So like, if your memory sticks could handle any speed thrown at it, what is the maximum the bus of DDR-II could handle?

MadRat

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So like, if your memory sticks could handle any speed thrown at it, what is the maximum the bus of DDR-II could handle? So, like, what is the answer?
 

AndyHui

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So like, I'm still trying to figure out what you are asking.
 

Monoman

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[smart a$$ chinese voice] your answa is.... two! [/smart a$$ chinese voice]
 

Ionizer86

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He's saying, assuming the memory could clock up as high as you want it to, what would the limit be on the bus between the ram and the chipset.
 

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Originally posted by: Ionizer86
He's saying, assuming the memory could clock up as high as you want it to, what would the limit be on the bus between the ram and the chipset.

If mem speed would not be a problems then cpu & chipset would be the limitation as it is now.
 

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Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: Ionizer86
He's saying, assuming the memory could clock up as high as you want it to, what would the limit be on the bus between the ram and the chipset.

If mem speed would not be a problems then cpu & chipset would be the limitation as it is now.

No no, he is asking what if the DRAM core could run at an infinite speed, how fast could the DDR-II bus run. It's like asking how fast could the Athlon XP FSB run if the core was not the limit in overclocking. I don't know but roadmaps suggest that DDR-II will top out at 800MHz. Now whether this is the limitation of the DDR-II bus or the DRAM core is probably impossible to tell.
 

CZroe

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Originally posted by: Ionizer86
He's saying, assuming the memory could clock up as high as you want it to, what would the limit be on the bus between the ram and the chipset.

No, clearly he's saying "I need to make up posts to reach 10K!" ;) J/K

Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: Ionizer86
He's saying, assuming the memory could clock up as high as you want it to, what would the limit be on the bus between the ram and the chipset.

If mem speed would not be a problems then cpu & chipset would be the limitation as it is now.

No, clearly the motherboard traces and layout would not be able to support a stick with increasingly higher unlimited frequency long before other high-speed silicon would become a problem. It's the reason motherboards typically need revisions when a new speed grade of a compatible chipset is released.
 

NokiaDude

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I heard DDR-II is going to have high CAS latencies, I'd rather stick with DDR and run my speedy 2-2-2-5-1T with HyperX RAM.
 

Twista

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How many other read over what he said about 12 times? Than after that how many also read it 5 more times but out loud this time?
 

KristopherKubicki

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Nay,

I talked to some vendors. We could probably see some insane speeds out of DDR2 before it is replaced by DDR3 (8 prefetchs). From what i hear, it sounds like a lot of people are pretty confident we will see DDR1200 before replacement.

And sure, latencies are high right now but let us keep in mind there arent even any real boards yet :) DDR1 went through the same initiation. Personally, however, i will be running DDR1 for a while

http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1977

Kristopher
 

biostud

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They ran 500Mhz (1000Mhz DDR) on GF FX 5800 Ultra. But if they will need same cooling on the sticks I doubt we get that high :p
 

MDE

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Originally posted by: biostud666
They ran 500Mhz (1000Mhz DDR) on GF FX 5800 Ultra. But if they will need same cooling on the sticks I doubt we get that high :p
FX 5700 Ultras have DDRII memory, and most have passive RAM sinks, and very often will hit 1GHz on the memory. I got a BFG 5700 Ultra that will do 1.01GHz RAM with just the passive heatsinks that get only warm to the touch in a well ventilated case.