So, I've been lead to believe that conservative ideals (and candidates) are out

[CPA]

and the progressive, left-wing dogma is sweeping the country.

So, can someone please explain why then

- San Francisco ousted, by a landslide, their sheriff who supported the city's Sanctuary City regulations.

- Ohio voters rejected legalizing marijuana (though I personally would not have had an issue with the medical prescription of such) by a large margin

- Houston voters rejected Prop 1 (HOPE) that would, along with certain protections of the LGBT crowd, allow men and women to use any bathroom of their choice

- Kentucky voted in a Republican (and Tea Party favorite) governor for only the second time in 40 years.

 

[boomerang]

I think the explanation resides within the quote below.

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. - Joseph Goebbels

 

[fskimospy]

and the progressive, left-wing dogma is sweeping the country.

So, can someone please explain why then

- San Francisco ousted, by a landslide, their sheriff who supported the city's Sanctuary City regulations.

Sure, this would be a start:

http://m.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Hennessy-leads-Mirkarimi-in-S-F-sheriff-race-6609175.php

He was opposed by the entire city government, had numerous personal and professional scandals, and seemed to be an incompetent manager generally. Some of that may well have been related to his immigration stance, but considering how much of the city shares fairly similar immigration views, that's hardly what ousted him.

Conservative media tends to leave the rest out, because it doesn't fit their narrative.

- Ohio voters rejected legalizing marijuana (though I personally would not have had an issue with the medical prescription of such) by a large margin

It was a shitty measure that even a lot of marijuana legalization supporters opposed. I also don't view that as a liberal or conservative issue. You don't seem to either?

- Houston voters rejected Prop 1 (HOPE) that would, along with certain protections of the LGBT crowd, allow men and women to use any bathroom of their choice

I agree this is a rejection of a liberal move, but it's Texas. Not exactly a state known for being on the forefront of social policy, despite Houston's recent election of a gay mayor. I imagine trans rights wil take a few more years for people to come around on.

- Kentucky voted in a Republican (and Tea Party favorite) governor for only the second time in 40 years.

Mitt Romney won Kentucky by a landslide. Republicans winning in a state like that is not particularly surprising.

 

[Paratus]

I think the explanation resides within the quote below.

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. - Joseph Goebbels

Good point. I know for Houston they were running adds from mothers demonizing that law. The ads were about how perverts were going target women and children in bathrooms. Of course transgendered folks are the ones most likely to be abused.

Reminded me of WWII German propaganda showing Poles and other enemies as beasts trying to molest German women.

 

[MrColin]

and the progressive, left-wing dogma is sweeping the country.

So, can someone please explain why then

- San Francisco ousted, by a landslide, their sheriff who supported the city's Sanctuary City regulations.

I'm not sure but isn't that a homeless issue? Everyone hates the homeless in 'frisco and the issue goes back to the 1960's.

- Ohio voters rejected legalizing marijuana (though I personally would not have had an issue with the medical prescription of such) by a large margin

Low turnout from the non-luddites is my best guess.

- Houston voters rejected Prop 1 (HOPE) that would, along with certain protections of the LGBT crowd, allow men and women to use any bathroom of their choice

Sounds pretty silly, even to the queers. I know lots of gay folks and they are actually pretty apathetic toward politics. A bathroom rights referendum isn't going to bring them out in significant numbers.

- Kentucky voted in a Republican (and Tea Party favorite) governor for only the second time in 40 years.

Horse people, and the poor aren't allowed out of the ghettos on weekdays there.


Just guessing wildly here

 

[PokerGuy]

Sadly left wing stupidity is indeed sweeping the country, individual small exceptions notwithstanding. We have a whole generation of facebook narcissists, with a twitter attention span, raised on entitlements and "everything is a micro aggression" victimhood mentality, and they're politically powerful. Unfortunately, by the time they are old and smart enough to realize the stupidity they've inflicted on the country, it will be too late. Entrenched political correctness and entitlements are virtually impossible to get rid of.

 

[glenn1]

and the progressive, left-wing dogma is sweeping the country.

