So in the future... physical PCs will disappear?

Zeze

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Hmm.. I was thinking, 10 years ago, almost nobody saw the transforming power of bandwidth growth and what it meant.

We all thought Bluray would dominate our shelves just like DVD & VHS did. But this didn't happen because of the cloud computing came out of nowhere. The #1 bandwidth usage in homes are Netflix currently.

Also remember that cloud gaming console that you pay a flat monthly fee and they just live-feed any platform games to you? It wasn't a big success, but I can see where the future is going...

Internet bandwidth is only gonna get bigger and bigger.

In 10/20/30 years....

-Latency/ping will be virtually none in all services and streaming HD content will plateau since our eyes can only tell so much difference.

-This means having a physical PC tower will be useless. All your computing needs are done remotely by a super fast server. All you need is a very small palm-sized set-top box that transmits/receives your KB/mouse and monitor.

-Why build top-of-the-line PC for $1000-2000 anymore when you can just rent the computing box for $10-20 a month? Their remote PCs are always bleeding edge and constantly upgraded...

-We're gonna laugh at the days of ATX cases, motherboards, upgrading graphic cards, cooling fans, etc...

-Oh yea, enjoy your privacy. You thought 2011 internet privacy was bad?

What do you think?
 
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MikeMike

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without reading your probably normal trollish post (i can see: 'privacy' as a key word)... yes... they will...
 

HAL9000

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I completely agree, I actually wrote an essay on this not long ago, the client / server model as we know it is going out to be replaced with the "cloud computing" model. Give it time and owning you're own PC will just be for tinkerers.
 

Rifter

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it will never happen, there are bannwidth caps hitting most ISP's now so streaming will never get up to HD quality with the current caps in place. And anyone who has used netflix and then watched the same thing on blu-ray can tell you netflix has a LONG way to go to get to 1080p HD quality.

I would love to see streaming HD shows/movies hit mainstream but sppeds will need to increase alot as well as caps for that to even be possible let alone mainstream.
 

Zeze

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it will never happen, there are bannwidth caps hitting most ISP's now so streaming will never get up to HD quality with the current caps in place. And anyone who has used netflix and then watched the same thing on blu-ray can tell you netflix has a LONG way to go to get to 1080p HD quality.

I would love to see streaming HD shows/movies hit mainstream but sppeds will need to increase alot as well as caps for that to even be possible let alone mainstream.

Never huh? You know 30 years ago, it was 1980s... you know how primitive personal computers were back then?

Yeah... your short-sighted assessment will look quite horrid like the 80s when 2041 comes.
 
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Baconator Model T101

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There will always be people who want to keep their [pictures,videos,love letters, etc..] on their home machine in the way that people would want to keep their gold ingots in the safe at home rather than in the safe in the bank.
 

JMapleton

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I can see the service appearing, but it will take at least 20 years before bandwidth in the US permits it. We are way too slow in upgrading our bandwidth speeds.

But I think physical computers are here to stay for at least another 20 years because of privacy and security concerns.

If I had my choice, I would always choose to have a physical computer.

I think the "cloud computing" option may be one for low budget users probably 10 years from now.
 

SSSnail

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If you work in IT for a bank, and you think outsourcing your infrastructure to "cloud computing" is a wonderful idea - please chop off your penis as you don't need to breed.
 

QueBert

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There will always be people who want to keep their [pictures,videos,love letters, etc..] on their home machine in the way that people would want to keep their gold ingots in the safe at home rather than in the safe in the bank.

True, but if the industry decides it's time to move what can the people do? I wish for the life of me I could go to Frys or Best Buy and get a new CRT monitor, but I can't.
 
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If you work in IT for a bank, and you think outsourcing your infrastructure to "cloud computing" is a wonderful idea - please chop off your penis as you don't need to breed.


You're stating the obvious here. Cloud obviously won't replace internal bank servers, but it will very likely revolutionize the way homeusers interact with computers.
 

PlasmaBomb

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In 10/20/30 years....

-Latency/ping will be virtually none in all services and streaming HD content will plateau since our eyes can only tell so much difference.

What do you think?

In this house we obey the laws of physics...
 

Gibsons

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I completely agree, I actually wrote an essay on this not long ago, the client / server model as we know it is going out to be replaced with the "cloud computing" model. Give it time and owning you're own PC will just be for tinkerers.

Your.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Never huh? You know 30 years ago, it was 1980s... you know how primitive personal computers were back then?

