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badnewcastle

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Originally posted by: jonks
Obama vs McCain is relevant here.

2008 link crashes my browser :(
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Ok, I will try to find the numbers for them...

But my issue isn't specific to this campaign, it's specific to the two different parties and how the republicans are constantly taking gut shots for accepting corporate donations.
 
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yes but the evil companies donate to the repugs while the good companies donate to the democrats
 
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Corporate money only knows one party...the one in power whatever session is about to come up. They will hedge their bets...but the larger bet is always on the controlling party.
 
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Corporations are losing millions because of the Bush disaster economy. Smart people know they have to get those worthless assholes out of office if the country is to thrive. There isn't any money in anti abortion and waving flags or much else the Republicans represent.
 
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Corporations are losing millions because of the Bush disaster economy. Smart people know they have to get those worthless assholes out of office if the country is to thrive. There isn't any money in anti abortion and waving flags or much else the Republicans represent.
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Oh there is plenty of money - it just ends up going to the top 1 % richest people in the US, because y'know - they just don't have enough money as it is.
 
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Because the Republicans claim that if the Dems are almost as bad as them means that the Republicans must be much better than the Dems.
 
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badnewcastle

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Corporations are losing millions because of the Bush disaster economy.
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I disagree that it is all Bush's fault here, I'm sure you'll debate that though.
Smart people know they have to get those worthless assholes out of office if the country is to thrive.
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This is just inflammatory.
There isn't any money in anti abortion and waving flags or much else the Republicans represent.
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I don't disagree with you but I do want to add that it's a two way street... and spending money on either side, which both sides do, is a waste.

 
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Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Corporations are losing millions because of the Bush disaster economy. Smart people know they have to get those worthless assholes out of office if the country is to thrive. There isn't any money in anti abortion and waving flags or much else the Republicans represent.
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Oh there is plenty of money - it just ends up going to the top 1 % richest people in the US, because y'know - they just don't have enough money as it is.
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I think that smart business people know that when 1% have everything and 99% have nothing you have a third world country where business is poor at best.
 
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That's what I've been saying all along. He had more than ROMNEY for crying out loud. Everyone thinks obama is this grass roots guy...he's not...he's owned by corporations more than any other candidate in HISTORY. Yet he claims to be different? Bull.
 
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Originally posted by: badnewcastle
I understand that but I don't get why people are so much more vocal about the Rupublicans then they are about dems...
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Probably because Dems claim to want to reform lobbying (Obama speaks on this issue a lot) and McCain's campaign is filled with former lobbyists who he calls "honorable people", and his position is that he takes lobbyist money but won't let it influence his decisions. Obama fudges a little with his definition of lobbyists/PACs, but he seems to be more anti-lobbist than McCain.

Originally posted by: DomS
That's what I've been saying all along. He had more than ROMNEY for crying out loud. Everyone thinks obama is this grass roots guy...he's not...he's owned by corporations more than any other candidate in HISTORY. Yet he claims to be different? Bull.
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Cow. And his campaign has been funded more by public contributions than any candidate in history.
 
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quick note: most large corporations donate to both campaigns, basically hedging their bets..thought I'd throw that in too
 
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Originally posted by: badnewcastle
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Corporations are losing millions because of the Bush disaster economy.
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I disagree that it is all Bush's fault here, I'm sure you'll debate that though.
Smart people know they have to get those worthless assholes out of office if the country is to thrive.
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This is just inflammatory.
There isn't any money in anti abortion and waving flags or much else the Republicans represent.
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I don't disagree with you but I do want to add that it's a two way street... and spending money on either side, which both sides do, is a waste.
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Not all Bush's fault. He had help from a Republican congress of graft greed and corruption, with a little sexual perversion thrown in on the side.

Inflammatory? You mean Bush burning the wealth of the nation?

I have no problem spending money that makes more money down the road. That is what democrats do when they bolster the middle class and create upward mobility via competitive infrastructure and social support.
 
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badnewcastle

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: badnewcastle
DEMS HAVE RECEIVE MORE CORPORATE DONATIONS THEN THE REPUBLICANS...

I DON'T GET IT.
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And your link title is incorrect. Republicans receive far and away more corporate special interest money than Democrats; and ...
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hmm... corporations, lobbies... is it better either way?

Democrats receive far and away more money from Labor than Republicans.
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some could argue that labor unions are just as evil as corporations...


Nobody likes it but that's the way it is ....
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You know a lot of people blame the rich for taking too much money but raising taxes on people making more then $250,000 a year is just going to hurt the small business people more then the big companies or the super rich. The people that employ me and some of you will be hurt and they will struggle to keep us employed. That's where I'm coming from... not necessarily in defense of the biggest companies but in defense of the companies similar and smaller to the one I work for, which is less then 400 people.
 
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badnewcastle

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam


Not all Bush's fault. He had help from a Republican congress of graft greed and corruption, with a little sexual perversion thrown in on the side.
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I'm sure the last 4 to 6 years of democratic congress and senate didn't help either.

Inflammatory? You mean Bush burning the wealth of the nation?
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No, I mean you have a disrespectful way of making a point that has very little basis.

I have no problem spending money that makes more money down the road. That is what democrats do when they bolster the middle class and create upward mobility via competitive infrastructure and social support.
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They don't want to make more down the road, they want to take more and spread it more evenly, which is just socialism and not what this country is based on.





 
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