So I was driving through the ghetto yesterday.....

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isasir

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LOL at those arguing in this thread, while Scarpozzi sits back, drinks his beer and enjoys his life. :)

BTW, the law also says it's illegal to jaywalk in NY.
 

lancestorm

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Amused, you are fighting a losing battle with your opinion on open container law. It would ENCOURAGE people behind the wheel to have a drink. And you know that not everyone has a sense of control for only one beer that you claim they do.
 

no0b

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
....and thought I'd do some grocery shopping. I headed into a food lion and grabbed a cart...bought picked up a loaf of bread and some diet coke... Then it hit me. I realized it was 8:00pm and I hadn't eaten anything since lunch. So I thought, I'll check the deli. They didn't have much...just a couple of boxes of cold fried chicken. I grabbed a 4 piece box and thought, "what would go good with chicken?" Then it hit me...I headed to the beer section and grabbed a nice cold 24oz can of Coors Light. I hit the checkout in full force to pay and get out of there. I got in my car, ripped open the chicken and cracked into the cold beer. I then started my car up and headed down the road doing 25 mph through the ghetto...eating cold fried chicken and drinking beer. That's when it hit me.....my life kicks @ss! It was a great feeling. :)

1. Collect beer and cold chicken
2. Cruise
3. ?????#*#???
4. PROFIT!

Sounds like a perfect end to a day.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

I think it is. Now if everyone could be trusted to be responsible then it wouldn't be but alas, responsibility and booze usually do not usually go hand in hand.

He had one beer and drove. Was that "irresponsible?"
you frickin know beer is just like potato chips! who stops at one?!?!?!
you let someone drink one behind the wheel legally like you propose and they'll drink more than one!

Bullsh!t. People have a single beer all the time.

Not everyone is a teenage binge drinker. There is no reason to treat everyone as if they were.
yeh.. right... try again. i'm not talking binge drinking. one beer leads to two, or three most of the time. but you don't drink so how would you know, right?

really got to see a different side of you in this thread. didn't realize you were such an advocate for people being allowed to drink alcohol while driving in their vehicle... yes, yes, just "ONE", and sure they'll stop at just one. :confused:

I know plenty of people who have a single beer with dinner. Are they to be thrown in jail?

Again, drinking while in the car is NO different than drinking right before you get in the car. You've done nothing to stop drunk driving by banning open containers.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: isasir
LOL at those arguing in this thread, while Scarpozzi sits back, drinks his beer and enjoys his life. :)

BTW, the law also says it's illegal to jaywalk in NY.
he just might be choking on a chicken bone :laugh:

 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: Amused

The argument is whether the law is within reason.

Sheesh.

Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

I think it is. Now if everyone could be trusted to be responsible then it wouldn't be but alas, responsibility and booze usually do not usually go hand in hand.

He had one beer and drove. Was that "irresponsible?"

Amused, I find it funny that when I turned the arguement toward any specific individual, you turned it toward the general case. And when Red Dawn spoke of the general case, you spoke of the individual. Are you practicing your debating skills by any chance? Are you going to be a trial lawyer? Cause I really think you like to argue for the sake of arguement
 

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: moshquerade
duuuuude, drinking&driving, your life sucks ass :thumbsdown:

sorry, cannot condone

Ok, open container isnt good for legal reasons, but one beer for an adult is legal and isnt dangerous. Get over it.
No problem, he can operate a vehicle after having a beer. However it's not a good idea to allow open containers in moving vehicles as it promotes drinking and driving.

I can dig that, he should have poured it in a 7-11 cup :).
 

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: isasir
LOL at those arguing in this thread, while Scarpozzi sits back, drinks his beer and enjoys his life. :)

BTW, the law also says it's illegal to jaywalk in NY.
he just might be choking his chicken :laugh:

:shocked:
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: lancestorm
Amused, you are fighting a losing battle with your opinion on open container law. It would ENCOURAGE people behind the wheel to have a drink. And you know that not everyone has a sense of control for only one beer that you claim they do.

Really?

So safe sex classes in sex ed ENCOURAGE kids to have sex?

Open container laws do nothing to stop drunk driving. Saying the lack of a law encourages people to do something is rather silly. It's like laws against suicide. Do you REALLY think suicide rates would rise if laws against them were taken off the books???

