So the U of M Point System

[todpod]

Its based on the number of points up to 150, right? So do they start with the top point getters and work there way down from there, or not.

Their web site doesn't really say that, but if that's how it works I don't have much of a problem with it

 

[Orsorum]

Wha?

 

[Zugzwang152]

wtf are you talking about.

 

[todpod]

For admission to the University, thats what all the affirmitiv action case before the supreme court is about.

 

[Chaotic42]

The sticking point is that being a racial minority (in other words non-white) is worth 20 points. 2 identically qualified students, one hispanic, and one white, would have very different scores.

That's racism. Pure and simple. To add insult to injury, being a minority is almost twice as good as having a perfect SAT score, according to the university.

 

[todpod]

Chaotic, I understand what your saying, and agreed for the most point. What I am wondering is after the give the 20 points, do they take the top point getters irregardless of race?

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: todpod
Chaotic, I understand what your saying, and agreed for the most point. What I am wondering is after the give the 20 points, do they take the top point getters irregardless of race?

From my understanding, yes. If you have a 110, you get in before someone with a 100.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: todpod
Chaotic, I understand what your saying, and agreed for the most point. What I am wondering is after the give the 20 points, do they take the top point getters irregardless of race?

Regardless.

 

[kornermi]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
The sticking point is that being a racial minority (in other words non-white) is worth 20 points. 2 identically qualified students, one hispanic, and one white, would have very different scores.

That's racism. Pure and simple. To add insult to injury, being a minority is almost twice as good as having a perfect SAT score, according to the university.

1. Asian males are not qualified for that minority status even though they are numerical minority in general population. So, it's not just "non-white".
2. If you entirely object to the idea of affirmative action, yes, this is reverse-racism. End of discussion.
3. If you recognize a certain merit of affirmative action, you may want to consider this in the context of point system in general, including students from geographically less represented area or students from alumni family. U of M awards points to students from upper Michigan area, which is overwelmingly white, and it also gives points to alumni's children, who are also mostly white so far. So, this selective criticism is very politically motivated.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: kornermi
1. Asian males are not qualified for that minority status even though they are numerical minority in general population. So, it's not just "non-white".

Hmm, interesting.


2. If you entirely object to the idea of affirmative action, yes, this is reverse-racism. End of discussion.


Reverse racism? I know what you mean, but I hate that term.


3. If you recognize a certain merit of affirmative action, you may want to consider this in the context of point system in general, including students from geographically less represented area or students from alumni family. U of M awards points to students from upper Michigan area, which is overwelmingly white, and it also gives points to alumni's children, who are also mostly white so far. So, this selective criticism is very politically motivated.

Now, I don't know a whole lot about the way universities work, but I would think that if a school gets funded by its state, it would pick kids from its state. I don't know why they would pick kids from the northern part specifically, unless the school is in the northern part of the state.

Catering to alumni is a joke. Don't award any points for anything not directly related to scholastic achivement. Period.