So, can someone please explain why then

- San Francisco ousted, by a landslide, their sheriff who supported the city's Sanctuary City regulations.

- Ohio voters rejected legalizing marijuana (though I personally would not have had an issue with the medical prescription of such) by a large margin

- Houston voters rejected Prop 1 (HOPE) that would, along with certain protections of the LGBT crowd, allow men and women to use any bathroom of their choice

- Kentucky voted in a Republican (and Tea Party favorite) governor for only the second time in 40 years.

You might want to win an election bigger than a city sheriff or whatnot before posting this. Some random guy winning the dogcatcher job isn't proof of a trend.

 

[CPA]

Sure, this would be a start:

http://m.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Hennessy-leads-Mirkarimi-in-S-F-sheriff-race-6609175.php

He was opposed by the entire city government, had numerous personal and professional scandals, and seemed to be an incompetent manager generally. Some of that may well have been related to his immigration stance, but considering how much of the city shares fairly similar immigration views, that's hardly what ousted him.

Conservative media tends to leave the rest out, because it doesn't fit their narrative.



It was a shitty measure that even a lot of marijuana legalization supporters opposed. I also don't view that as a liberal or conservative issue. You don't seem to either?



I agree this is a rejection of a liberal move, but it's Texas. Not exactly a state known for being on the forefront of social policy, despite Houston's recent election of a gay mayor. I imagine trans rights wil take a few more years for people to come around on.



Mitt Romney won Kentucky by a landslide. Republicans winning in a state like that is not particularly surprising.

- He may have been opposed by the entire city government, but the city commissioners unanimously gave a vote of support to the sanctuary city regulations just a month ago (seems like they may be speaking out both sides of their mouth). And if it wasn't for the sanctuary city issue, the vote may have been different. No one outside of SF had heard of this guy until then. And I'm sure, many in SF weren't aware of him either.

- point taken, but legalized pot is generally a liberal hot-topic.

- You don't know Houston politics. It is vastly liberal, the current mayor is a gay liberal, and hasn't had a republican mayor or majority council in ages. It gives Austin a run for its money when it comes to liberal politics.

- It is surprising when it's the second republican governor in 40 years. And a tea-party supported candidate, at that.

 

[fskimospy]

Good point. I know for Houston they were running adds from mothers demonizing that law. The ads were about how perverts were going target women and children in bathrooms. Of course transgendered folks are the ones most likely to be abused.

Reminded me of WWII German propaganda showing Poles and other enemies as beasts trying to molest German women.

It is a mixture of funny and sad how unaware he is of the irony.

 

[IronWing]

Sadly left wing stupidity is indeed sweeping the country, individual small exceptions notwithstanding. We have a whole generation of facebook narcissists, with a twitter attention span, raised on entitlements and "everything is a micro aggression" victimhood mentality, and they're politically powerful. Unfortunately, by the time they are old and smart enough to realize the stupidity they've inflicted on the country, it will be too late. Entrenched political correctness and entitlements are virtually impossible to get rid of.

Posts like this lead me to sympathize with Moonie's diagnosis of the conservative mind.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

- Houston voters rejected Prop 1 (HERO) that would, along with certain protections of the LGBT crowd, allow men and women to use any bathroom of their choice.

FTFY

HERO = Houston Equal Rights Ordinance

 

[Lash444]

You think by chance that the reason the marijuana legislation was shot down, was because it was flawed?

The fact that this country now has a majority that favors legalization, but it failed "by a large margin", should tell you something.

But then again, it obviously doesn't.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Sadly left wing stupidity is indeed sweeping the country, individual small exceptions notwithstanding. We have a whole generation of facebook narcissists, with a twitter attention span, raised on entitlements and "everything is a micro aggression" victimhood mentality, and they're politically powerful. Unfortunately, by the time they are old and smart enough to realize the stupidity they've inflicted on the country, it will be too late. Entrenched political correctness and entitlements are virtually impossible to get rid of.

