So, P&N is closing? (New Purch ToS)

VirtualLarry

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Just wondering. Seems like this sub-forum directly contradicts Purch's new ToS.

5.2 Prohibited Uses. Use of the Services for any illegal purpose, or any other purpose not expressly permitted in these Terms, is strictly prohibited. Without limitation, you will not:

  • Post or otherwise provide User Content that harasses, abuses, or threatens any other person, or that contains obscene content;
  • Post User Content that degrades others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual preference, disability or other classification;
  • Post User Content that is unlawful, harmful, tortious, defamatory, libelous, or invasive of another’s privacy;
 
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zinfamous

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We are doomed!

...but I wouldn't be surprised if Purch didn't realize this forum existed. Heck, if I was new to AT, I'd stay the hell away from here.
 
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Just wondering. Seems like this sub-forum directly contradicts Purch's new ToS.

5.2 Prohibited Uses. Use of the Services for any illegal purpose, or any other purpose not expressly permitted in these Terms, is strictly prohibited. Without limitation, you will not:

  • Post or otherwise provide User Content that harasses, abuses, or threatens any other person, or that contains obscene content;
  • Post User Content that degrades others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sexual preference, disability or other classification;
  • Post User Content that is unlawful, harmful, tortious, defamatory, libelous, or invasive of another’s privacy;
Perhaps it'll make the leftist members of our community rein in their rhetoric a bit.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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There's always The Place Which Cannot be Mentioned.

I read the TOS and damn it looks like Stalin and the MPAA wrote it.
 
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Jaskalas

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There's always discussion club... where being on topic and not rude or harassing was the general idea.
 

Ackmed

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Its pretty clear in the guidelines for this forum that personal attacks are allowed, but who knows. I don't think P&N is going anywhere. Personally I wouldn't really care, actually prefer it I think. Its not the same anymore. So many people do nothing but insult others and provide nothing of substance. Attack, attack, attack, it's getting old. A few newcomers have seriously degraded these forums.
 

PokerGuy

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There's always The Place Which Cannot be Mentioned.

I read the TOS and damn it looks like Stalin and the MPAA wrote it.

Holy crap, that's awful.

I occasionally check out the other forums, but if P&N gets neutered I guess it's time to move on.
 
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Its pretty clear in the guidelines for this forum that personal attacks are allowed, but who knows. I don't think P&N is going anywhere. Personally I wouldn't really care, actually prefer it I think. Its not the same anymore. So many people do nothing but insult others and provide nothing of substance. Attack, attack, attack, it's getting old. A few newcomers have seriously degraded these forums.
I agree...and the trolls get away with murder here.
 
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Well, lets see how quickly someone reports Agent for calling someone a white nationalist.
Or a racist for that matter. Case in point regarding trolls...Agent is Exhibit A. Why they allow his kind of crap is beyond me. Oh wait...he's a progressive who loves to denigrate conservatives...nm.
 
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Holy crap, that's awful.

I occasionally check out the other forums, but if P&N gets neutered I guess it's time to move on.
I personally like the latitude...but the trolling which adds absolutely nothing to the discussion is getting way out of hand imo.
 
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I have taken to ignoring him. He's lost in his own mind and he does serve as a reminder that hate isn't restricted to ideology.
He obviously has "issues". I've thought about ignoring him several times...but it's kind of like watching a train wreck and not being able to look away.
 

superstition

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Its pretty clear in the guidelines for this forum that personal attacks are allowed, but who knows.
Actually, the guidelines are contradictory. It says in capital letters not to have personal flaming and yet personal attack is supposedly allowed.

Personal attack has no legitimate role in a forum that's anything other than Dada comedy. It has nothing to do with free speech since everything carries a price tag.

Anyone who welcomes free insult welcomes noise rather than signal. It's Dadaism.

The crucial distinction that so many don't recognize is that attacking ideas is fine. Attacking people for being fallible is generally much less useful.
A few newcomers have seriously degraded these forums.
Yeah, right. Some of the worst posters are the most prolific.
 
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MongGrel

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I've some guidelines I have to folllow, if P&N goes down you probably won't see me around much.
 
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