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So my notebook came with Vista 32, and I want 64

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SilthDraeth

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Is my only alternative, to getting the 64 bit disks, to buy a copy another OEM copy of Vista, with a 64 bit disk?

Microsoft says your license key, is good for either 32 bit, or 64 bit of the same version of Vista. Since my notebook came with Vista 32 Home Premium, I can use it's key for 64 bit version.

I understand I will have to hunt down drivers, but is there another way of getting the 64 bit version, besides shelling out $200 bucks?
 
Your laptop has a 64-bit processor?

Microsoft's site only mentions retail copies of Vista; I'm not sure if you can upgrade OEM media.
 
What do you want 64-bit for? Are you planning on using 4GB of RAM or more on that Laptop? Because otherwise I don't think it's worth it.
 
Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
Is my only alternative, to getting the 64 bit disks, to buy a copy another OEM copy of Vista, with a 64 bit disk?

Microsoft says your license key, is good for either 32 bit, or 64 bit of the same version of Vista. Since my notebook came with Vista 32 Home Premium, I can use it's key for 64 bit version.

I understand I will have to hunt down drivers, but is there another way of getting the 64 bit version, besides shelling out $200 bucks?
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Can't you find someone with a 64-bit OEM CDROM and use your own key?
 
There is no OEM DVD or Retail DVD. There is no Premium DVD or basic DVD. They are all the same. The key determines what you get.

All you need is a 64-bit media.

Edit:
I am not a lawyer.
But, I wonder if you have paid for a license, is downloading the media illegal?
I mean if you only download a media that does not include a key and use your own key, is that illegal?
 
Originally posted by: Navid
There is no OEM DVD or Retail DVD. There is no Premium DVD or basic DVD. They are all the same. The key determines what you get.

All you need is a 64-bit media.

Edit:
I am not a lawyer.
But, I wonder if you have paid for a license, is downloading the media illegal?
I mean if you only download a media that does not include a key and use your own key, is that illegal?
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Are you sure? Did that chance since XP or something? I know with XP you needed to have like media/key.

Either way, borrow a 64-bit DVD and use your own key = problem solved! 🙂
 
Yes, my notebook has a 64 bit, Turion 64 x2. Yes, if I knew someone with a 64 bit dvd I would. But all I have is the restore DVD from Asus.

Thanks for the input.

As for memory, no I do not plan to have more than 4gb of memory. I feel that is practically impossible on a notebook with 2 SODIMM slots. But 64 bit has more to offer than just increase memory recognition in the OS.
 
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: Navid
There is no OEM DVD or Retail DVD. There is no Premium DVD or basic DVD. They are all the same. The key determines what you get.

All you need is a 64-bit media.

Edit:
I am not a lawyer.
But, I wonder if you have paid for a license, is downloading the media illegal?
I mean if you only download a media that does not include a key and use your own key, is that illegal?
Click to expand...

Are you sure? Did that chance since XP or something? I know with XP you needed to have like media/key.
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Yes, I am sure.
I have a Vista media. I have used it to install Vista Business retail on my PC. I have the key for that. My mom has a laptop with Vista home premium OEM.
I did not like all the junk software on the laptop.

So, I used my media and installed Vista on the laptop. I used the laptop key at the beginning of the installation. I had to call to get it activated. After I gave the installation ID to the girl, on the phone, she asked to confirm that I was trying to activate Vista home premium. I never told her that. She knew because the key I used was associated with that version of Vista.

It activated fine with no problems.
 
Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
But 64 bit has more to offer than just increase memory recognition in the OS.
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Of course it does, and 64-bit is the future. We mustn't forget that it also allows for a 64-bit process to map over 2GB of RAM when running...and Vista 64 does offer increased security over the 32-bit version.

I'd make sure, however, that all your devices work first. I've been running Vista 64-bit for almost 4 months now and I love it, but I had to sacrifice a couple of apps and devices which won't work. iTunes won't work (it does run, but it's really broken); most of my guitar modeling and recording gear doesn't work (no drivers)...so for my it was a trade off between getting all my 4G or having all my hardware work. In the end I chose the former and I can always boot back to XP or use Virtual PC for things that don't work.


But it's still a hassle. I wouldn't be running it if it weren't for the extra RAM. It still has a little bit to mature, driver-wise, before the transition to 64-bit Windows is completely transparent. Just having a 64-bit processor doesn't justify running 64-bit Windows in my opinion.
 
Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
I feel that is practically impossible on a notebook with 2 SODIMM slots.
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Not really true! I bought a new Lenovo T60 this past spring, and one of the options was a single 2 GB SODIMM. That left me with one open so I can upgrade to 4 GB for 64 bit down the road.

Anyone with a Microsoft TechNet Plus subscription can download the ISO file for the 64 bit Vista DVD. With your key that ought to work. But, I don't think it will. TechNet provides a separate key for each edition.

 
Originally posted by: corkyg
Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
I feel that is practically impossible on a notebook with 2 SODIMM slots.
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Not really true! I bought a new Lenovo T60 this past spring, and one of the options was a single 2 GB SODIMM. That left me with one open so I can upgrade to 4 GB for 64 bit down the road.
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I didn't say 4GB was impossible. But please tell me where you can buy 4GB SODIMMs
 
Navid, I do not believe it to be illegal to download Vista, as long as the iso being downloaded requires a legitimate key for installation. The problem is finding a link. If you have a link, where it can be downloaded, I would appreciate it.

I don't have a Technet subscription, though I hadn't thought of that avenue.
 
When I bought my copy of Vista Business through my school, I was able to enter my key on MS's website to determine if it was eligible for 64 bit media. It was, and I paid the S@H for a 64 bit DVD.
 
I posted a link to a bittorrent. But, it was removed because that is not allowed here. I am sorry.
I don't mean to post any link that is against the rules.
 
Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
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I didn't say 4GB was impossible. But please tell me where you can buy 4GB SODIMMs[/quote]

Who said anything about 4 GB SODIMMs? How about a pair of 2 GB SODIMMs ?

2GB



 
Originally posted by: Navid
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: Navid
There is no OEM DVD or Retail DVD. There is no Premium DVD or basic DVD. They are all the same. The key determines what you get.

All you need is a 64-bit media.

Edit:
I am not a lawyer.
But, I wonder if you have paid for a license, is downloading the media illegal?
I mean if you only download a media that does not include a key and use your own key, is that illegal?
Click to expand...

Are you sure? Did that chance since XP or something? I know with XP you needed to have like media/key.
Click to expand...

Yes, I am sure.
I have a Vista media. I have used it to install Vista Business retail on my PC. I have the key for that. My mom has a laptop with Vista home premium OEM.
I did not like all the junk software on the laptop.

So, I used my media and installed Vista on the laptop. I used the laptop key at the beginning of the installation. I had to call to get it activated. After I gave the installation ID to the girl, on the phone, she asked to confirm that I was trying to activate Vista home premium. I never told her that. She knew because the key I used was associated with that version of Vista.

It activated fine with no problems.
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Ah cool. Learn something every day. 🙂 Thanks for the info. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: SilthDraethI don't have a Technet subscription, though I hadn't thought of that avenue.
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Check your private mail. 🙂

 
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