so im joining the ARRRRMMMYY

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: zanejohnson
i used to wake up everyday wanting to get high, now im clean and i find myself waking up everyday just wanting to see my family, i want to give them the things i never had so maybe they wont end up like me.

lulz, addiction never ends. the only way you don't start again is if you die too soon to start again. addicts never quit.

oh i beg the differ, now im always gonna have that "urge" to use, but as long as i stay strong and pro-active i wont have time/desire to..

that month of withdrawals i went to pretty much kicked my ass into submission... as long as i never have to feel that shitty again i'll be happy.

yeah, you know how many threads i see on the sober recovery forum about people who have been clean 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, and they relapsed? you're stuck with it man.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think they drug test

im clean right now.... talked to a recruiter all day today.

And the US Army has legal/moral standards for entry that you can't pass b/c you have a FELONY drug arrest (at least one that I remember that you posted here). Your past (the past that is public record b/c you were too stupid to not get caught) will prevent you from entering any branch of the US Armed Forces.

People can change...I know this. But, your PUBLIC record cannot be changed. Sorry...good luck to you in the private sector.

it was poss. of a controlled substance and it's a misdemeanor, i got lucky.


ive already talked to a recruiter, and he said none of my criminal history is enough to keep me out.

Really? Just "possession?" You got really lucky. Then again, you're probably lying. Just remember that Karma's a Bitch.

i was arrested in front of the office with some pills, i was on probation at the time for poss. of mary jane, it revoked my probation so i had to sit 32 days in jail (the remaining time i was probated for)

i STILL havent went to court for the pills, i went and talked to the judge today and she said she would waive it if i joined the service... so it's not just about job security and money, it's a way to get my life back on track, get a clean slate.... i cant pass this up.

I know your threads and your (allegedly) interesting history. If this is true, you need to do it. Seriously. Even if your wife leaves and takes the kid. I pay child support (and have for 12 damn years). If your life is that fucked up, and it surely appears to be judging by your threads (remember Karma, dude), you need a last chance, and this is it.

Next step is FPMITAP. No shit. Just fudge pack.

 

[zanejohnson]

they say hindsight is 20/20... i fucked up, i admit it, i was going nowhere.... what's so wrong about changing it... i'll take pics of me signing the papers tommorow.

 

[zanejohnson]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think they drug test

im clean right now.... talked to a recruiter all day today.

And the US Army has legal/moral standards for entry that you can't pass b/c you have a FELONY drug arrest (at least one that I remember that you posted here). Your past (the past that is public record b/c you were too stupid to not get caught) will prevent you from entering any branch of the US Armed Forces.

People can change...I know this. But, your PUBLIC record cannot be changed. Sorry...good luck to you in the private sector.

it was poss. of a controlled substance and it's a misdemeanor, i got lucky.


ive already talked to a recruiter, and he said none of my criminal history is enough to keep me out.

Really? Just "possession?" You got really lucky. Then again, you're probably lying. Just remember that Karma's a Bitch.

i was arrested in front of the office with some pills, i was on probation at the time for poss. of mary jane, it revoked my probation so i had to sit 32 days in jail (the remaining time i was probated for)

i STILL havent went to court for the pills, i went and talked to the judge today and she said she would waive it if i joined the service... so it's not just about job security and money, it's a way to get my life back on track, get a clean slate.... i cant pass this up.

I know your threads and your (allegedly) interesting history. If this is true, you need to do it. Seriously. Even if your wife leaves and takes the kid. I pay child support (and have for 12 damn years). If your life is that fucked up, and it surely appears to be judging by your threads (remember Karma, dude), you need a last chance, and this is it.

Next step is FPMITAP. No shit. Just fudge pack.

im glad you see it like i do...

i mean this is like my last chance to do something good, before i was blinded by drugs and the party life, i've grown up alot in the last month (as much as you can say you've grown up in a month) i went through HELL getting off the shit, but im clean, and i've got the urine to prove it, that was a HUGE step in itself.

 

[zanejohnson]

it's like im seeing things in a new light.

the song Andain - Beautiful things is so right on for the attitude i have now

"i forgot that i might see, so many, beautiful things, i forgot that i might need to find out, what life can bring."

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think they drug test

im clean right now....

Not a good choice of words for someone who has supposedly foresworn all drugs forever. :roll:

well it's like this, i've been on drugs, and now im clean, clean is better.... im not going back.

I would bet anything i own that you had a relapse and are now making shit up.

My clues are your behaviour, your sudden loss of spellcheck, your teenage drama replies.

I've met people like you in the service and trust me, the civilian penalties for drug abuse are extremely mild compared to what you would get in the service and it's mighty hard to explain an dishonorable discharge on your resumé when meeting an employer.

Stay clean for at least a year and then contemplate if this is what you want to do.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think they drug test

im clean right now....

