So I'm about to install my Wolfdale CPU

[Bateluer]

I currently have an E6600 with a stock Intel cooler installed. My Wolfdale arrived today, also a retail package with a stock cooler.

Given that I don't do much OCing at all, should I install the Wolfdale with its stock cooler or reuse the Conroe's cooler? I believe the coolers have identical mounting and compatibility, but I haven't verified it yet. It might be more advantageous, since I will probably attempt sell the E6600 on the FS/T forum, to keep its cooler with the CPU?

 

[cubeless]

i believe that the 6600 cooler is a little beefier (bigger copper slug) than the wolfy's... if u don't oc the stock wolfy hsf will be fine for it...

the 6600 buyer will be happier with the cooler that came with it...

 

[nyker96]

I'd still get yaself a nicer one like AC freezer 7 pro//Hyper TX 2. Just to keep it nice and cool even at stock. Those Intel coolers just seem too skimpy.

 

[Bateluer]

Well, I went with the stock cooler. Haven't checked temps outside the BIOS yet, but it seems to run a little warmer. Granted its 3.16Ghz compared to 2.4Ghz before.

Apparently, some of my RAM bit the dust though. I can only boot the system with my Geil stocks, not my Musking sticks. The Muskins are a year older, and I've had problems with them before. Might be time to pick up some better sticks anyway. I know this Abit board is a finicky thing.

 

[GundamF91]

Bateluer, were you overvolting the Mushkin sticks? I've had mine at 1.8v and so far so good.

As for HSF, Conroe's better, but you might as well get a better aftermarket HSF.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: GundamF91
Bateluer, were you overvolting the Mushkin sticks? I've had mine at 1.8v and so far so good.

As for HSF, Conroe's better, but you might as well get a better aftermarket HSF.

Not to my knowledge, I was leaving the control of the RAM voltages and timings in the hands of the BIOS. This is the Mushkin RAM that I have. Its rated voltage is 1.9 to 2.1.

Here's the complete story though about the memory that I just posted at the Abit Forums. This IN9 has been a very finicky motherboard for me. I wish I had gone with my instincts in Feb 07 when I bought it and gone with an Intel Asus board, the reason I didn't was that none of their models at the time offered enough SATA ports.

This IN9 has been finicky for a while now, usually whenever I try to install a new device in the case. It had problems when I swapped out a PATA drive for a SATA drive, where it would display the error code of C1 and would only boot with 2x1GB of RAM installed. After much fiddling, and reflashing with the 1.4 bios, I got it to boot with all 4x1GB sticks.

Today, I flashed to the 1.5 Bios, booted into Vista with out a problem. There didn't seem to be any problems, so I powered down the system and installed a new Wolfdale E8500. Immediately, I get an error code C1 and a steady monotonous beep code. The C1 error code relates to memory autodetection, according to the manual.

I have two different brands of DDR2 in this system, Mushkin and Geil. The Mushkin is older by a year, I installed the Geil in late October 2007. If I remove the Mushkin, the system posts and boots just fine. Remove the Geil and install the Muskin, and the system halts during the memory speed checks during the post, highlighting one of the memory timings in red. The system becomes nonresponsive after that, and I have to do a hard reset. Remove the Mushkin and install the Geil again, and the system boots just fine.

Normally, this would suggest faulty RAM to me, however, I've been running with all 4 sticks installed since october. Aside from the issues a month ago when I switched DVDROM drives, there hasn't been any problems. And once it successfully boots, there's no stability problems in windows at all. I should also note that I'm not doing any OCing and leaving most of the CPU/RAM speeds in the BIOS on auto.

At the moment, my plans are to sleep on it. Then, tomorrow, I'll try reflashing back to the 1.4 BIOS and see how that works out. If it works under the 1.4 bios, I'll stay there. If not, then I'll likely pick up some 2x2GB sticks. My policy of never downgrading or side-grading can be harsh sometimes.

Edit - This is the CPU cooler I was considering. I am going to wait a bit though and pick up an Arctic Cooling Twin Turbo VGA cooler for my 4870.

 

[Bateluer]

I think I fixed it. What I thought was Geil was actually SuperTalent, my mistake. They both have similar color heat sinks. With the SuperTalent installed, I manually set the timings to 5-5-5-15 and the DDR2 voltage to 2.0V. The system booted. I shutdown and installed the Mushkin, and again the system booted. I then tightened up the timings to 4-4-4-12, the system still booted up normally. I have no idea why the system booted without a problem letting the motherboard set the timings to 5-5-5-15 and 1.8V in the past, but meh, its working now.

