So..looks like we are gonna smack up Saddam this fall

[WA261]

nothing new...just didnt know when.....news said we are not going to wait for international support....we are launching major engagement this fall

 

[fatalbert]

link?

 

[WA261]

was a news break on the radio...lookin for proof on cnn now

 

[ThaGrandCow]

major engagement meaning we're going to send 3 tanks over there and mop up.
Or maybe all we need to send is 1 ninja

 

[fatalbert]

<< major engagement meaning we're going to send 3 tanks over there and mop up.
Or maybe all we need to send is 1 ninja >>



lol

well defeating them out in the desert wouldn't be that tough, I'm not so sure about actually taking over the whole country, we could do it, but would the American public be willing to accept the casualties

 

[XMan]

I don't get . . . we always send these big armies over.

Chuck Norris, Stallone, and Schwarzenegger all have proven they can take out armies on their own. Send them over, Iraq would be history in about 90 minutes. 😛

 

[WA261]

hehehe....i had to order one of those shirts....that page still cracks me up

 

[Hammer]

I wonder if we'll have some major tanks battles like before. Iraq probably learned a bit from the last time, so they have more SAM sites clustered around strategic targets and we won't gain air superiority as quickly.

 

[Novgrod]

I'm still dubious, particularly if we're going to try the "use the locals" approach. Iraq has armor, after all.

I wonder what sort of government would be established in iraq. Hard to imagine anything successful with Iran right there and any number of hostile forces within the country. Dunno . . .

 

[dexvx]

Iraqi Elite Republican Gaurd isnt exactly like engaging pushover Talibans.

During Desert storm, the US never did engage the majority of Saddam's Elite corps of the Republican Gaurd if I am not mistaken, they only engaged the regular corps.

I just wonder how the ever-volatile Arab world will see this.

But then again, the best defense is a good offense.

 

[BlueApple]

Last weekend on one of the Sunday shows, a republican strategist said if we go over and take over Saddam, it will either be (a) send 250,000 - 500,000 troops over there and do a land, air, sea approach(ala Desert Storm), or (b) send Delta Force and Rangers into Baghdad (he said about 2,00-3,000) to do close in, urban warfare

 

[WA261]

<< During Desert storm, the US never did engage the majority of Saddam's Elite corps of the Republican Gaurd if I am not mistaken, they only engaged the regular corps. >>




not correct, we got them last

 

[Novgrod]

My understanding of the land battle (and as always, I'm too lazy to look it up) is as follows:

Marines moved into Kuwait to fight Iraq's hoopty troops (if you'll pardon the colloquialism). The hoopty troops had been arc-lit (the past tense of arc-lighting?) (this is when 3 b-52s fly and drop i think 500 lb bombs in a 1x3 km pattern that more or less decimates everything in that region) extensively. They caved like the pansies they were.

America's main thrust was a flanking move of armor from west Iraq. The Republican Guard came to meet it, and, well, their ass was whomped. They actually didn't get the brunt of the b-52 action either, so . . . well, for being elite, they aren't that grand.

Edit: their tank rounds were more or less incapable of blowing up an American tank. It could cripple the tank, not kill it.

If anybody cares, it's in Daryl Press' article on air power/iraq and Bob Pape's book called _Bombing to Win_ (though there may be better sources).

 

[XMan]

The hoopty troops had been arc-lit (the past tense of arc-lighting?) (this is when 3 b-52s fly and drop i think 500 lb bombs in a 1x3 km pattern that more or less decimates everything in that region) extensively.

Uh . . . arc light refers to the use of nuclear weapons. Check the book of the same name by Eric Harry. 😉