So I was thinking 'bout heating this winter...

imported_goku

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Ok so I was wondering, since people generally have body fat to keep themselves warm and for energy when there isn't any available for the time being, should more people consider lyposuction? Maybe using a machine that effectively turns the 'burnt' calories into stored electricity? I ask this because I was wondering, how many BTUs or potentially 'watts' are in 1LB of human fat. Quite possibly this winter, I would be better burning off body fat either in the form of stored electricity or BTUs in a furnace than just keeping it on my body in a halfassed attempt at keeping my self warm.

What do you think? Could I use body fat from lyposuction to keep myself warm? heating for the house this winter???
 

ForumMaster

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i hope you're kidding. i suppose you could burn the fat but there is no practical way I'm aware of to convert fat to electricity.
 

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Originally posted by: ForumMaster
i hope you're kidding. i suppose you could burn the fat but there is no practical way I'm aware of to convert fat to electricity.

qft
 

Colt45

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Originally posted by: ForumMaster
i hope you're kidding. i suppose you could burn the fat but there is no practical way I'm aware of to convert fat to electricity.

how do you figure most any power plant works?

burn the coal/oil/gas/fat/wood/grain/etc, boil water, turn turbine.

 

funboy6942

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I read somewhere that if you keep your house cold you will burn callories at night while you sleep. Your body burns them up trying to keep you warm and in turn you kinda lose weight as you sleep. My home is set to 65 :D
 

Midlander

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Ride an exercise bike. That converts fat directly to heat. And you save money on the surgery.
 

Gibsons

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A liposuction surgery would probably require a few tons of fat worth of electricity to recoup costs. Turn your thermostat down and exercise as suggested above, you'll turn fat into heat.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: Kilgor
You could use the grey matter in your head, it's not being used.

Unfortunately, that would only fuel a candle for about 3 seconds.
But it would warm my heart if he did it.
 

Rubycon

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Environmental disaster.

Robert Service knew all too well -

Then I made a hike, for I didn?t like to hear him sizzle so;
And the heavens scowled, and the huskies howled, and the wind began to blow.
It was icy cold, but the hot sweat rolled down my cheeks, and I don?t know why;
And the greasy smoke in an inky cloak went streaking down the sky.

Look up The Cremation of Sam McGee.

Point is burning flesh STINKS.

This is why I don't like open pit beef. You can taste the singed flesh in the smoke carrying far from the pit. I can watch horror flicks all day but a whiff of that turns my stomach.
 

imported_goku

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Environmental disaster.

Robert Service knew all too well -

Then I made a hike, for I didn?t like to hear him sizzle so;
And the heavens scowled, and the huskies howled, and the wind began to blow.
It was icy cold, but the hot sweat rolled down my cheeks, and I don?t know why;
And the greasy smoke in an inky cloak went streaking down the sky.

Look up The Cremation of Sam McGee.

Point is burning flesh STINKS.

This is why I don't like open pit beef. You can taste the singed flesh in the smoke carrying far from the pit. I can watch horror flicks all day but a whiff of that turns my stomach.

Um, isn't burning fat and burning flesh albiet different? Also wouldn't it be possible to do lyposuction with out the use of electricity? Human ran pump? Does anyone know how many BTUs are in a LB of fat? In my experience when the temps go down, I actually gain weight but when they go up like in the summer, I usually lose weight. Maybe there is an exercise machine or something of the sort that could convert torque outputted from a bicycle into electricity and then that could be stored in a form of heat or something.....?
 

Captante

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Environmental disaster.

Robert Service knew all too well -

Then I made a hike, for I didn?t like to hear him sizzle so;
And the heavens scowled, and the huskies howled, and the wind began to blow.
It was icy cold, but the hot sweat rolled down my cheeks, and I don?t know why;
And the greasy smoke in an inky cloak went streaking down the sky.

Look up The Cremation of Sam McGee.

Point is burning flesh STINKS.

This is why I don't like open pit beef. You can taste the singed flesh in the smoke carrying far from the pit. I can watch horror flicks all day but a whiff of that turns my stomach.


Yummm! Burning flesh!!! :p (I love open-pit beef/pork etc)
 

neutralizer

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The body's metabolism of energy is much more efficient than any man-made machine. So I'm sure the body is more efficient in consuming fat for heat than burning it.
 

