So should the GOP just give up the values platform altogether? Newly elected young republicans president steps down...

Phokus

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http://www.news-tribune.net/br...l_story_219210228.html

The chairman of the Clark County Republican Party, who last month was elected president of the Young Republican National Federation, has resigned both posts, apparently in the wake of a criminal investigation.

On Tuesday, Glenn Murphy Jr. e-mailed media a letter announcing his resignation from both positions, citing an unexpected business opportunity that would prohibit him from holding a partisan political office.

However, on Friday the Clark County Sheriff?s Department began investigating Murphy for alleged criminal deviate conduct ? potentially a class B felony ? after speaking with a 22-year-old man who claims that on July 31, Murphy performed an unwanted sex act on him while the man slept in a relative?s Jeffersonville home.

Murphy, a 33-year-old Utica resident, has not been arrested nor has he been charged with a crime. Such police reports are generally confidential, but a copy of it has been posted on a politically focused Internet site and another was provided to a reporter with The Evening News and The Tribune on Tuesday evening.

Larry Wilder, Murphy?s attorney, said Murphy is cooperating with police and Prosecutor Steve Stewart. Wilder said Murphy contends the sex act was consensual.

A reporter was unable to reach Stewart on Tuesday evening.

For more information read Wednesday?s The Evening News and The Tribune.

Here's the more lurid details:

In a shocking police report filed by the Clark Co. Sheriff's office, Murphy is accused of sexually assaulting another man on July 29, 2007, while he lay sleeping in his bed. The alleged assault of the 22-year-old man took place in the Jeffersonville, Indiana home of his sister following a Young Republican party in which both Murphy and the 22-year-old man had been in attendance. The victim's sister had urged both men to spend the night at her home because of the amount of alcohol the two had consumed during the party. The victim awoke in the morning to find Murphy performing oral sex on him according to the report. When the victim asked Murphy what he was doing, he responded: "He was holding his dick with one hand and sucking my dick with his mouth." The victim then pushed Murphy away, gathered his personal belongings and left. Murphy was later confronted with the charges by the victim's sister according to the report. The sister says Murphy admitted to her that he performed the sex act on her brother. Taking Down Words reports Murphy is being charged with criminal deviate conduct, a Class B felony. The police report also notes that Murphy was accused of committing a very similar act on another man back in 1998. It is unclear why Murphy was not prosecuted for the 1998 incident.

http://advanceindiana.blogspot...ising-indiana-gop.html

But seriously, at best, the top GOP presidential hopefuls have have multiple marriages, affairs, and one is even a cross dresser, and at worst we have GOP congressmen having inappropriate contact with underage boys, having relationships with prostitutes, soliciting undercover officers to GIVE and PAY FOR oral sex to other men, and now the president of the young republicans being accused of raping another man orally. W - T - F. How can the GOP still maintain the 'values' platform?

I mean sh*t, Ron Paul would at least make half the stuff these men have been accused of completely legal.

 

Moonbeam

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That's my GOP. The authoritarian party will always pick up these repressed sicko, because they like to have power and authority to hide behind. The GOP is a second Catholic Church.
 

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Originally posted by: Phokus


But seriously, at best, the top GOP presidential hopefuls have have multiple marriages, affairs, and one is even a cross dresser, and at worst we have GOP congressmen having inappropriate contact with underage boys, having relationships with prostitutes, soliciting undercover officers to GIVE and PAY FOR oral sex to other men, and now the president of the young republicans being accused of raping another man orally. W - T - F. How can the GOP still maintain the 'values' platform?

I mean sh*t, Ron Paul would at least make half the stuff these men have been accused of completely legal.

Ok, Granted, this is messed up and I am not condoning it in any way.

that being said, republicans are not the only ones who do these kinds of things...Lets stop trying to make it party lines and just accept that some people in this world are a little messed up.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: BigRig04
Originally posted by: Phokus


But seriously, at best, the top GOP presidential hopefuls have have multiple marriages, affairs, and one is even a cross dresser, and at worst we have GOP congressmen having inappropriate contact with underage boys, having relationships with prostitutes, soliciting undercover officers to GIVE and PAY FOR oral sex to other men, and now the president of the young republicans being accused of raping another man orally. W - T - F. How can the GOP still maintain the 'values' platform?