Not a good choice of words for someone who has supposedly foresworn all drugs forever. :roll:

at least 2 times that we know about

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think they drug test

im clean right now.... talked to a recruiter all day today.

And the US Army has legal/moral standards for entry that you can't pass b/c you have a FELONY drug arrest (at least one that I remember that you posted here). Your past (the past that is public record b/c you were too stupid to not get caught) will prevent you from entering any branch of the US Armed Forces.

People can change...I know this. But, your PUBLIC record cannot be changed. Sorry...good luck to you in the private sector.

it was poss. of a controlled substance and it's a misdemeanor, i got lucky.


ive already talked to a recruiter, and he said none of my criminal history is enough to keep me out.

Really? Just "possession?" You got really lucky. Then again, you're probably lying. Just remember that Karma's a Bitch.

i was arrested in front of the office with some pills, i was on probation at the time for poss. of mary jane, it revoked my probation so i had to sit 32 days in jail (the remaining time i was probated for)

i STILL havent went to court for the pills, i went and talked to the judge today and she said she would waive it if i joined the service... so it's not just about job security and money, it's a way to get my life back on track, get a clean slate.... i cant pass this up.

I know your threads and your (allegedly) interesting history. If this is true, you need to do it. Seriously. Even if your wife leaves and takes the kid. I pay child support (and have for 12 damn years). If your life is that fucked up, and it surely appears to be judging by your threads (remember Karma, dude), you need a last chance, and this is it.

Next step is FPMITAP. No shit. Just fudge pack.

im glad you see it like i do...

i mean this is like my last chance to do something good, before i was blinded by drugs and the party life, i've grown up alot in the last month (as much as you can say you've grown up in a month) i went through HELL getting off the shit, but im clean, and i've got the urine to prove it, that was a HUGE step in itself.

Great! Good on you. Kicking any habit to the curb is hell. Three words: Don't_fuck_up.

Easy, right? Not. Not easy. However, joining the Army ASAP will eliminate any chance of you obtaining ANYTHING (even aspirin) for the next 4 months or so. By then, not only will you be medicinally clean, you'll be 10 pounds lighter and in the best physical shape of your life. And you'll be PROUD of yourself, as you should be.

Do it. PM in 5 months to LMK how you're doing. Really.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson
im glad you see it like i do...

i mean this is like my last chance to do something good, before i was blinded by drugs and the party life, i've grown up alot in the last month (as much as you can say you've grown up in a month) i went through HELL getting off the shit, but im clean, and i've got the urine to prove it, that was a HUGE step in itself.

:laugh:

 

[zanejohnson]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think they drug test

im clean right now....

Not a good choice of words for someone who has supposedly foresworn all drugs forever. :roll:

well it's like this, i've been on drugs, and now im clean, clean is better.... im not going back.

I would bet anything i own that you had a relapse and are now making shit up.

My clues are your behaviour, your sudden loss of spellcheck, your teenage drama replies.

I've met people like you in the service and trust me, the civilian penalties for drug abuse are extremely mild compared to what you would get in the service and it's mighty hard to explain an dishonorable discharge on your resumé when meeting an employer.

Stay clean for at least a year and then contemplate if this is what you want to do.

nah no relapse, but i dont expect you guys to believe that..

believe what you will..

 

[George P Burdell]

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[zanejohnson]

my father had a bad drug problem to, it took him 50 years to get over it, he lost everything, his family, his freedom, but he kicked it... i dont wanna be like that, and he told me he wishes he would have kicked it when he was young, so im gonna do it for him.

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson
my father had a bad drug problem to, it took him 50 years to get over it, he lost everything, his family, his freedom, but he kicked it... i dont wanna be like that, and he told me he wishes he would have kicked it when he was young, so im gonna do it for him.

well it's genetic so you're fucked. but good luck.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: JohnCU
dont you have a wife to take care of or something?

yeah and two kids, and this is a way i KNOW i can take care of them.

Not if you're dead.

OK lets say this thread WAS real (which we all know its probably made up bullshit)

But this assbag would take better care for his family if he were dead with the insurance his family would recieve from the military. In all actuality, he would be worth more dead than alive in terms of supporting a family.

Even if you do have a (possibly) valid point, that's still uncalled-for harsh.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson
it's like im seeing things in a new light.

the song Andain - Beautiful things is so right on for the attitude i have now

"i forgot that i might see, so many, beautiful things, i forgot that i might need to find out, what life can bring."

omg

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: zanejohnson
my father had a bad drug problem to, it took him 50 years to get over it, he lost everything, his family, his freedom, but he kicked it... i dont wanna be like that, and he told me he wishes he would have kicked it when he was young, so im gonna do it for him.

well it's genetic so you're fucked. but good luck.

