So Obama is an elitist?

[techs]

In the realm of manufactured political attacks this takes the cake.
WTF?
Personally, I want my Presidents smarter and better educated then me.
If they prefer caviar over Frito's who gives a sh*t?
I thought we were electing a President of the United States.
Not the President of a frat house.
We already have one of those, and look how badly he turned out.

 

[sandorski]

"Elitist" is the new "Liberal".

 

[EagleKeeper]

Funny that when you were backing Hillary, yoiu were more than happy to hear & possibly spout such thins about Obama.

 

[nageov3t]

in context, the elite doesn't necessarily mean smarter or richer, but out of touch with the every-day concerns of your beer swilling, doritos-eating Americans.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Funny that when you were backing Hillary, yoiu were more than happy to hear & possibly spout such thins about Obama.

actually techs wasn't that bad about the namecalling, it was more the ludicrous predictions, aka 'the thread'. welcome back techs.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: loki8481
in context, the elite doesn't necessarily mean smarter or richer, but out of touch with the every-day concerns of your beer swilling, doritos-eating Americans.

in other words, in line with about 90% of all our elected officials, ever. In fact that number is probably low

 

[brencat]

Of course it goes without saying we want someone who's intelligent and politically savvy, especially since he/she'll have to deal with plenty of shady characters in the world stage. At the same time, I don't want a Prez who "thinks he knows what's best for you" because there's a fine line between being intelligent and humble, and intelligent and elitist. The clinging to guns and religion flippant comment was a good example of that.

Personally I haven't made up my mind about Obama yet. Hillary scared me more than he does but frankly I'm an issues voter anyway and don't give a fvck about a candidate's delivery or campaign hype. Show me the results.

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: loki8481
in context, the elite doesn't necessarily mean smarter or richer, but out of touch with the every-day concerns of your beer swilling, doritos-eating Americans.

Yes, out of touch with their concerns and someone who looks down upon them. That is how elitist is negative.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: loki8481
in context, the elite doesn't necessarily mean smarter or richer, but out of touch with the every-day concerns of your beer swilling, doritos-eating Americans.

Exactly. George Bush is not seen as elitist despite having gone to some great schools and having buckets of money.

 

[yllus]

America's presidents have never been from common stock, really. I thought that maybe Lincoln would be an exception, but even he was a very well-to-do lawyer.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: yllus
America's presidents have never been from common stock, really. I thought that maybe Lincoln would be an exception, but even he was a very well-to-do lawyer.

Truman would be another exception.

 

[SP33Demon]

Obama is sexy, not elitist. /smacks with a rainbow trout

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: yllus
America's presidents have never been from common stock, really. I thought that maybe Lincoln would be an exception, but even he was a very well-to-do lawyer.

How is Clinton (Bill) not from "common" stock? I don't remember him being from a family of power and means.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: yllus
America's presidents have never been from common stock, really. I thought that maybe Lincoln would be an exception, but even he was a very well-to-do lawyer.

How is Clinton (Bill) not from "common" stock? I don't remember him being from a family of power and means.

by the time he got to office, his wife was on the board of walmart and he was already a wealthy lawyer.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: loki8481
in context, the elite doesn't necessarily mean smarter or richer, but out of touch with the every-day concerns of your beer swilling, doritos-eating Americans.

Being out of touch with that is a virtue.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: yllus
America's presidents have never been from common stock, really. I thought that maybe Lincoln would be an exception, but even he was a very well-to-do lawyer.

Truman would be another exception.

What about Carter?

Do military men count as well? Considering at best they started out as a Bachelors degree-holding 2nd lieutenant

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: yllus
America's presidents have never been from common stock, really. I thought that maybe Lincoln would be an exception, but even he was a very well-to-do lawyer.

How is Clinton (Bill) not from "common" stock? I don't remember him being from a family of power and means.

by the time he got to office, his wife was on the board of walmart and he was already a wealthy lawyer.

