Right... Jews declared war on Hitler. Jews eventually got rounded up, deported, and some of them eventually killed by Hitler...
Whos logic are we using? Because you aren't using my logic.
Right... Jews declared war on Hitler. Jews eventually got rounded up, deported, and some of them eventually killed by Hitler...
Whos logic are we using? Because you aren't using my logic.
The shelling is an offensive measure on the sources of fire, which, somehow, originates out residential areas.... makes you wonder...
Declared war?
I suppose Hitler was all praises and compliments about Jews prior to that "declaration of war".
Give it up, buddy -- you're grasping at staws.
No, it's a known fact that they fire out of residential areas.
Also, their rockets are aimed at cities and towns, and not military targets, and that's also a fact.
You can try and spin it any way you want, but they are firing on civilians, hoping to kill civilians, while they are located amidst their own civilians, hoping their own civilians will get hit when fire is returned.
Like I said, we saw that last week when they shipped their women to the masque to act as a human shield. Care to spin that one?
Well it is Israel whom we give or sell all our technology to. Maybe we should donate billions to Hezbollah and they too can buy high tech navigational equipment to guide their missile to military targets.
By the way, slow down with the new reply button. Nobody wants to see your name/usericon 84372 times in a thread. If you want to respond to more than 1 message, quote them and put your answer in one reply.
Trying to patronize me -- how cute.....
Here, this link provides references to remakrs that Hitler made regarding the Jews -- well before 1933, and as early as 1920:
Some Jews figured out that Hitler was serious about this business and decided to act in some way or another. The smart ones -- and with the means to leave -- emigrated after Hitler got into power.
I think a bigger problem is people quoting nested quotes, one after another, and then I end up scrolling two screens just to see a single-line reply.
People should quote what they are replying to and no more -- just like I did with this message.
EDIT: BTW, go ahead, sell them the equipment, and you'll see it coming back to hit like a boomerang.
lozina
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Ah yes, the words game.
"Oh we're only targetting militants while they're targetting civilians!"
Words are meaningless. It's action that counts.
And the action is civilians dying. That's the fact.
The Palesitinian militants kill civilians, and so does the Israeli army. What they say afterwards makes no difference to the deaf ears of the people who are killed. Try it, go up to a dead Palestinian child and tell them that artillery shell was really meant for a militant, or was in error. See if it makes any difference.
Wow, you really have nothing to argue with, why else would you attempt to evoke an emotional response, e.g. "dead child".
Perhaps you missed the story with the women, so here it is; they are putting their own people in harms way, intentionally. And if that doesn't work out, then they just fabricate it.
Perhaps you missed the story with the women, so here it is; they are putting their own people in harms way, intentionally. And if that doesn't work out, then they just fabricate it.
Sure, Hitler didn't like Jews. He made it well known years before he was elected... That's not what I was talking about, but nice diversion. All I'm saying is the Jews weren't exactly innocent either... Hitler made it known he didn't like Jews, and when he was elected, the Jews declared war on him...
So once again... I fail to see how your logic applies to Muslims and Danish people. If Muslim's declared war on Danish, and the Danish fought back (regardless if Danish liked Muslims prior to the incident or not) I wouldn't call the Muslims innocent either...
Why are we still discussing it?
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The responsibity of the military is to protect the civilians.
By Hamas deliberately locating weapon firing locations within the civilian area; they are exposing their civilians deliberately or hoping the Isreal will not respond.
By Hamas requesting the civilians to protect their military; it demonstrates that they are using the civilians for their own means and do not have concerns aboutthe welfare of the civilians.
From the AP
Sounds like if Hamas wants to stop sending rockets, Isreal will stop. Otherwise, the status quo will continue. Again it seems as if the Palestinians have a choice.
Seems like we should support our allies. Hamas has plenty of support from ISrael's enemies and their allies.
By Hamas deliberately locating weapon firing locations within the civilian area; they are exposing their civilians deliberately or hoping the Isreal will not respond.
By Hamas requesting the civilians to protect their military; it demonstrates that they are using the civilians for their own means and do not have concerns aboutthe welfare of the civilians.
From the AP
Sounds like if Hamas wants to stop sending rockets, Isreal will stop. Otherwise, the status quo will continue. Again it seems as if the Palestinians have a choice.
Hamas is supported by the Arab League & that group was well supported by China/Iran/NK/Soviet, etc.
Seems like we should support our allies. Hamas has plenty of support from ISrael's enemies and their allies.
Because of your ridicilous attempt at misrepresnting history, and assigning a new meaning to "declared war".
And, yeah, if we used your logic, I'd say the post cartoon actions are much closer to a "declaration of war", as they go beyond a boycott, and end up with death threats and a few burnt embassies.
The whole muslim/danish bit is just to show you how absurd your argument is -- i.e. "not so innocent" -- but I see that it's not getting through.
lozina
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Yep, that explains why that rock thrown at the Israeli tank had "Made in China" written on it! Those bastards...
Yeah all those Israeli tanks being taken out by Soviet RPGs like the ones Hezbollah have, and the Israeli choppers being taken out by SA7's... oh wait. Palestinians don't have anything like that whoops.
Did you catch the Moonbeam influenza?
Whether I am or not has no relevance to the discussion; you are merely sidetracking the discussion, thus avoiding having to give us an explanation how you ended up subscribing to this "declared war" theory.
I could very well ask you if you are black (like your icon), and then start hypothesizing about your motives, but it would serve no purpose.
I'm not surprised either. Insight drawn from deep introspection is as rare as hens teeth and even more so on a board that attracts intellectual nerds. What is surprising perhaps is that they even notice me at all. Those I seem to offend are at least sufficiently self aware as to have their consciences pricked. They have at least some modicum of embarrassment. You can't affect the stone dead.
Because people ask a question does not mean they are capable of understanding the answer.
We are still discussing this as you are misrepresenting the actions of the jews at the time. You keep on stating that "...he Jews declared war...", but from the article....
"The whole of Israel throughout the world is uniting to declare an economic and financial war on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as the symbol of the new Germany has revived the old war symbol of Judas to new life. Fourteen million Jews scattered over the entire world are tight to each other as if one man, in order to declare war against the German persecutors of their fellow believers.
The Jewish wholesaler will quit his house, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his business, and the beggar his humble hut, in order to join the holy war against Hitler's people."
This "war" that you refer to was not a physicial war with violence (as is the normal usage of the word), but an economic embargo. So by your argument, because the Jews were withdrawing their economic services, that partially justifies the actions taken against them by Germany.
This would be like a company boss justifying bashing up his workers that are on strike (having withdrawn their labour).
Orignal Earl
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I'm no mil expert, but this tactic would probably force more bad guys to attack from non-open areas, no?
It's their choice to attack from populated areas, and the civilians in those areas are their responsibility.
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Hamas refuses to accept responsibility for their civilians. And others are willing to turn a blind eye and accept that attitude.
Hoever, it is not OK when Isreal accepts responsibility for their civilians.
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