So Nevada is the deciding state...

[Pohemi]

If he takes Nevada but loses the rest then he's at 270. Good, right? Except even a single faithless elector would mean a disaster in this scenario. And there were more than one in the last election.

Did it happen in any states in the general election in 2016? I only remember the DNC fuckery with one of the states going to Hillary that Bernie should have taken during the primary.

 

[EliteRetard]

The EC is dumb and antiquated. It was created due to a concern of a low information population with a lack of access to news and learning, especially rural outposts, choosing a demagogue populist immoral dipshit as president and in that situation the educated and informed electors would see that and overrule the will of the people. Also because since they couldn't give negroes the right to vote, they could count them as 3/5th of a person, counting towards their electors for the southern states while not giving the black person any rights at all. Thus even-ing out the population differences between North and South.

Now, finally, black people can vote, and now we have all the information in the world in our pockets on little super computers, access to education to boot, and you now have nearly half the population, a huge chunk of them indeed in more rural outposts, being ignorant of reality and electing demagogue populist immoral dipshits anyways.

You can't make this shit up, it writes itself.

Whatever system would have resulted in Obama losing in 2012 sounds like a worse system than the EC. He won the popular vote by 5 Million and had 51% of the vote.

Just ditch the EC and go to straight whichever candidate has the most votes wins is the easiest and fairest system, full stop.

Well another bad side effect of the EC is that it dissuades voters depending where they live. For example i live in KS, but vote Dem. Its basically meaningless for the president. As would a CA republican voter be. I think more people would show up to the polls if your vote was equal no matter where you happened to reside. After all this is for the President of the United States, not just a state. Im against anything that would give someone any pause to not vote. So to me the EC has to go.

Yep.

I'd be in favor of keeping the EC, provided all the states split the votes by population and it wasn't a winner take all system. I'm in KY and my vote is next to meaningless in Presidential elections.


I agree.. the EC has it's place.. it just needs tweaked..

Outside of the slavery 3/5 issue.. i see the EC as preventing the "mob rule".. where the same ruling class in California/New York would control the outcome, each and every election. That still would result in the same issue.. large percentage of the country's vote wouldn't mean squat

Also yep.

It's a tough issue.

I think the easiest thing for now would be to eliminate winner takes all.
Even if it's not a perfect system, I think it would be much better.

 

[Mermaidman]

I withdraw my prediction. Ridiculously run Nevada election precludes anything definite until after the weekend and the mail in ballets fucking arrive.

One should think that Nevada would be good at counting stuff, if nothing else . . . Put those casino dealers to work!

 

[sactoking]

The slowdown is due to the nature of the ballots. The 60k or so uncounted ballots in Clark are provisional ballots. The county needs the Secretary of State to confirm the voters didn't cast a ballot in another county before they can be counted.

 

[hal2kilo]

The slowdown is due to the nature of the ballots. The 60k or so uncounted ballots in Clark are provisional ballots. The county needs the Secretary of State to confirm the voters didn't cast a ballot in another county before they can be counted.

Thanks Trump.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I withdraw my prediction. Ridiculously run Nevada election precludes anything definite until after the weekend and the mail in ballets fucking arrive.

Yep, we're looking at Sunday probably.

 

[EliteRetard]

The slowdown is due to the nature of the ballots. The 60k or so uncounted ballots in Clark are provisional ballots. The county needs the Secretary of State to confirm the voters didn't cast a ballot in another county before they can be counted.

Nahhh...

Obviously they did it for the memes.

 

[UNCjigga]

Umm, NV Sec State just said 90% of the remaining ballots are from Clark County (roughly 170,000 worth.)

They're going to call it for Biden within the hour.

 

[IronWing]

I agree.. the EC has it's place.. it just needs tweaked..

Outside of the slavery 3/5 issue.. i see the EC as preventing the "mob rule".. where the same ruling class in California/New York would control the outcome, each and every election. That still would result in the same issue.. large percentage of the country's vote wouldn't mean squat

How is CA/NY "mob rule" but WI/FA isn't? The difference between the two is that in the case of using the popular vote, every vote matters and it ends minority rule. Minority rule has yielded two of the worst presidents in US history.

 

[JEDI]

Umm, NV Sec State just said 90% of the remaining ballots are from Clark County (roughly 170,000 worth.)

They're going to call it for Biden within the hour.

woke up this morning.
he now leads ga as well as nv.
and trumps lead in pa has shrunk ALOT. biden might also take pa.

if he takes all 3, then i guess he will have the blowout predicted for weeks b4 the election.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Yep.



Also yep.

It's a tough issue.

I think the easiest thing for now would be to eliminate winner takes all.
Even if it's not a perfect system, I think it would be much better.

Winner takes all naturally leads to a two party system, so it would also make 3rd parties much more viable as well.

 

[fleshconsumed]

woke up this morning.
he now leads ga as well as nv.
and trumps lead in pa has shrunk ALOT. biden might also take pa.

if he takes all 3, then i guess he will have the blowout predicted for weeks b4 the election.

The blowout predictions had Biden up by 5-8% in the swing states. That did not happen. Instead Biden is barely squeaking by in all the states he was supposed to take by storm. In 2016 Trump barely squeaked by 77K votes in 3 crucial swing states. In 2020 Biden will barely squeak by around 200K votes across 4-5 swing states. That is not a swing state blowout that was predicted.

 

[Sonikku]

The blowout predictions had Biden up by 5-8% in the swing states. That did not happen. Instead Biden is barely squeaking by in all the states he was supposed to take by storm. In 2016 Trump barely squeaked by 77K votes in 3 crucial swing states. In 2020 Biden will barely squeak by around 200K votes across 4-5 swing states. That is not a swing state blowout that was predicted.

An unfortunate truth. Trump may not win, but Trumpism isn't going anywhere. With Lindsey and Mitch winning reelection despite everything they have done over the last four years, you can be sure they will double down. And if not for covid, spiking unemployment and extreme anxiety over the future, Trump almost certainly would have won.

 

[Fenixgoon]

An unfortunate truth. Trump may not win, but Trumpism isn't going anywhere. With Lindsey and Mitch winning reelection despite everything they have done over the last four years, you can be sure they will double down. And if not for covid, spiking unemployment and extreme anxiety over the future, Trump almost certainly would have won.

that is one of the craziest and scariest parts of this election