I mean sh*t, Ron Paul would at least make half the stuff these men have been accused of completely legal.

Ok, Granted, this is messed up and I am not condoning it in any way.

that being said, republicans are not the only ones who do these kinds of things...Lets stop trying to make it party lines and just accept that some people in this world are a little messed up.

I wonder how the response would be if a County level young democrat person was caught doing something. Probably be ignored by those like the OP. :shrug:

BTW, I hope this guy is convicted if he is guilty.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: BigRig04
Originally posted by: Phokus


But seriously, at best, the top GOP presidential hopefuls have have multiple marriages, affairs, and one is even a cross dresser, and at worst we have GOP congressmen having inappropriate contact with underage boys, having relationships with prostitutes, soliciting undercover officers to GIVE and PAY FOR oral sex to other men, and now the president of the young republicans being accused of raping another man orally. W - T - F. How can the GOP still maintain the 'values' platform?

I mean sh*t, Ron Paul would at least make half the stuff these men have been accused of completely legal.

Ok, Granted, this is messed up and I am not condoning it in any way.

that being said, republicans are not the only ones who do these kinds of things...Lets stop trying to make it party lines and just accept that some people in this world are a little messed up.

Unfortunately, the when you claim the moral high ground on every issue and bash others as the party of death and homos you leave yourself exposed to cries of "hypocrite!" when your skeletons come out of the closet.

This is the issue that Republicans are going to continue to face. It's really amazing how many sexual deviants are in the party. They should reinvent themselves - "The New and Improved Republican Party, now with 100% less self-loathing!"

 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: BigRig04
Originally posted by: Phokus


But seriously, at best, the top GOP presidential hopefuls have have multiple marriages, affairs, and one is even a cross dresser, and at worst we have GOP congressmen having inappropriate contact with underage boys, having relationships with prostitutes, soliciting undercover officers to GIVE and PAY FOR oral sex to other men, and now the president of the young republicans being accused of raping another man orally. W - T - F. How can the GOP still maintain the 'values' platform?

I mean sh*t, Ron Paul would at least make half the stuff these men have been accused of completely legal.

Ok, Granted, this is messed up and I am not condoning it in any way.

that being said, republicans are not the only ones who do these kinds of things...Lets stop trying to make it party lines and just accept that some people in this world are a little messed up.

I think that the point that the OP was making and the one that is continually missed by those that lean right or flat out support the GOP is simply.....

ALL people have skeletons. Knowing this fact however and the likelyhood of any public official being able to bury their skeleton deep enough to not be found logically should mean that the Repubs should put down the "morally superior" trumpet that they like to play loudly and just try to run on the merits of their positions on topics that matter.
 

SilthDraeth

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Screwed up. I would say this is bad for the GOP if they actually picked people and said, hey you have our values, you belong to our party. But no, no political party appoints people to their party. People go and register into that party, so you have to accepted the damned with the good. There is no getting around it.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I wonder how the response would be if a County level young democrat person was caught doing something.

Probably be ignored by those like the OP. :shrug:

Not even a good dodge and spin, you're still really rusty.

I don't see Democrats taunting this Morality crap with giant churches like Ted Haggard in Colorado.

Like Moonie said, the GOP acts as if it is the American version of The Vatican.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: BigRig04
Originally posted by: Phokus


But seriously, at best, the top GOP presidential hopefuls have have multiple marriages, affairs, and one is even a cross dresser, and at worst we have GOP congressmen having inappropriate contact with underage boys, having relationships with prostitutes, soliciting undercover officers to GIVE and PAY FOR oral sex to other men, and now the president of the young republicans being accused of raping another man orally. W - T - F. How can the GOP still maintain the 'values' platform?

I mean sh*t, Ron Paul would at least make half the stuff these men have been accused of completely legal.