He was a wealthy lawyer because he worked his ass off, graduating Phi Beta Kappa from Georgetown, becoming a Rhodes Scholar, and getting into Yale law school all on his own merits.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: yllus
America's presidents have never been from common stock, really. I thought that maybe Lincoln would be an exception, but even he was a very well-to-do lawyer.

How is Clinton (Bill) not from "common" stock? I don't remember him being from a family of power and means.

by the time he got to office, his wife was on the board of walmart and he was already a wealthy lawyer.

He was a wealthy lawyer because he worked his ass off, graduating Phi Beta Kappa from Georgetown, becoming a Rhodes Scholar, and getting into Yale law school all on his own merits.

I'm sure most Presidents have worked their asses off. This country has had millions of people born into wealth and only 43 Presidents.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: yllus
America's presidents have never been from common stock, really. I thought that maybe Lincoln would be an exception, but even he was a very well-to-do lawyer.

Truman would be another exception.

Truman is about the only exception, and unfortunately he owed his political career to the corrupt Pendergast machine. It was only due to political circumstances and because he distinguished himself well in the Senate after Pendergast's downfall that he became VP. Still, it is said that FDR always hated him.

Still, a good number of US Presidents have come from humble origins. Off the top of my head: Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, Truman, Lincoln, and Jackson. Sure, they were all successful by the time they made a run at the White House, but we don't elect losers.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

HRC thinks he's an elitist:

Obama was caught in an uncharacteristic moment of loose language. Referring to working-class voters in old industrial towns decimated by job losses, the presidential hopeful said: "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

The comments were seized on by his rival for the Democratic party candidacy, Hillary Clinton, who saw in them the hope of reviving her flagging campaign by turning voters in the important Pennsylvania primary on April 22 against what she classed as Obama's revealed "elitism".

"I was taken aback by the demeaning remarks Senator Obama made about people in small-town America," she said on Saturday. "His remarks are elitist and out of touch." Clinton campaigners in North Carolina handed out stickers saying: "I'm not bitter."

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: yllus
America's presidents have never been from common stock, really. I thought that maybe Lincoln would be an exception, but even he was a very well-to-do lawyer.

Truman would be another exception.

What about Carter?

Do military men count as well? Considering at best they started out as a Bachelors degree-holding 2nd lieutenant

Reagan too. Woodrow Wilson.

The two Roosevelts and Kennedy are the ones that immediately come to mind that were born into wealth.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: techs
In the realm of manufactured political attacks this takes the cake.
WTF?
Personally, I want my Presidents smarter and better educated then me.
If they prefer caviar over Frito's who gives a sh*t?
I thought we were electing a President of the United States.
Not the President of a frat house.
We already have one of those, and look how badly he turned out.

So basically any 3rd grader will do?

I don't think Obama is an elitist. Even if he were that is a stupid thing to be attacking someone for.

If you want to disagree with the man, do so based on your opposition to one his stances or proposals.

Hell one of the problems with politics in this country is that nobody wants to actually discuss the issues. Instead they want everything fed to them in 30 second sound bites that are easily digestible between episodes of American Idol.

I don't see myself voting for Obama as he seems a bit too socialist for me, but so far to his credit he does seem to be putting out proposals, though they may not be fully fleshed out, and talking about the issues.

 

[PokerGuy]

I don't like his politics and will not be voting for him, but I don't think he's an elitist.

 

[AAjax]

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: loki8481
in context, the elite doesn't necessarily mean smarter or richer, but out of touch with the every-day concerns of your beer swilling, doritos-eating Americans.

Yes, out of touch with their concerns and someone who looks down upon them. That is how elitist is negative.

Well put, Elite is a state of mind. Where everyone not like you or your friends is less than and therefore worthy of scorn and ridicule for the entertainment of your superior intellect.

 

[lupi]

Put it this way, if you were to play a little one on one with jordan you wouldn't expect to win, just dribble the ball around a bit and have him do a globetrotter routine on you. If it was the BHO equivalent on the court, he'd be alternating between downing threes and slamming it down the hoop after driving through you.