It'd possible to stop addictions. The cravings will occasionally come back with varying intensity for a while, but you can stop if you have enough support/willpower.

I've known people who were alcoholics/heavy smokers who straightened up and quit forever. A little different from some more addictive drugs, but similar.

He may have a genetic predisposition towards addictive behavior if the above is true, but there is nothing that a determined human being cannot do (within reason).

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i think they drug test

im clean right now....

Not a good choice of words for someone who has supposedly foresworn all drugs forever. :roll:

well it's like this, i've been on drugs, and now im clean, clean is better.... im not going back.

I would bet anything i own that you had a relapse and are now making shit up.

My clues are your behaviour, your sudden loss of spellcheck, your teenage drama replies.

I've met people like you in the service and trust me, the civilian penalties for drug abuse are extremely mild compared to what you would get in the service and it's mighty hard to explain an dishonorable discharge on your resumé when meeting an employer.

Stay clean for at least a year and then contemplate if this is what you want to do.

nah no relapse, but i dont expect you guys to believe that..

believe what you will..

Well, i'm not "you guys" in fact i have never read or responded to a thread by you or a post of yours, this is the first one.

But i know what i see right here, the cries over old songtexts, the "oh i'm going to do this to make it right", going back to your fathers problems and how you don't want to be like that i know exactly what i see.

You can possibly fool yourself but not me, sorry, but either you are drunk as a skunk or high as a kite.

 

[LeadMagnet]

have fun,

 

[PhlashFoto]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: JohnCU
dont you have a wife to take care of or something?

yeah and two kids, and this is a way i KNOW i can take care of them.

Not if you're dead.

OK lets say this thread WAS real (which we all know its probably made up bullshit)

But this assbag would take better care for his family if he were dead with the insurance his family would recieve from the military. In all actuality, he would be worth more dead than alive in terms of supporting a family.

Nick, please tell us how you really feel; don't hold anything back. :laugh:

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Originally posted by: dreadpiratedoug

Originally posted by: zanejohnson

Originally posted by: Anubis
bull shit, they dont let in druggies with a felony record

believe it or not ive never had a felony.

Given your substantial background in drug use, you'll probably need a waiver to get in. On top of the waiver, you'll likely be on a probation and be severely restricted to your MOS.

Chances are you'll end up one of those people talking to my uncle trying to get out. He works with Section 8 classifications and such ... This one will be fun!

When I joined up in '92 and they did my background check and what not, admitting you used drugs was very serious and required waivers and MOS restriction.
I of course had never used as I was only 17 but they did explain to me the repercussions if I had answered questions with a yes answer.

 

[Perknose]

Look, Zane, I wish you well, I really, really do. I hope, for your sake, and especially for your family's sake, that you are now truly clean and that you somehow stay that way, but it is NOT easy.

Almost no one successfully kicks a hard drug habit on their own. That's what AA is for. You need this support and structure in the very worst way. I sincerely think you need a minimum of one year sober before going off and making any life-changing decisions like joining the service. In this, I fully agree with John of Sheffield.

Also, while basic is not nearly as bad as it can be portrayed, especially if you are mentally and emotionally prepared for it, it IS challenging. You shouldn't go into it in the fragile mental/emotional state you are in right now, no matter HOW much you believe you are suddenly A-OK. You are only one month removed from a full blown hard drug habit.

Finally, I continually detect WAY too many holes in your "game" to be sanguine about your chances.

My advice is to join AA stat and stick with it for one full year.

I have zero confidence that you'll take this advice, though.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Well, i'm not "you guys" in fact i have never read or responded to a thread by you or a post of yours, this is the first one.

But i know what i see right here, the cries over old songtexts, the "oh i'm going to do this to make it right", going back to your fathers problems and how you don't want to be like that i know exactly what i see.

You can possibly fool yourself but not me, sorry, but either you are drunk as a skunk or high as a kite.

Emotional desperation can look an awful lot like being drunk or high, JOS.

 

[randay]

yeah im going to join the arrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmyyy too.

 

[shortylickens]

HOORAY!
It'll be a long time before he can post again.

(Unless he gets kicked out of boot camp, which I'm betting on.)

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Well, i'm not "you guys" in fact i have never read or responded to a thread by you or a post of yours, this is the first one.

But i know what i see right here, the cries over old songtexts, the "oh i'm going to do this to make it right", going back to your fathers problems and how you don't want to be like that i know exactly what i see.

You can possibly fool yourself but not me, sorry, but either you are drunk as a skunk or high as a kite.

Emotional desperation can look an awful lot like being drunk or high, JOS.

I shouldn't be so quick to judge, iow? Point taken and appreciated.

zanejohnson, i'm really sorry if i am wrong about you, only you know though, and i'm only going by my experience which isn't all that great and has most to do with the military, so if i have misjudged you, you have my sincerest apologies for doing so.