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So, remember how Black Lives Matter was a non-violent, non-looty organization?

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Vic

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That's complete bullshit. Otherwise nobody would ever call the police.




I hope you libs get what you want, no police. And since you are so strongly anti-gun, well, good luck.
I hope someday your ilk stop believing your own self-serving paranoid lies.

BTW, I own guns, like many liberals do. You should keep that in mind.
 
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JEDIYoda

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That's complete bullshit. Otherwise nobody would ever call the police.




I hope you libs get what you want, no police. And since you are so strongly anti-gun, well, good luck.
Gun nutterz will be Gun nutterz!!!
 

TENACIOUS TEEZ

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Most of the BLM protesters are young white adults according to Pew Research. From what I’ve seen (media pics and videos) and read it’s these individuals who are creating the violence.
they want you to think BLM is for Black Lives Matter. It was started during the Obama admin. George Soros money is behind it. There is no one ALIVE that owned slaves. Regardless of what group organization etc, THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO BLM-BURN LOOT MURDER.
GOD gave us all a brain, ask yourself
1. How are these people able to do this?
2. How is ok they burn down businesses?
3. We all have the right to protest' we do not have the right to destroy. So why are they doing it?
4. I challenge all of you to know the differences of
FREEDOM
SOCIALISM
MARXISM
FACISM
COMMUNISM.
 

TENACIOUS TEEZ

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Or, we could address the problems BLM wants addressed and then the opportunists won't have any opportunities, at least until the next thing.
STARBUCK 1979...YOU REALLY SHOULD DO YOUR RESEARCH ON BLM. ITS NOT FOR BLACK LIVES...NOT A PENNY HAS GONE TO HELP BLACK PEOPLE OR THEIR COMMUNITIES.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
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they want you to think BLM is for Black Lives Matter. It was started during the Obama admin. George Soros money is behind it. There is no one ALIVE that owned slaves. Regardless of what group organization etc, THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO BLM-BURN LOOT MURDER.
GOD gave us all a brain, ask yourself
1. How are these people able to do this?
2. How is ok they burn down businesses?
3. We all have the right to protest' we do not have the right to destroy. So why are they doing it?
4. I challenge all of you to know the differences of
FREEDOM
SOCIALISM
MARXISM
FACISM
COMMUNISM.
Your momma would be proud of you!!
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
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STARBUCK 1979...YOU REALLY SHOULD DO YOUR RESEARCH ON BLM. ITS NOT FOR BLACK LIVES...NOT A PENNY HAS GONE TO HELP BLACK PEOPLE OR THEIR COMMUNITIES.
That is so true!! Trump has not send a penny into the black communities or spent any money on making black lives better!! God i just love it when a poser who p[robably works for FOX News shows up spouting nonesense!!
 

jmagg

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If anything sinks Joe, it'll be law and order. If he comes out strong on L&O, and the pillaging of private property as a separate issue than BLM, he'll be doing himself a favor. If he and the party follow the political media wind, not so much. The debates will tell. imo.
 

alien42

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If anything sinks Joe, it'll be law and order. If he comes out strong on L&O, and the pillaging of private property as a separate issue than BLM, he'll be doing himself a favor. If he and the party follow the political media wind, not so much. The debates will tell. imo.
I think Joe needs to promote Law and Justice.
 
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Greenman

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STARBUCK 1979...YOU REALLY SHOULD DO YOUR RESEARCH ON BLM. ITS NOT FOR BLACK LIVES...NOT A PENNY HAS GONE TO HELP BLACK PEOPLE OR THEIR COMMUNITIES.
Quit with the caps lock. If you're going to do nothing but shout I'm going to put you on ignore.
 

HomerJS

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If anything sinks Joe, it'll be law and order. If he comes out strong on L&O, and the pillaging of private property as a separate issue than BLM, he'll be doing himself a favor. If he and the party follow the political media wind, not so much. The debates will tell. imo.
He's already come out against rioting and looting and violence. Joe could go all L&O and point to Bill Barr and his justice department crimes. He could mention Trump is individual #1. He could focus on laws Trump has broken. He could point to Trump's unconstitutional acts like shooting and gassing peaceful protestors in Lafayette Park. He could point out how Trump ignores the #1 terrorist threat in the country, white nationalists.

I would have no problem with that
 

jmagg

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I think Joe needs to promote Law and Justice.
I see, we agree.
He's already come out against rioting and looting and violence. Joe could go all L&O and point to Bill Barr and his justice department crimes. He could mention Trump is individual #1. He could focus on laws Trump has broken. He could point to Trump's unconstitutional acts like shooting and gassing peaceful protestors in Lafayette Park. He could point out how Trump ignores the #1 terrorist threat in the country, white nationalists.

I would have no problem with that
He could, and should do that, face to face (distanced) and off script. Of course he'll need to defend his record as well. Ultimately, I think he should be specific on things affecting the people, and just what his specific responses will be if elected. Not generalizations.
 

ondma

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He's already come out against rioting and looting and violence. Joe could go all L&O and point to Bill Barr and his justice department crimes. He could mention Trump is individual #1. He could focus on laws Trump has broken. He could point to Trump's unconstitutional acts like shooting and gassing peaceful protestors in Lafayette Park. He could point out how Trump ignores the #1 terrorist threat in the country, white nationalists.

I would have no problem with that
Also over riding tax law by executive order and "deferring" the payroll tax.

That said, Biden has spoken well to law and order recently, but he was a bit behind the curve in doing so. He needs to continually hammer this home, and also continue to stress (as he has already done) that he is not in favor of defunding the police. Now Trump is back on fearmongering immigration saying Biden wants to increase it 700% from dangerous countries (middle east?). I am sure this is a distortion, if not an outright lie, but I would like to hear the Biden campaign address it. It probably has something to do with taking in refugees from Syria.

Trump held a campaign rally in northern Minnesota yesterday, and went off script into a 2 hour rant. I wont go into details, but it was really off the rails with the fearmongering on a number of topics. Really disturbing to see the POTUS just spewing out one lie and distortion after another. Somehow though, the base still eats it up.
 

jmagg

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we don't disagree, but i would like to point out there is a difference between Law and Order and Law and Justice.
Justice
1 the quality of being just; righteousness, equitableness, or moral rightness:to uphold the justice of a cause.
2 rightfulness or lawfulness, as of a claim or title; justness of ground or reason:to complain with justice.
3 the moral principle determining just conduct.
4 conformity to this principle, as manifested in conduct; just conduct, dealing, or treatment.
5 the administering of deserved punishment or reward.
6 the maintenance or administration of what is just by law, as by judicial or other proceedings:a court of justice.

Can there be justice without order?
 

hal2kilo

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Justice
1 the quality of being just; righteousness, equitableness, or moral rightness:to uphold the justice of a cause.
2 rightfulness or lawfulness, as of a claim or title; justness of ground or reason:to complain with justice.
3 the moral principle determining just conduct.
4 conformity to this principle, as manifested in conduct; just conduct, dealing, or treatment.
5 the administering of deserved punishment or reward.
6 the maintenance or administration of what is just by law, as by judicial or other proceedings:a court of justice.

Can there be justice without order?
Order for who?
 

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