 as a volcano, but since so many people share your arrogant viewpoint, humans greatly outpace volcano emmisions.

I will have my vehicle of my choosing regardless of what is economical or not... its my FREEDOM of choice to do so.

and since when is chosing to do a SMART, RESPONSIBLE thing impinging on your freedom??? so many jump to the "defending my freedom" or "exercising my freedoms" arguments that i don't think people understand what freedom really is.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: eits
gas is $3.30+ in most places...

hmm... sounds like a very wise decision to buy a ford excessi-... i mean expedition.

:roll:

What would you suggest then? A practical Toyota...well then I guess he could get the Tundra....OH WAIT.

Guess what guys...Toyota does not care about the environment, they care about money and they care very astutely.
 

heymrdj

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: eits
gas is $3.30+ in most places...

hmm... sounds like a very wise decision to buy a ford excessi-... i mean expedition.

:roll:

What would you suggest then? A practical Toyota...well then I guess he could get the Tundra....OH WAIT.

Guess what guys...Toyota does not care about the environment, they care about money and they care very astutely.

You're exactly right. Even Honda is just about profits. You think if it wasn't for the dumdrum treehuggers paying 40 grand on a car who's size is worth 10 grand that Honda would still produce it? Of course not, that wouldn't keep them in business. When hybrids cost the same or less as gasoline/diesel vehicles, then I'll consider it. But os far their price premium has yet to offset their tremendous markup.

 

LS20

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I dont care about how much you have to spend for gas mileage, or the "carbon footprint" from your car

big honking expedition trucks are ugly. theyre big. people cant see past them (to scan road conditions ahead)....cant see past them when both are pulling out of a parking lot. cant see the incoming traffic if both are in left-turn lanes. they crowd up parking spaces. their higher-mounted lights blind other drivers in the same and opposite directions.

fck your big trucks if you dont need it
 

Rogodin2

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Your SUV isn't going return your investment in 2 years.

Why do you thing GM and Ford are going down the shitter? Your posts make manifest your youth and lack of real-life experience.

Since you've already pulled the trigger on an unnecessarily HUGE chunk of ferous oxide you don't need anyone to guide your purchase.

So-goodluck selling such an automobile 3 years from now!

Rogo
 

heymrdj

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Apparently you can't either read, or you're senile. If you read the posts above you'll see we have no plan on getting rid of it in three years. Like all the other vehicles before him, he will be ran till it becomes more expensive to repair him than replace him.

And no one said the room wouldn't be needed. When I have to use it for a church outing it will be needed. It was also needed yesterday (folded down the 2nd and third row) to haul supply materials.
 

mercanucaribe

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I can't believe someone's brother posted that we need to tap our own oil reserves, and so on.

I work in the oil industry, and I can tell you that's BS. The amount of oil under US territory is a small fraction of what is under the Middle East. Drilling the ANWR and other protected sites will not even make a dent in dependence on foreign oil, but they will make make some nice Christmas bonuses for oil executives.
 

Rogodin2

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Merc

The US oil production peaked a few decades ago, as you seem to know.

heymrdj

When gas is $8.00pg you won't be able to sell it, regardless of whether or not you need it.

I'm the only one allowed to use ad hominem on these forums. You're not a wanker, I appologize.

Rogo

 

Rogodin2

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At Ford, trucks and SUVs -- the backbone of the company's sales and profits -- struggled through September. Sales of F-Series pickup trucks plunged 30 percent. Sales of Ford's large SUVs, including the Ford Explorer and Expedition and the Lincoln Navigator, sank by more than 55 percent each. At GM, overall sales of trucks, minivans and SUVs dropped 30 percent. Truck, SUV and minivan sales also fell at Toyota and Honda, as well as at Chrysler.

Washington Post Article.

Any response from the man that proposes he's purchasing an automobile that will some how hold or increase in retail value? hehe

If you do have some amazing numbers please post them lad.

Rogo
 

buck

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Id rather spend my money on something better than excessive Gasoline.
That being said, nice ride :).
 

heymrdj

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Originally posted by: Rogodin2
At Ford, trucks and SUVs -- the backbone of the company's sales and profits -- struggled through September. Sales of F-Series pickup trucks plunged 30 percent. Sales of Ford's large SUVs, including the Ford Explorer and Expedition and the Lincoln Navigator, sank by more than 55 percent each. At GM, overall sales of trucks, minivans and SUVs dropped 30 percent. Truck, SUV and minivan sales also fell at Toyota and Honda, as well as at Chrysler.

Washington Post Article.

Any response from the man that proposes he's purchasing an automobile that will some how hold or increase in retail value? hehe

If you do have some amazing numbers please post them lad.

Rogo

Again your talking trade. And again I say STFU. I don't trade I use. You can't understand long lasting value apparently because you trade vehicles every other year. It will be used until it clunks, its future value is of no interest to me. When it is too old it will be scrapped and replaced by a new vehicle.

BTW this fuel thing isn't that bad. Driven it 170 miles and its not even down to 3/4 tank yet. Its used 5 gallons of fuel for that. I wish my lawnmower got that good a mileage :p. It takes 3.5 gallons to rune it for four hours to cut the lawn.
 

Rogodin2

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Again your talking trade. And again I say STFU. I don't trade I use

I'm talking about resale value NOT TRADE.

Long lasting value!!?? ROLF

Your piece of iron doesn't have any long lasting value!

You're beyond rational dialog.

This is completely pathetic.

Rogo
 

MegaVovaN

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^^ You don't drive a lawnmower 170 miles :)

Rogo probably means that you'll have to sell it because you won't be able to afford gas at $9/gallon.
But then again he didn't read the part where you said you can afford fuel. I assume you'll afford it even if it goes to $9/gallon, so enjoy the new ride.

Just remember to be kind to cyclists, more and more people ditch even econoboxes and live car-free using bicycles for everything, from commuting to touring, renting or borrowing a car for occasional need (haul carpet from store).
/ bikeforums.net /
 

sniperruff

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he loves the car. he can afford the gas. why are people trying to impose their own opinions on other people?