Yeah... your short-sighted assessment will look quite horrid like the 80s when 2041 comes.

30 years ago physical PCs practically didn't exist. Everything was on the clould (Mainframes) and people just used terminals. Your assumption that progress must be towards PCless environments is funny. I bet you're still in shock there are no flying cars.
 

Anubis

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it will never happen, there are bannwidth caps hitting most ISP's now so streaming will never get up to HD quality with the current caps in place. And anyone who has used netflix and then watched the same thing on blu-ray can tell you netflix has a LONG way to go to get to 1080p HD quality.

I would love to see streaming HD shows/movies hit mainstream but sppeds will need to increase alot as well as caps for that to even be possible let alone mainstream.

agree

also the "cloud" isnt what kept BR from reaching DVD levels. it had more to do with the fact that HDTV penetration was really low when the format war ended and is still low (~50%), BR players cost 600$ when they were new and the majority of people see DVDs as good enough and dont want to repurchase all their movies
 

JulesMaximus

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Hmm.. I was thinking, 10 years ago, almost nobody saw the transforming power of bandwidth growth and what it meant.

We all thought Bluray would dominate our shelves just like DVD & VHS did. But this didn't happen because of the cloud computing came out of nowhere. The #1 bandwidth usage in homes are Netflix currently.

Also remember that cloud gaming console that you pay a flat monthly fee and they just live-feed any platform games to you? It wasn't a big success, but I can see where the future is going...

Internet bandwidth is only gonna get bigger and bigger.

In 10/20/30 years....

-Latency/ping will be virtually none in all services and streaming HD content will plateau since our eyes can only tell so much difference.

-This means having a physical PC tower will be useless. All your computing needs are done remotely by a super fast server. All you need is a very small palm-sized set-top box that transmits/receives your KB/mouse and monitor.

-Why build top-of-the-line PC for $1000-2000 anymore when you can just rent the computing box for $10-20 a month? Their remote PCs are always bleeding edge and constantly upgraded...

-We're gonna laugh at the days of ATX cases, motherboards, upgrading graphic cards, cooling fans, etc...

-Oh yea, enjoy your privacy. You thought 2011 internet privacy was bad?

What do you think?

In what business model is someone going to rent you a $1000 computer for $10/month? And continually upgrade it for you?
 

Texashiker

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What do you think?

I think companies are slow to keep with technology trends. Either they do not care to keep up, or they do see what the future might hold.

Here at my work we bought this huge flat panel TV for the conference room that was supposed to be facebook and twitter ready. Well, those are the only sites you can visit. Instead of having a full blown web browser, the TV has some kind of lame browser that only supports 2 or 3 sites.

Whats up with a tv that has a built in ethernet port, but does not have a web browser. In my eyes its pretty lame.

As for the future, I see the typical PC being pushed aside in favor of portable tablets. Why even watch netflicks on a TV, when you can stream video through a portable tablet? Go out on the back deck, bathroom, have a bar-b-q, and watch your favorite shows at the same time.

One of the issues that I have, I would like a tablet where I could post stuff on my blog from anywhere, and not from a smart phone. Lets say that I am out on a camping trip, and I want to upload a video to youtube from the side of a river. I would like to be able to film the video, edit it, and then upload it to youtube from a tablet. One of the issues is the cpu being able to edit 1080p HD videos that I filmed on my camera.
 

LurkerPrime

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just remote desktop from one computer to another in your home network. The input lag is still noticeable. I can't imagine how bad it would be if the computer doing the work was hundreds of miles away.

The "cloud" makes sense for storing data, not only as a back up, but for ease of access from multiple computer/locations. It doesn't make that much sense from a processing prospective unless you're trying to do calculations that surpass the abilities of a current desktop.
 

polarmystery

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The fact that you feel you can generalize all methods of computing to "computing boxes" is asinine and laughable.
 

Juddog

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The way that comcrap and other providers is artificially limiting bandwidth in the US, it will be a long long time before something like OP's post happens. The tech is already there today, which is the funny part, it's just tied up in red tape. When a better provider is offered by a town / city, the cable companies try to shut it down by using their pocket politicians.
 

IceBergSLiM

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I was kinda perplexed at you only coming to this realization now but then I saw you also though blu-ray would be dominant media format.
 

waffleironhead

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I think you are forgetting the fact that much of the country still does not have adequate bandwidth for this model to work. It will be a long time till the necessary infrastructure updates are made, if ever.