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well, first off metabolism is only about 40% efficient which is around the same number for a coal burning power plant, so the body is no more efficient than other methods. Second, converting anything to heat is ~100% efficient. Converting fat to heat is really really easy, i take a match and light the fat on fire. Although, this clearly cannot be even a remotely serious question since a pound of fat is only a tiny amount of energy compared to what a house normally uses in a day. Maybe if you were 100 lbs overweight and you removed all that fat and burned it you could get one free day of heating for your house, but thats about it. The thought is just completely ludicrous. I'm not sure if this is a parody thread or not, but either way it jsut doesn't make sense.

EDIT: so i did like 10 seconds of research and went to a site that said you need to burn 4,000,000 calories to lose a pound of fat, that converts to 4.65kWh. Thats what, like 30 cents of electricity?
 

imported_goku

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
well, first off metabolism is only about 40% efficient which is around the same number for a coal burning power plant, so the body is no more efficient than other methods. Second, converting anything to heat is ~100% efficient. Converting fat to heat is really really easy, i take a match and light the fat on fire. Although, this clearly cannot be even a remotely serious question since a pound of fat is only a tiny amount of energy compared to what a house normally uses in a day. Maybe if you were 100 lbs overweight and you removed all that fat and burned it you could get one free day of heating for your house, but thats about it. The thought is just completely ludicrous. I'm not sure if this is a parody thread or not, but either way it jsut doesn't make sense.

EDIT: so i did like 10 seconds of research and went to a site that said you need to burn 4,000,000 calories to lose a pound of fat, that converts to 4.65kWh. Thats what, like 30 cents of electricity?

Well your research is wrong because 3500 calories=1LB of fat FYI.
 

Midlander

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Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: BrownTown
well, first off metabolism is only about 40% efficient which is around the same number for a coal burning power plant, so the body is no more efficient than other methods. Second, converting anything to heat is ~100% efficient. Converting fat to heat is really really easy, i take a match and light the fat on fire. Although, this clearly cannot be even a remotely serious question since a pound of fat is only a tiny amount of energy compared to what a house normally uses in a day. Maybe if you were 100 lbs overweight and you removed all that fat and burned it you could get one free day of heating for your house, but thats about it. The thought is just completely ludicrous. I'm not sure if this is a parody thread or not, but either way it jsut doesn't make sense.

EDIT: so i did like 10 seconds of research and went to a site that said you need to burn 4,000,000 calories to lose a pound of fat, that converts to 4.65kWh. Thats what, like 30 cents of electricity?

Well your research is wrong because 3500 calories=1LB of fat FYI.

Calories in food are really kilocalories.
 

confused1234

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Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: BrownTown
well, first off metabolism is only about 40% efficient which is around the same number for a coal burning power plant, so the body is no more efficient than other methods. Second, converting anything to heat is ~100% efficient. Converting fat to heat is really really easy, i take a match and light the fat on fire. Although, this clearly cannot be even a remotely serious question since a pound of fat is only a tiny amount of energy compared to what a house normally uses in a day. Maybe if you were 100 lbs overweight and you removed all that fat and burned it you could get one free day of heating for your house, but thats about it. The thought is just completely ludicrous. I'm not sure if this is a parody thread or not, but either way it jsut doesn't make sense.

EDIT: so i did like 10 seconds of research and went to a site that said you need to burn 4,000,000 calories to lose a pound of fat, that converts to 4.65kWh. Thats what, like 30 cents of electricity?

Well your research is wrong because 3500 calories=1LB of fat FYI.

lol ya i thought something was amiss when he said 4,000,000 calories to burn one pound of fat. but maybe he is taking into the account that when you exercise you burn very little fat until most of your glycogen burns up then you start to burn more fat for energy
 

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Originally posted by: Midlander
Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: BrownTown
well, first off metabolism is only about 40% efficient which is around the same number for a coal burning power plant, so the body is no more efficient than other methods. Second, converting anything to heat is ~100% efficient. Converting fat to heat is really really easy, i take a match and light the fat on fire. Although, this clearly cannot be even a remotely serious question since a pound of fat is only a tiny amount of energy compared to what a house normally uses in a day. Maybe if you were 100 lbs overweight and you removed all that fat and burned it you could get one free day of heating for your house, but thats about it. The thought is just completely ludicrous. I'm not sure if this is a parody thread or not, but either way it jsut doesn't make sense.

EDIT: so i did like 10 seconds of research and went to a site that said you need to burn 4,000,000 calories to lose a pound of fat, that converts to 4.65kWh. Thats what, like 30 cents of electricity?

Well your research is wrong because 3500 calories=1LB of fat FYI.

Calories in food are really kilocalories.