Drunk driving is already illegal. Passing more laws in an attempt to stop people from breaking already existing laws does nothing but rob innocent people of their freedoms.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

I think it is. Now if everyone could be trusted to be responsible then it wouldn't be but alas, responsibility and booze usually do not usually go hand in hand.

He had one beer and drove. Was that "irresponsible?"
you frickin know beer is just like potato chips! who stops at one?!?!?!
you let someone drink one behind the wheel legally like you propose and they'll drink more than one!

Bullsh!t. People have a single beer all the time.

Not everyone is a teenage binge drinker. There is no reason to treat everyone as if they were.
yeh.. right... try again. i'm not talking binge drinking. one beer leads to two, or three most of the time. but you don't drink so how would you know, right?

really got to see a different side of you in this thread. didn't realize you were such an advocate for people being allowed to drink alcohol while driving in their vehicle... yes, yes, just "ONE", and sure they'll stop at just one. :confused:

I know plenty of people who have a single beer with dinner. Are they to be thrown in jail?

Again, drinking while in the car is NO different than drinking right before you get in the car. You've done nothing to stop drunk driving by banning open containers.
i am done trying to reason with someone who is promoting drivers drinking alcohol in a motor vehicle.
you are wrong in doing so.

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: lancestorm
Amused, you are fighting a losing battle with your opinion on open container law. It would ENCOURAGE people behind the wheel to have a drink. And you know that not everyone has a sense of control for only one beer that you claim they do.

Really?

So safe sex classes in sex ed ENCOURAGE kids to have sex?

Open container laws do nothing to stop drunk driving. Saying the lack of a law encourages people to do something is rather silly. It's like laws against suicide. Do you REALLY think suicide rates would rise if laws against them were taken off the books???

Drunk driving is already illegal. Passing more laws in an attempt to stop people from breaking already existing laws does nothing but rob innocent people of their freedoms.
Freedoms? Since when is driving with an open container one of our freedoms? In fact being able to drive is a privilege not a right.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: moshquerade

i am done trying to reason with someone who is promoting drivers drinking alcohol in a motor vehicle.
you are wrong in doing so.

God says so, right?

Where are the provable stats that open container laws signifigantly lower drunk driving rates?

Where is the reason in passing more laws to prevent people from breaking already existing laws?

Do you think a person inclined to drive drunk will suddenly see the light and call a cab because of open container laws? He was already prepared to break one law, what's another?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: lancestorm
Amused, you are fighting a losing battle with your opinion on open container law. It would ENCOURAGE people behind the wheel to have a drink. And you know that not everyone has a sense of control for only one beer that you claim they do.

Really?

So safe sex classes in sex ed ENCOURAGE kids to have sex?

Open container laws do nothing to stop drunk driving. Saying the lack of a law encourages people to do something is rather silly. It's like laws against suicide. Do you REALLY think suicide rates would rise if laws against them were taken off the books???

Drunk driving is already illegal. Passing more laws in an attempt to stop people from breaking already existing laws does nothing but rob innocent people of their freedoms.
Freedoms? Since when is driving with an open container one of our freedoms? In fact being able to drive is a privilege not a right.

You were free to do it before, and now you are not. I'd call that a loss of freedom.

I think you've confused "right" with "freedom" in this case.
 

StageLeft

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I had never seen people drink and drive (meaning, literally drinking and driving at the same time) until i got to Bama. I've now quite a few people do it, the most recent was a girl in rush hour traffic at 5:49 pm. Dumb b*tch. She knew I saw her doing it. If I was somebody else I could easily have tailed her and gotten the police on the phone. I have a couple of friends who always do it at the beach, but they hide it and only do it at night. It's fun to drive while having a beer, but it's just asking for it, scar :)
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: lancestorm
Amused, you are fighting a losing battle with your opinion on open container law. It would ENCOURAGE people behind the wheel to have a drink. And you know that not everyone has a sense of control for only one beer that you claim they do.

Really?

So safe sex classes in sex ed ENCOURAGE kids to have sex?

Open container laws do nothing to stop drunk driving. Saying the lack of a law encourages people to do something is rather silly. It's like laws against suicide. Do you REALLY think suicide rates would rise if laws against them were taken off the books???

Drunk driving is already illegal. Passing more laws in an attempt to stop people from breaking already existing laws does nothing but rob innocent people of their freedoms.
Freedoms? Since when is driving with an open container one of our freedoms? In fact being able to drive is a privilege not a right.

good point
 

xaeniac

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[/quote]

in new orleans there are no open container laws. everyone in a car is allowed to drink all they want except for the driver[/quote]



That law has been changed now. Though not many ppl obey it.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade

i am done trying to reason with someone who is promoting drivers drinking alcohol in a motor vehicle.
you are wrong in doing so.