And I almost had an excuse to upgrade to 8GB.

 

[TridenT]

Uh, what CPU did you get? I know for fact that the E7200 cooler is VERY SMALL in comparison to the E6300 cooler. (I assume E6600 is same)

EDIT: I see 3.16Ghz, is that the E8500?

 

[GundamF91]

all new 45nm stock HSF are smaller than 65nm ones. Partly it's about cooler Penryns, but there's no reason to not use Conroe HSF if you got them.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

EDIT: I see 3.16Ghz, is that the E8500?

Yes.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

EDIT: I see 3.16Ghz, is that the E8500?

Yes.

schweet

 

[daveybrat]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: GundamF91
Bateluer, were you overvolting the Mushkin sticks? I've had mine at 1.8v and so far so good.

As for HSF, Conroe's better, but you might as well get a better aftermarket HSF.

Not to my knowledge, I was leaving the control of the RAM voltages and timings in the hands of the BIOS. This is the Mushkin RAM that I have. Its rated voltage is 1.9 to 2.1.

Here's the complete story though about the memory that I just posted at the Abit Forums. This IN9 has been a very finicky motherboard for me. I wish I had gone with my instincts in Feb 07 when I bought it and gone with an Intel Asus board, the reason I didn't was that none of their models at the time offered enough SATA ports.

This IN9 has been finicky for a while now, usually whenever I try to install a new device in the case. It had problems when I swapped out a PATA drive for a SATA drive, where it would display the error code of C1 and would only boot with 2x1GB of RAM installed. After much fiddling, and reflashing with the 1.4 bios, I got it to boot with all 4x1GB sticks.

Today, I flashed to the 1.5 Bios, booted into Vista with out a problem. There didn't seem to be any problems, so I powered down the system and installed a new Wolfdale E8500. Immediately, I get an error code C1 and a steady monotonous beep code. The C1 error code relates to memory autodetection, according to the manual.

I have two different brands of DDR2 in this system, Mushkin and Geil. The Mushkin is older by a year, I installed the Geil in late October 2007. If I remove the Mushkin, the system posts and boots just fine. Remove the Geil and install the Muskin, and the system halts during the memory speed checks during the post, highlighting one of the memory timings in red. The system becomes nonresponsive after that, and I have to do a hard reset. Remove the Mushkin and install the Geil again, and the system boots just fine.

Normally, this would suggest faulty RAM to me, however, I've been running with all 4 sticks installed since october. Aside from the issues a month ago when I switched DVDROM drives, there hasn't been any problems. And once it successfully boots, there's no stability problems in windows at all. I should also note that I'm not doing any OCing and leaving most of the CPU/RAM speeds in the BIOS on auto.

At the moment, my plans are to sleep on it. Then, tomorrow, I'll try reflashing back to the 1.4 BIOS and see how that works out. If it works under the 1.4 bios, I'll stay there. If not, then I'll likely pick up some 2x2GB sticks. My policy of never downgrading or side-grading can be harsh sometimes.

Edit - This is the CPU cooler I was considering. I am going to wait a bit though and pick up an Arctic Cooling Twin Turbo VGA cooler for my 4870.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835186134

This is my favorite cooler for socket 775. I've used several and they are awesome. Keeps the cpu extremely cool.

 

[TridenT]

Originally posted by: daveybrat

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835186134

This is my favorite cooler for socket 775. I've used several and they are awesome. Keeps the cpu extremely cool.

Definitely wait though.. I've seen those go for 27$ w/ free shipping. (Actually seen them go for 20$! But that probably won't happen)

Best cooler on a budget for sure.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555

Originally posted by: daveybrat

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835186134

This is my favorite cooler for socket 775. I've used several and they are awesome. Keeps the cpu extremely cool.

Definitely wait though.. I've seen those go for 27$ w/ free shipping. (Actually seen them go for 20$! But that probably won't happen)

Best cooler on a budget for sure.

I had one of those on my old X2 4200, it was a decent cooler, sold it with the X2.

Cooling is a challenge for me, this is Phoenix Arizona. Its 110 out right now, my apartment is usually kept at ~80F to keep the electric bill manageable.