I know it's too late since you already purchased z370 motherboard and locked into buying intel CPU but there is a reason why people (me including) recommended AMD 3600 first and foremost. It's because AMD 3600 is Zen2 core and it has equivalent performance to the Coffee Lake aka i3-9100f/i5-9400f. The post from OCN compares i3 9100f vs 3200g, 3200g is Zen+ core which does lose against intel in single thread performance. However Zen2 processors including AMD 3600 are on par with intel in single thread performance now.An update for everyone. I bought a msi z370 board for under my budget. This will give me an extra 15$ to go to the cpu
But so everyone is on the right page
this was posted on anther site. the game I play M&B is extremely poorlymade and realy hits one core hard.
So yeah I really need something with max single core performance. The system is also striped out from the OS end so having more cores for background stuff is not really needed for me. I would never use more then 4 cores, I never have and I harder ever use more then 2. so getting a 6 core with slightly less single core perofmace is a BAD idea.
I know it's too late since you already purchased z370 motherboard and locked into buying intel CPU but there is a reason why people (me including) recommended AMD 3600 first and foremost. It's because AMD 3600 is Zen2 core and it has equivalent performance to the Coffee Lake aka i3-9100f/i5-9400f. The post from OCN compares i3 9100f vs 3200g, 3200g is Zen+ core which does lose against intel in single thread performance. However Zen2 processors including AMD 3600 are on par with intel in single thread performance now.
That's a thread from 2017 about very first Zen release. Do you have any links to Zen2 results?Not in draw calls, which is the defining performance factor in games with complex scenes. Zen 2 is still slower than xLake at the same clocks, while also not being able to clock as high. Never mind the CCX penalty. See this thread for reference: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/part-2-measuring-cpu-draw-call-performance.2499609/
That's a thread from 2017 about very first Zen release. Do you have any links to Zen2 results?
Thanks for the info. Looks like AMD is still somewhat behind.In the game draw call test, aye we do: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...nce-in-fallout-4.2548618/page-3#post-39906780
Even though Fallout 4 scales up to eight threads, the Zen 2 processor still was at a loss versus a quad core xLake with hyperthreading in scenes with many draw calls.
Eh, I was a die hard Lode Runner fan. Played that for a long time on my 1Mhz 6502... Times change and I've moved on.My tases in games have not changed since 2011 when M&B came out and its not changing, new games suck ass and M&B is the only new game I'll ever play.
My tases in games have not changed since 2011 when M&B came out and its not changing, new games suck ass and M&B is the only new game I'll ever play.
i7 7800x - you couldn't get any worseOK a update. I ran into some money and a x299 board. so I'm selling the z370 board I have and getting a 7800x.
OK a update. I ran into some money and a x299 board. so I'm selling the z370 board I have and getting a 7800x.
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Is this one of those BS threads that's just to get silly comments from others?
If not it's not best to make buying decisions when one is high or extremely drunk.
OK a update. I ran into some money and a x299 board. so I'm selling the z370 board I have and getting a 7800x.
Couldn't it be possible he doesn't know any better? He's here to get help, after all, and here we have everyone crucifying him without knowing all the details.
Sell the x299 and forget about the 7800X (should get ~$100 minimum for the x299, and save $400-600 on the 7800X). With that $500 you can:OK a update. I ran into some money and a x299 board. so I'm selling the z370 board I have and getting a 7800x.
LOL the dude had a specific goal and a specific budget of $195. He got excellent advice here on how to get the best value out of his money. Then he goes and blows his budget spending twice what he originally wanted on a CPU that is opposite of what he said he wanted (fastest single thread performance). He had two requirements - stay under $195 and fastest Single Thread, against everyone's advice he got something that is neither. Yeah, he's a troll.Couldn't it be possible he doesn't know any better? He's here to get help, after all, and here we have everyone crucifying him without knowing all the details.
I asked this on another site, but it turned out to be a troll pit and I was chewed and and had to delete my account.
Anyway my budget for the CPU is around 120$ and around 75$ for a mATX or ITX motherboard.
I'm not sure if this was troll post or not, but I think everyone can agree it was definitely an entertaining thread.LOL the dude had a specific goal and a specific budget of $195. He got excellent advice here on how to get the best value out of his money. Then he goes and blows his budget spending twice what he originally wanted on a CPU that is opposite of what he said he wanted (fastest single thread performance). He had two requirements - stay under $195 and fastest Single Thread, against everyone's advice he got something that is neither. Yeah, he's a troll.