God says so, right?

Where are the provable stats that open container laws signifigantly lower drunk driving rates?

Where is the reason in passing more laws to prevent people from breaking already existing laws?

Do you think a person inclined to drive drunk will suddenly see the light and call a cab because of open container laws? He was already prepared to break one law, what's another?
what was the "God says so, right?" comment for? :confused:

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: lancestorm
Amused, you are fighting a losing battle with your opinion on open container law. It would ENCOURAGE people behind the wheel to have a drink. And you know that not everyone has a sense of control for only one beer that you claim they do.

Really?

So safe sex classes in sex ed ENCOURAGE kids to have sex?

Open container laws do nothing to stop drunk driving. Saying the lack of a law encourages people to do something is rather silly. It's like laws against suicide. Do you REALLY think suicide rates would rise if laws against them were taken off the books???

Drunk driving is already illegal. Passing more laws in an attempt to stop people from breaking already existing laws does nothing but rob innocent people of their freedoms.
Freedoms? Since when is driving with an open container one of our freedoms? In fact being able to drive is a privilege not a right.

good point

:::sigh:::

You were free to do it before, and now you are not. I'd call that a loss of freedom.

I think you've confused "right" with "freedom" in this case.
 

lancestorm

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: lancestorm
Amused, you are fighting a losing battle with your opinion on open container law. It would ENCOURAGE people behind the wheel to have a drink. And you know that not everyone has a sense of control for only one beer that you claim they do.

Really?

So safe sex classes in sex ed ENCOURAGE kids to have sex?

Open container laws do nothing to stop drunk driving. Saying the lack of a law encourages people to do something is rather silly. It's like laws against suicide. Do you REALLY think suicide rates would rise if laws against them were taken off the books???

Drunk driving is already illegal. Passing more laws in an attempt to stop people from breaking already existing laws does nothing but rob innocent people of their freedoms.


Dude, wtf. Your other examples have nothing to do with anything we have discussed. Those are completely different things. You must like arguing. If people are allowed to drink in their cars, you are robbing them of the opportunity that someone will get involved and try to save their life or the lives of others. Sadly, few people need a reason to drink.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: moshquerade

what was the "God says so, right?" comment for? :confused:

Because you said it was "wrong" as if it were an absolute. It sounded rather religious.
 

preslove

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what the OP did was illegal. do you dispute that?

This argument is the last refuge for assholes and idiots. Things often are made illegal because of hysteria. Add sex, drugs, drunk driving, terrorism, immigration, guns, etc. to any legislative docket and you'll see some fvcked up laws spew forth. If you rely on our legal system for you ethical cues, there's no hope.


The op was impaired by the fact that he was EATING AND DRINKING, not drinking alcohol. The reactionaries on this board get their panties all in a wad about cell phone drivers, but probably don't care about distractions like this one. Of course, he was driving 25 mph, so who cares. Sounds fun.
 

This argument is the last refuge for assholes and idiots. Things often are made illegal because of hysteria. Add sex, drugs, drunk driving, terrorism, immigration, guns, etc. to any legislative docket and you'll see some fvcked up laws spew forth. If you rely on our legal system for you ethical cues, there's no hope.
Amen.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: lancestorm
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: lancestorm
Amused, you are fighting a losing battle with your opinion on open container law. It would ENCOURAGE people behind the wheel to have a drink. And you know that not everyone has a sense of control for only one beer that you claim they do.

Really?

So safe sex classes in sex ed ENCOURAGE kids to have sex?

Open container laws do nothing to stop drunk driving. Saying the lack of a law encourages people to do something is rather silly. It's like laws against suicide. Do you REALLY think suicide rates would rise if laws against them were taken off the books???

Drunk driving is already illegal. Passing more laws in an attempt to stop people from breaking already existing laws does nothing but rob innocent people of their freedoms.


Dude, wtf. Your other examples have nothing to do with anything we have discussed. Those are completely different things. You must like arguing. If people are allowed to drink in their cars, you are robbing them of the opportunity that someone will get involved and try to save their life or the lives of others. Sadly, few people need a reason to drink.

No, they are completely relevant. And your post proves that.