So, now that we have gotten to know Sarah Palin...

[Balt]

In most cases no one would care much about the VP. With McCain's age, however, people are actually taking a look at who might become President if something happens to him. If he had picked someone that could even feign competence it wouldn't have been an issue, but he didn't. A terrible choice for anything other than firing up the Republican base.

 

[Eeezee]

She was a bad choice. Picking her was clearly an attempt to gather Hillary supporters, but they didn't count on Palin being so unqualified for even a VP position. The Republicans took a gamble and lost. At best, she did not increase McCain's numbers at all (an initial boost followed by a big slump after a few public appearances). At worst, she has actually decreased his popularity because she makes it much easier to question his judgment.

I think it reflects McCain's opportunist nature. He's not looking out for the nation, he's looking out for himself. This is why he has lost so much respect for centrists across the nation. When he decided that he'd make a presidential run, he sacrificed his principles and took the steps necessary to secure himself as the Republican nominee, steps which included a descent into insane neoconservative politics and promoting the Bush doctrine. In the end, his flip flopping just shows that he's an opportunist, nothing more.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Come one. You're one of the most liberal and closed minded people on these boards. Don't try to act like you actually looked at the other side for anything other than a target so you can throw more mud.

Did McCain have to choose such an easy target though?

Even the smartest and best person for the job is an easy target for the liberals of AT. If only they would focus all of that anger and hate into something productive...wow.

You know, I can't help but notice that you're not disagreeing with "the liberals of AT". Your engaging in the oldest and least rational method of arguing known to man, attack the source instead of the facts. It doesn't matter if you're the paragon of unbiased or a foaming at the mouth partisan, the facts are still the facts...and I don't see you disputing THOSE.

It was not an attack. It was an observation.

And a confession. What you're doing, albeit in a very roundabout way, is admitting that Sarah Palin is a poor VP pick.

The fact that most Republicans would rather 'observe' that the source is biased, even when it isn't, is no better than admitting that the source is correct.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What were McCain's other choices?

And would any of them added more to the ticket?

Does McCain jump to a big post convention lead with Romeny on the ticket?

Also, look at the generic congressional ballot polls. Post Palin the Republicans jumped big time. McCain may lose, but it will not be due to Palin.
McCain may actually be setting the party up for the future and pointing it in the right direction the same way Goldwater did.

And I don't think we have seen the last of Palin either. Some high powered Rove type will latch on to her and spend the next four years preparing her for a run in 2012 or 2016. Joke all you want about her, but she went toe to toe with a guy who has been in the Senate since she was in the 2nd grade and held her own. Give her four years to learn more about the issue and get comfortable talking about them and see what happens.

Define 'held her own'

The fact that she had to dodge most of the questions suggests that she was in no way holding her own. In a true debate, with a moderator actually moderating, she would have been crushed.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Come one. You're one of the most liberal and closed minded people on these boards. Don't try to act like you actually looked at the other side for anything other than a target so you can throw more mud.

Did McCain have to choose such an easy target though?

Even the smartest and best person for the job is an easy target for the liberals of AT. If only they would focus all of that anger and hate into something productive...wow.

You know, I can't help but notice that you're not disagreeing with "the liberals of AT". Your engaging in the oldest and least rational method of arguing known to man, attack the source instead of the facts. It doesn't matter if you're the paragon of unbiased or a foaming at the mouth partisan, the facts are still the facts...and I don't see you disputing THOSE.

It was not an attack. It was an observation.

And a confession. What you're doing, albeit in a very roundabout way, is admitting that Sarah Palin is a poor VP pick.

The fact that most Republicans would rather 'observe' that the source is biased, even when it isn't, is no better than admitting that the source is correct.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. I think that she carries some risk. She obviously lacks experience being in the public spotlight, but I don't really have enough information to make an educated oppinion on the subject. You can read into what I say all you want, but you're not going to figure out my true position by reading this post.