So STEAM says an update to CS:S is two weeks away

[HeroOfPellinor]

Includes some radar changes and DE_Train revamp, etc.

But, MAN, I'm hoping for some gameplay tweaks.

#1. Freaking flashbangs. I'm all for strategic elements, but, come on, you stand there helpless for 5-6 seconds for doing nothing other than looking where you're supposed to. Make the things cost more, make the blindness less absolute, or something because getting gatted while you can't see anything is not fun.

#2. Headshots. Do they need to comprise 50% of all deaths each round?

 

[Xyclone]

I seriously doubt those 2 things will change anytime ever in CS:S, so... get used to them?

 

[PingSpike]

Yeah, I don't think they're going to change either of those ever. Just the way that game is.

 

[rstrohkirch]

how long have you been playing cs?

 

[40Hands]

They will not change the way flash bangs work. As for the head shots, play on a server with a higher tic rate (100). If the server does not advertise a 100 tic rate, it's most likely 66 or 33.

 

[rstrohkirch]

net_graph will show you the amount of incoming packets

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: rstrohkirch
how long have you been playing cs?

Mostly since 1.4. Something changed in 1.5, I believe, that made headshots too common. I know they fixed the crouching bug at that time, but they messed something else up. I checked my stats on my main server and over 40% of my own kills are headshots and I never aim for the head.

 

[Cutterhead]

You can always search out some servers where flashbangs are disabled. Makes for much better gameplay IMO. Boss-gamers.com runs a few of them.

 

[Sniper82]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: rstrohkirch
how long have you been playing cs?

Mostly since 1.4. Something changed in 1.5, I believe, that made headshots too common. I know they fixed the crouching bug at that time, but they messed something else up. I checked my stats on my main server and over 40% of my own kills are headshots and I never aim for the head.

Well there is nothing wrong with headshots IMO. Bullets just spray some even if your bursting . Firing single shots are a bit more accurate but after 2-3 shots they start to spray. If you aimed in the chest with AK(or any other rifle) by the time the 3rd shot goes off your aiming in the head area. What guns do you use most the time?

I really don't see how one could make headshots less common. They could disable it but then the game wouldn't be fun anymore. There is nothing like aiming at the head from across a map and getting someone.

 

[Sforsyth]

If anything should be changed it should be the AWP to make less damage.

 

[Ika]

If you think about it, headshots do at least 2 times the damage, so the fact that 40% of your kills are headshots isn't too unusual.

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: Sforsyth
If anything should be changed it should be the AWP to make less damage.

They should make you move slower with the awp, even if you switched to your knife or pistol or nade, which would make it fair.

 

[jfall]

You just got to get good at judging when a flashbang is going to be thrown and quickly looking the other way when you see one coming

 

[Running]

wait since 1.4? you mean in source or regular cs?

 

[Sforsyth]

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: Sforsyth
If anything should be changed it should be the AWP to make less damage.

They should make you move slower with the awp, even if you switched to your knife or pistol or nade, which would make it fair.

Yeah or making reloading take way longer like 3 or 4 times as long I bet then the AWP whores would stop that BS.

 

[duragezic]

I've played CS original on and off starting around beta 2. I quit playing it sometime after 1.0 or 1.1 or so when HL2/CS:S was out. I haven't touched the original since. I've also played many many other FPS games with locational damage. Yet CS:S easily has headshots more common than any other game. I don't even aim for the head and I get them like mad. So.. yes I guess it's hard to balance something like that given the semi-realistic gameplay and recoil/spread of weapons, but man it just seems way too often.

But anyway, they need to bring back cs_backalley. Hella fun to be had there.

Or maybe I just need to play any damn game period. I've been slacking heavily on gaming lately. College will be starting up again soon, so I probably will pick up gaming more. Weird how with a 8-5 job for 8 months and a new computer I barely touch my games, yet in school when I should study I game way more.

 

[Trevelyan]

Personally I think the most important gameplay tweak they can do is remove/gimp the AWP and autosniper.

There's no reason for there to be any sniper except the scout.

 

[Xyclone]

Well, CS (the original) was criticized for making the guns too inaccurate, it was unrealistic. CS:S fixed that.

 

[0roo0roo]

yup, look away from flashbangs. u can still nade in general direction or spray while blind

 

[rstrohkirch]

Originally posted by: Xyclone
Well, CS (the original) was criticized for making the guns too inaccurate, it was unrealistic. CS:S fixed that.

None of the guns in the game are realistic
They take the cheap ass way of imposing "recoil", simply having the projectile follow a random(physically impossible) path a certain percentage away from the target

This even happens for "most" of the guns in the game on the very first shot, just with a smaller variable

 

[rstrohkirch]

Originally posted by: duragezic
I've played CS original on and off starting around beta 2. I quit playing it sometime after 1.0 or 1.1 or so when HL2/CS:S was out. I haven't touched the original since. I've also played many many other FPS games with locational damage. Yet CS:S easily has headshots more common than any other game. I don't even aim for the head and I get them like mad. So.. yes I guess it's hard to balance something like that given the semi-realistic gameplay and recoil/spread of weapons, but man it just seems way too often.

But anyway, they need to bring back cs_backalley. Hella fun to be had there.

Or maybe I just need to play any damn game period. I've been slacking heavily on gaming lately. College will be starting up again soon, so I probably will pick up gaming more. Weird how with a 8-5 job for 8 months and a new computer I barely touch my games, yet in school when I should study I game way more.

There was a pretty nice backalley remake called cs_backalley2 IIRC

The other ones I've seen - cs_backalley_2005 and cs_backalley_bracket aren't nearly as good

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: Sforsyth

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: Sforsyth
If anything should be changed it should be the AWP to make less damage.

They should make you move slower with the awp, even if you switched to your knife or pistol or nade, which would make it fair.

Yeah or making reloading take way longer like 3 or 4 times as long I bet then the AWP whores would stop that BS.

Why? Because you're bad at the game? It's strange how most of the people who bitch and moan about the AWP are newbie players, people who never even thought about competetive play, or just plain failed at it.

 

[Sforsyth]

Originally posted by: cobalt

Originally posted by: Sforsyth

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: Sforsyth
If anything should be changed it should be the AWP to make less damage.

They should make you move slower with the awp, even if you switched to your knife or pistol or nade, which would make it fair.

Yeah or making reloading take way longer like 3 or 4 times as long I bet then the AWP whores would stop that BS.

Why? Because you're bad at the game? It's strange how most of the people who bitch and moan about the AWP are newbie players, people who never even thought about competetive play, or just plain failed at it.

I've been playing about a year now I'm not the best at it but I hate getting taken out with the AWP I tend to find servers that limit the AWP to 1 per team or none at all.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Sforsyth
I've been playing about a year now I'm not the best at it but I hate getting taken out with the AWP I tend to find servers that limit the AWP to 1 per team or none at all.

Yeah, all the public "Pro" servers I play on allow 1 per team, which I feel is a fine solution.