Ok, Granted, this is messed up and I am not condoning it in any way.

that being said, republicans are not the only ones who do these kinds of things...Lets stop trying to make it party lines and just accept that some people in this world are a little messed up.

Unfortunately, the when you claim the moral high ground on every issue and bash others as the party of death and homos you leave yourself exposed to cries of "hypocrite!" when your skeletons come out of the closet.

This is the issue that Republicans are going to continue to face. It's really amazing how many sexual deviants are in the party. They should reinvent themselves - "The New and Improved Republican Party, now with 100% less self-loathing!"

That is grand. I hear democrats constantly berating us with morality for funding social projects. But I guess taking the moral high ground is a republican only stance lol.

 

Butterbean

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Any large group will have its pervs. Republicans as a whole still don't support instituting perv agendas though - like Democrats do (and support Al Qaeda while they are at it). Dems complaints (and they secretly love these stories anyway) about Republican pervs without shooting thermselves in the foot (and those feert are getting pretty dore these days) because they are the party of pervs. A normal person couldn't vote for them frankly - men voting for Dems should especially be ashamed.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Any large group will have its pervs. Republicans as a whole still don't support instituting perv agendas though - like Democrats do (and support Al Qaeda while they are at it). Dems complaints (and they secretly love these stories anyway) about Republican pervs without shooting thermselves in the foot (and those feert are getting pretty dore these days) because they are the party of pervs. A normal person couldn't vote for them frankly - men voting for Dems should especially be ashamed.

Again, more gay bashing from Butterbean. Stop hating yourself man, and just come out of that closet already!
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Genx87

That is grand. I hear democrats constantly berating us with morality for funding social projects. But I guess taking the moral high ground is a republican only stance lol.

:laugh: You mean FAKING the moral high ground is a republican only stance. :laugh:
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Any large group will have its pervs. Republicans as a whole still don't support instituting perv agendas though - like Democrats do (and support Al Qaeda while they are at it). Dems complaints (and they secretly love these stories anyway) about Republican pervs without shooting thermselves in the foot (and those feert are getting pretty dore these days) because they are the party of pervs. A normal person couldn't vote for them frankly - men voting for Dems should especially be ashamed.

Again, more gay bashing from Butterbean. Stop hating yourself man, and just come out of that closet already!

Another dull, futile non reply from the normalphobes.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Any large group will have its pervs. Republicans as a whole still don't support instituting perv agendas though - like Democrats do (and support Al Qaeda while they are at it). Dems complaints (and they secretly love these stories anyway) about Republican pervs without shooting thermselves in the foot (and those feert are getting pretty dore these days) because they are the party of pervs. A normal person couldn't vote for them frankly - men voting for Dems should especially be ashamed.

Again, more gay bashing from Butterbean. Stop hating yourself man, and just come out of that closet already!

Yea its pretty obvious Butterbean is still coming to grips with himself being gay. Seems like a lot of Gay Republicans seem to bash gays until they get ?caught?.
 

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Any large group will have its pervs. Republicans as a whole still don't support instituting perv agendas though - like Democrats do (and support Al Qaeda while they are at it). Dems complaints (and they secretly love these stories anyway) about Republican pervs without shooting thermselves in the foot (and those feert are getting pretty dore these days) because they are the party of pervs. A normal person couldn't vote for them frankly - men voting for Dems should especially be ashamed.

Again, more gay bashing from Butterbean. Stop hating yourself man, and just come out of that closet already!

Hi, I'm Butterbean. I absolutely hate anyone in the world who isn't exactly like me because thats not normal. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong and should probably be gotten rid of somehow.

fixed

 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: BigRig04
Originally posted by: Phokus


But seriously, at best, the top GOP presidential hopefuls have have multiple marriages, affairs, and one is even a cross dresser, and at worst we have GOP congressmen having inappropriate contact with underage boys, having relationships with prostitutes, soliciting undercover officers to GIVE and PAY FOR oral sex to other men, and now the president of the young republicans being accused of raping another man orally. W - T - F. How can the GOP still maintain the 'values' platform?

