so obama is giving more money away, 55 million to palestine

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NoStateofMind

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Wtf, the money train just does not stop for him at all. But American school kids cant tour our nations capital due to no money? Seriously wtf!!!

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/01/180092.htm


Obama spending for non-tax payers
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Obama spending for taxpayers

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damn i cant wait till he is out of the white house.

I hope you aren't naive enough to think it stops with him out of the white house.
 

dawheat

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1. This reminds me when some folks were claiming that tax increases on the wealthy would only raise billions of dollars, hardly make a dent in the deficit, and hardly be worth doing.

Yet here we are talking about 55 million dollars. I never advocate for waste, but if you're going to have principles, have principles both ways.

2. Per the link, the $55 million contribution will provide critical health, education, and humanitarian services to five million Palestinian refugees in the region.

Beyond humanitarian aid never being a complete waste of money, I imagine it would be prudent to look beyond the surface and judge whether it's a cost effective way to keep a headache from growing into a splitting migraine the US doesn't want. This is chump change if it helps keep the status quo in the ME. Frankly I don't give a flying fvsk about Israel or Palestine, but having the refugees fall below the line of poverty to utter hopelessness is a recipe for more violence.

If this money keeps them barely going along and helps maintains the current peace there, then it's a great investment.

<edit> What's the economic cost if there is another flare up in the ME, people on both sides are killed, and other nations like Iran start making threats? Oil prices spike, US consumers are hurt, and economic growth is hindered. The proper role of the State Department is to take strategic and tactical steps to ensure the welfare of Americans - frankly I want them to make these cheap investments. What I don't want them to do is to be nation building or other idiotic and massively expensive work.
 
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Perhaps the $55 million is a good will gesture to try to keep other Muslims from inflicting more than $55 million worth of costs on us. I'd like to think that the money will help poor Palestinians who are victims of their leadership.
 

Orignal Earl

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Perhaps the $55 million is a good will gesture to try to keep other Muslims from inflicting more than $55 million worth of costs on us..

The US was helping Palestinians long before 9/11
You don't think a few bribes can stop terrorism do you?
 

kage69

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...and another Bush voter circle jerk of outrage peters out...


You guys are still funny.
 

Texashiker

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Wtf, the money train just does not stop for him at all. But American school kids cant tour our nations capital due to no money? Seriously wtf!!!

Obama has to get rid of money the federal reserve is printing out of thin air.

Federal reserve prints money, gives it to the banks.

Obama then takes money that is supposed to go to the people and gives it to foreign nations.

In other words, obama and like all other presidents before him, he is exporting our inflation.
 
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I have lost what little respect I had for that piece of shit obama. He lied about the sequester causing massive pain and now he does this. How can anyone be stupid enough to still support him?
 

unokitty

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Charles Kozierok

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I would think the difference between money spent on Obama's non stop campaign touring, golfing, vacations, Michelle's, vacations, the Kids vacations, fancy parties, etc... versus Bush's which were mostly trips to his ranch and knowing he spent far more time at the White House than Obama does, would be astronomically different.

Would you "think" that now?

You could, you know, actually look up the information. As Ryan did.

But you don't, because you don't actually give a shit about anything other than mindless Obama bashing.
 

Pr0d1gy

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Have any of you ever considered that American voters now understand that America needs to fail?
 

bshole

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Compared to Afghanistan I would say Israel has been a great investment.

I would disagree with that assessment. All support for Israel has ever given us is the undying emnity of the muslim world. What positive contributions has Israel made for American self interests? Israel doesn't have any material resources that we need. The muslim countries have material resources that we do need (oil).

Why don't we just get our oil from the middle east and get out (like China)? It is like some kind of damn tar baby. We keep pissing off the muslim nations who provide a vital resource by getting into bed with Israel.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20120728/us-us-israel-spying/

Such meddling underscores what is widely known but rarely discussed outside intelligence circles: Despite inarguable ties between the U.S. and its closest ally in the Middle East and despite statements from U.S. politicians trumpeting the friendship, U.S. national security officials consider Israel to be, at times, a frustrating ally and a genuine counterintelligence threat.
In addition to what the former U.S. officials described as intrusions in homes in the past decade, Israel has been implicated in U.S. criminal espionage cases and disciplinary proceedings against CIA officers and blamed in the presumed death of an important spy in Syria for the CIA during the administration of President George W. Bush.