1 Calorie = 1000 calories
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: confused1234
Originally posted by: Midlander
Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: BrownTown
well, first off metabolism is only about 40% efficient which is around the same number for a coal burning power plant, so the body is no more efficient than other methods. Second, converting anything to heat is ~100% efficient. Converting fat to heat is really really easy, i take a match and light the fat on fire. Although, this clearly cannot be even a remotely serious question since a pound of fat is only a tiny amount of energy compared to what a house normally uses in a day. Maybe if you were 100 lbs overweight and you removed all that fat and burned it you could get one free day of heating for your house, but thats about it. The thought is just completely ludicrous. I'm not sure if this is a parody thread or not, but either way it jsut doesn't make sense.

EDIT: so i did like 10 seconds of research and went to a site that said you need to burn 4,000,000 calories to lose a pound of fat, that converts to 4.65kWh. Thats what, like 30 cents of electricity?

Well your research is wrong because 3500 calories=1LB of fat FYI.

Calories in food are really kilocalories.

1 Calorie = 1000 calories

Nice. Goku, have you even seen a chemistry book?

An active person requires 3500 calories per day to stay fit, which relates to roughly 4000 watts in 24 hours (1 food calorie = 1.16 watt-hour).
5 seconds of Google FTW
 

imported_goku

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Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: confused1234
Originally posted by: Midlander
Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: BrownTown
well, first off metabolism is only about 40% efficient which is around the same number for a coal burning power plant, so the body is no more efficient than other methods. Second, converting anything to heat is ~100% efficient. Converting fat to heat is really really easy, i take a match and light the fat on fire. Although, this clearly cannot be even a remotely serious question since a pound of fat is only a tiny amount of energy compared to what a house normally uses in a day. Maybe if you were 100 lbs overweight and you removed all that fat and burned it you could get one free day of heating for your house, but thats about it. The thought is just completely ludicrous. I'm not sure if this is a parody thread or not, but either way it jsut doesn't make sense.

EDIT: so i did like 10 seconds of research and went to a site that said you need to burn 4,000,000 calories to lose a pound of fat, that converts to 4.65kWh. Thats what, like 30 cents of electricity?

Well your research is wrong because 3500 calories=1LB of fat FYI.

Calories in food are really kilocalories.

1 Calorie = 1000 calories

Nice. Goku, have you even seen a chemistry book?

An active person requires 3500 calories per day to stay fit, which relates to roughly 4000 watts in 24 hours (1 food calorie = 1.16 watt-hour).
5 seconds of Google FTW


Are you trying to compliment me in a weird sort of way?? 3500 calories = 1LB of fat. Most people refer to kilocalories with out realizing it, nothing wrong with speaking about it in the simplified form. Nonetheless 4,000,000 is wrong.
Ye
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: confused1234
Originally posted by: Midlander
Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: BrownTown
well, first off metabolism is only about 40% efficient which is around the same number for a coal burning power plant, so the body is no more efficient than other methods. Second, converting anything to heat is ~100% efficient. Converting fat to heat is really really easy, i take a match and light the fat on fire. Although, this clearly cannot be even a remotely serious question since a pound of fat is only a tiny amount of energy compared to what a house normally uses in a day. Maybe if you were 100 lbs overweight and you removed all that fat and burned it you could get one free day of heating for your house, but thats about it. The thought is just completely ludicrous. I'm not sure if this is a parody thread or not, but either way it jsut doesn't make sense.

EDIT: so i did like 10 seconds of research and went to a site that said you need to burn 4,000,000 calories to lose a pound of fat, that converts to 4.65kWh. Thats what, like 30 cents of electricity?

Well your research is wrong because 3500 calories=1LB of fat FYI.

Calories in food are really kilocalories.

1 Calorie = 1000 calories

Nice. Goku, have you even seen a chemistry book?

An active person requires 3500 calories per day to stay fit, which relates to roughly 4000 watts in 24 hours (1 food calorie = 1.16 watt-hour).
5 seconds of Google FTW


Are you trying to compliment me in a weird sort of way?? 3500 calories = 1LB of fat. Most people refer to kilocalories with out realizing it, nothing wrong with speaking about it in the simplified form. Nonetheless 4,000,000 is wrong.
Ye

You can't be this stupid...

It would be 3,500,000 calories = 3500 Kilocalories = 3500 Calories == Energy content of 1lbs of fat. If anything, Browntown was slightly overestimating the energy of a pound of fat. Either way, it's still obvious that you are only going to get 4 KWh per pound, which only took me 5 seconds to find out. 4KW are not going to be worthwhile for heating a home. Portable electric heaters are 1KW.