I mean sh*t, Ron Paul would at least make half the stuff these men have been accused of completely legal.

Ok, Granted, this is messed up and I am not condoning it in any way.

that being said, republicans are not the only ones who do these kinds of things...Lets stop trying to make it party lines and just accept that some people in this world are a little messed up.

Unfortunately, the when you claim the moral high ground on every issue and bash others as the party of death and homos you leave yourself exposed to cries of "hypocrite!" when your skeletons come out of the closet.

This is the issue that Republicans are going to continue to face. It's really amazing how many sexual deviants are in the party. They should reinvent themselves - "The New and Improved Republican Party, now with 100% less self-loathing!"

That is grand. I hear democrats constantly berating us with morality for funding social projects. But I guess taking the moral high ground is a republican only stance lol.

No taking the moral high ground while standing in quicksand and offering the nearest cop $20 to blow him is the new Republican MO.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87

That is grand. I hear democrats constantly berating us with morality for funding social projects. But I guess taking the moral high ground is a republican only stance lol.

:laugh: You mean FAKING the moral high ground is a republican only stance. :laugh:

We break some bad eggs, and toss them out.

Whatever happened to cold cash Jefferson? Was that bad egg thrown out or protected? Seems we don?t treat our own equality, some of us have higher standards.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87

That is grand. I hear democrats constantly berating us with morality for funding social projects. But I guess taking the moral high ground is a republican only stance lol.

:laugh: You mean FAKING the moral high ground is a republican only stance. :laugh:

We break some bad eggs, and toss them out.

Whatever happened to cold cash Jefferson? Was that bad egg thrown out or protected? Seems we don?t treat our own equality, some of us have higher standards.

Hmm you have one example, yet the R's have almost a bakers dozen just in the last couple years, Ted Stevens is the most recent example.

High standards indeed.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Any large group will have its pervs. Republicans as a whole still don't support instituting perv agendas though - like Democrats do (and support Al Qaeda while they are at it). Dems complaints (and they secretly love these stories anyway) about Republican pervs without shooting thermselves in the foot (and those feert are getting pretty dore these days) because they are the party of pervs. A normal person couldn't vote for them frankly - men voting for Dems should especially be ashamed.

Again, more gay bashing from Butterbean. Stop hating yourself man, and just come out of that closet already!

Yea its pretty obvious Butterbean is still coming to grips with himself being gay. Seems like a lot of Gay Republicans seem to bash gays until they get ?caught?.

QFT, embrace your sexuality Butterballs.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87

That is grand. I hear democrats constantly berating us with morality for funding social projects. But I guess taking the moral high ground is a republican only stance lol.

:laugh: You mean FAKING the moral high ground is a republican only stance. :laugh:

We break some bad eggs, and toss them out.

Whatever happened to cold cash Jefferson? Was that bad egg thrown out or protected? Seems we don?t treat our own equality, some of us have higher standards.

Did you ever see me make any excuse for Jefferson? Nope. I think anybody who violates the public trust is the lowest form of life on the planet.

But if this is going to degrade to "he did it too", then your side will lose I think. Take Newt, pursuing Clinton for extramarital affairs while doing the same thing at the same time he was busting Clintons chops for it.

 

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Any large group will have its pervs. Republicans as a whole still don't support instituting perv agendas though - like Democrats do (and support Al Qaeda while they are at it). Dems complaints (and they secretly love these stories anyway) about Republican pervs without shooting thermselves in the foot (and those feert are getting pretty dore these days) because they are the party of pervs. A normal person couldn't vote for them frankly - men voting for Dems should especially be ashamed.

Again, more gay bashing from Butterbean. Stop hating yourself man, and just come out of that closet already!

Another dull, futile non reply from the normalphobes.

Actually you are the one who is queer. You are raising to an art form an ancient bigotry the rational world is slowly leaving behind. You're an extreme exponent of a dying point of view. That probably accounts for your fanaticism. Kind of the cornered rat syndrome.