Wow, this sounds exactly like trumplestiltskin. I wonder if that's what you intended.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It all just shows voters are pissed off for many reasons.

Only exception is Texas. Please Texas just stop making and/or passing laws that don't involve business. They frequently seem poorly thought out or backfire.

 

[K1052]

- San Francisco ousted, by a landslide, their sheriff who supported the city's Sanctuary City regulations.

The incumbent sheriff was basically a pile of hot garbage with many professional and personal scandals percolating, his electoral demise was widely predicted.The new sheriff also supports Sanctuary City...she would not have been elected otherwise.

 

[VashHT]

From what I was reading the Ohio ordinance would have created a monopoly of commercial pot growers in the state, it was more a corporate move to lock down the industry than it was to legalize it openly and thus shot down. That doesn't even mention the other proposition that passed prohibited monopolies in the pot industry so even if prop 3 had passed it wouldn't have been able to do much since it was creating a monopoly out of the gate. Of course we don't know what would have happened if both had passed, but since prop 2 passed maybe a more open legalization can take place in the near future.

Here's a decent story about it: http://www.npr.org/2015/11/03/45429...r-legalizing-marijuana-hits-the-polls-in-ohio

 

[soulcougher73]

Take off your blinders and it shouldnt be too hard to see.

 

[Newell Steamer]

So Conservatism is NOT under attack?

Yeah, thought so.

 

[CPA]

FTFY

HERO = Houston Equal Rights Ordinance

My bad, sorry.

 

[Indus]

I thought about this and the only answer I could come up with is, "we're still divided as usual.. red states will vote red, blue states will vote blue".

Kentucky is solid red as has been proven time and time again in senatorial/ presidential elections. Apparently only 31% of voters made it to the polls which might have helped turned the election on it's head.

Houston is in Texas which is solid red.

Ohio marijuana is a two steps forward, one step backwards kind of thing since it's like abortion. Not the whole country is sold on it and I'd like to point out a blue state like NY still does not have legal recreational marijuana. So this is not surprising at all what happened (regardless of a blue/ red state). I think it'll be 20-40 years before full resolve on this issue.

 

[theeedude]

Congrats, GOP, you got Kentucky. Enjoy.

 

[rudder]

On a national scale the GOP is a mess and there is very little leadership. Just look at Boehner giving obama whatever he wants. These localized places don't have to pander for votes.

Americans by a large part were against obamacare (you hate poor people if you think it is a bad law), they do not want a borderless country (you are a racist xenophobe if you think illegal immigration is a problem), and are concerned about the debt which obama has doubled while in office. The democrats are a propaganda machine (when Hillary retires she will teach graduate level courses on propaganda).

 

[mect]

I agree that a lot of liberals go way overboard on how far the country is moving to the left, but I don't think there's any debate that the country is moving that way. If you just cherry pick individual events, you can make it look like the country is moving any way you please.

 

[JulesMaximus]

and the progressive, left-wing dogma is sweeping the country.

So, can someone please explain why then

- San Francisco ousted, by a landslide, their sheriff who supported the city's Sanctuary City regulations.

- Ohio voters rejected legalizing marijuana (though I personally would not have had an issue with the medical prescription of such) by a large margin

- Houston voters rejected Prop 1 (HOPE) that would, along with certain protections of the LGBT crowd, allow men and women to use any bathroom of their choice

- Kentucky voted in a Republican (and Tea Party favorite) governor for only the second time in 40 years.

It is my understanding that the bill was sponsored and written by one man who would basically control the weed supply in the state exclusively. Even the pro-pot people opposed this bill.

 

[Moonbeam]

Posts like this lead me to sympathize with Moonie's diagnosis of the conservative mind.

Wow, this sounds exactly like trumplestiltskin. I wonder if that's what you intended.

I had no intention, as I began reading this thread, to post a reply to the post you two refer to here because that poster is so far down the rabbit hole of brain damage that it would be a waste of time. But for your information, I completely concur and nearly laughed my ass off when I read what he had to say. He is exactly what he projects onto others, a magnificent example of brain defectiveness on display.