Remember, folks, you can tell a bigot, but you can't tell him much.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: BigRig04
Originally posted by: Phokus


But seriously, at best, the top GOP presidential hopefuls have have multiple marriages, affairs, and one is even a cross dresser, and at worst we have GOP congressmen having inappropriate contact with underage boys, having relationships with prostitutes, soliciting undercover officers to GIVE and PAY FOR oral sex to other men, and now the president of the young republicans being accused of raping another man orally. W - T - F. How can the GOP still maintain the 'values' platform?

I mean sh*t, Ron Paul would at least make half the stuff these men have been accused of completely legal.

Ok, Granted, this is messed up and I am not condoning it in any way.

that being said, republicans are not the only ones who do these kinds of things...Lets stop trying to make it party lines and just accept that some people in this world are a little messed up.


no...these incidents seem to clearly favor republican candidates, and usually the most fundamental, values-oriented of the bunch. It seems that hiding behind a mask of value-based conduct relieves them of the unbearbale guilt they face daily having desires that they feel are evil and unnacceptable.
 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Any large group will have its pervs. Republicans as a whole still don't support instituting perv agendas though - like Democrats do (and support Al Qaeda while they are at it). Dems complaints (and they secretly love these stories anyway) about Republican pervs without shooting thermselves in the foot (and those feert are getting pretty dore these days) because they are the party of pervs. A normal person couldn't vote for them frankly - men voting for Dems should especially be ashamed.

Again, more gay bashing from Butterbean. Stop hating yourself man, and just come out of that closet already!

Another dull, futile non reply from the normalphobes.

Actually you are the one who is queer. You are raising to an art form an ancient bigotry the rational world is slowly leaving behind. You're an extreme exponent of a dying point of view. That probably accounts for your fanaticism. Kind of the cornered rat syndrome.

Remember, folks, you can tell a bigot, but you can't tell him much.

Who are the bigots and hypocrits here?

Would it be those who defend homosexuals if they are Dems, but crucify them if they are Repub?

And, of course, black people who are Repubs are really just *oreos*, aren't they?

This is stupid, some Young Repub dude allegedly commits a crime, so it's like you know, the whole Repub party and anybody who ever voted for a Repub politition is a criminal devient and bigoted hypocrit.

Fern
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Any large group will have its pervs. Republicans as a whole still don't support instituting perv agendas though - like Democrats do (and support Al Qaeda while they are at it). Dems complaints (and they secretly love these stories anyway) about Republican pervs without shooting thermselves in the foot (and those feert are getting pretty dore these days) because they are the party of pervs. A normal person couldn't vote for them frankly - men voting for Dems should especially be ashamed.

Again, more gay bashing from Butterbean. Stop hating yourself man, and just come out of that closet already!

Another dull, futile non reply from the normalphobes.

Actually you are the one who is queer. You are raising to an art form an ancient bigotry the rational world is slowly leaving behind. You're an extreme exponent of a dying point of view. That probably accounts for your fanaticism. Kind of the cornered rat syndrome.

Remember, folks, you can tell a bigot, but you can't tell him much.

Who are the bigots and hypocrits here?

Would it be those who defend homosexuals if they are Dems, but crucify them if they are Repub?

And, of course, black people who are Repubs are really just *oreos*, aren't they?

This is stupid, some Young Repub dude allegedly commits a crime, so it's like you know, the whole Repub party and anybody who ever voted for a Repub politition is a criminal devient and bigoted hypocrit.

Fern

I dunno Fern, this seems pretty clear cut.

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Homosexuality is a deviant "behavior" and not a benign characteristic. The homosexual agenda tries to force people to see a mishappen identity as "natural". At least this time they weren't going after kids - their usual main target.

Calling homosexuals deviant and malignant constitutes a bigot in today's world, even if it didn't only 30 or 40 years ago. In 1800 people weren't bigots if they considered black slaves to be inferior, today you're pretty much an idiot if you have that view. An idiot, and a bigot.