So I am just about 1 week from returning to Iraq for 6 months to a year

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Yeah, ponder these things:

Oil is the lifeblood of modern civilization, especially for Americans. We eat food which was shipped by trucks buring diesel which were transported by planes burning fuel which were harvested by machines buring diesel which whose metal ore was mined from the ground using other machines burning diesel, etc. Without oil our entire civilization would collapse.

So then, isn't it amusing that the liberal anti-war protesters who say "no blood for oil" actually use a tremendous amount of oil every day of their lives?

Further, why did Putin nationalize Yukos? What are the global effects of China, with it's 1.x BILLION people, now being the world's #2 importer of oil behind the United States? What are the global effects of India, with it's 1.x BILLION people, moving from using bicycles to mopeds and small cars? What natural resources will these 2.x BILLION people be competing for with the rest of the world? What is the demand for energy, food, water? Can we Americans continue with our way of life with the resources that we have, or do we need to secure foreign sources?


Thank you sir for serving America by securing Iraq's oil fields which will allow our civilization to continue forward. Don't let the others misguide you - without oil, many, many millions of Americans will die. It's ironic that they can cry over the dead tsunami victims, but have no clue on how many Americans will perish without oil.

Good post! I think the liberals who disagree with the war for oil, should stop using petroleum products right now in protest. No petro based fuel for anything, no petro based plastics, etc.

I would be interested in seeing posts from any of you who believe strongly that the war is wrong for the wrong reasons that declare your personal boycott against any petro based products! Put your comfort where your mouth is!

I would be interested in seeing the Republicans who want the war for oil to sign their fat asses up for duty and sign up their children ..

 

[BarneyFife]

Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Yeah, ponder these things:

Oil is the lifeblood of modern civilization, especially for Americans. We eat food which was shipped by trucks buring diesel which were transported by planes burning fuel which were harvested by machines buring diesel which whose metal ore was mined from the ground using other machines burning diesel, etc. Without oil our entire civilization would collapse.

So then, isn't it amusing that the liberal anti-war protesters who say "no blood for oil" actually use a tremendous amount of oil every day of their lives?

Further, why did Putin nationalize Yukos? What are the global effects of China, with it's 1.x BILLION people, now being the world's #2 importer of oil behind the United States? What are the global effects of India, with it's 1.x BILLION people, moving from using bicycles to mopeds and small cars? What natural resources will these 2.x BILLION people be competing for with the rest of the world? What is the demand for energy, food, water? Can we Americans continue with our way of life with the resources that we have, or do we need to secure foreign sources?


Thank you sir for serving America by securing Iraq's oil fields which will allow our civilization to continue forward. Don't let the others misguide you - without oil, many, many millions of Americans will die. It's ironic that they can cry over the dead tsunami victims, but have no clue on how many Americans will perish without oil.

Good post! I think the liberals who disagree with the war for oil, should stop using petroleum products right now in protest. No petro based fuel for anything, no petro based plastics, etc.

I would be interested in seeing posts from any of you who believe strongly that the war is wrong for the wrong reasons that declare your personal boycott against any petro based products! Put your comfort where your mouth is!

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

When are you going to be a human shield, or are you just a desktop anti-war activist?

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

When are you going to be a human shield, or are you just a desktop anti-war activist?

That deserves a too!

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

When are you going to be a human shield, or are you just a desktop anti-war activist?

That deserves a too!

Does it? Why is one argument valid, but the other isn't? Your deserves a .

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

When are you going to be a human shield, or are you just a desktop anti-war activist?

That deserves a too!

Does it? Why is one argument valid, but the other isn't? Your deserves a .

So being pro-war over a big ole lie (WMD's) is just fine, but being anti-war because of a bil ole lie (WMD's) is not? Ah, I get it. Of course, the pro-war people (mostly PRO BUSH and nothing more) don't care. Several, such as Halos, have other agendas (and some are even proud of it). It refreshing and gives a great sense of security to see the terror cells like Al Qaeda shrink because of Iraq.....oh, wait, but that's not happening. Al-Qaeda is estimated to have doubled since the Iraq war. I guess if that's "mission accomplished".

At least Halos is honest, if not warped.

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

When are you going to be a human shield, or are you just a desktop anti-war activist?

Struck a nerve LOL.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

When are you going to be a human shield, or are you just a desktop anti-war activist?

That deserves a too!

Does it? Why is one argument valid, but the other isn't? Your deserves a .

So being pro-war over a big ole lie (WMD's) is just fine, but being anti-war because of a bil ole lie (WMD's) is not? Ah, I get it.

What do WMD's have to do with it?. But let's stick with your logic. If your premise it correct (that WMD's were a lie), all the more reason why the rabid leftists should be over there as human shields. If it is a war based on lies, why aren't they heading over by the busload? Why aren't your convictions as strong, or even stronger, as the expected "pro-war desk jockeys"?

Or, why aren't you conducting a revolution to overthrow our corrupt government? Bunch of desktop-anti-war activitsts, that's all.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

When are you going to be a human shield, or are you just a desktop anti-war activist?

Struck a nerve LOL.

Too pussy to do anything Barney.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

When are you going to be a human shield, or are you just a desktop anti-war activist?

That deserves a too!

Does it? Why is one argument valid, but the other isn't? Your deserves a .

So being pro-war over a big ole lie (WMD's) is just fine, but being anti-war because of a bil ole lie (WMD's) is not? Ah, I get it.

What do WMD's have to do with it?. But let's stick with your logic. If your premise it correct (that WMD's were a lie), all the more reason why the rabid leftists should be over there as human shields. If it is a war based on lies, why aren't they heading over by the busload? Why aren't your convictions as strong, or even stronger, as the expected "pro-war desk jockeys"?

Or, why aren't you conducting a revolution to overthrow our corrupt government? Bunch of desktop-anti-war activitsts, that's all.

I'll go on record that I'll agree with you on this one...for both sides. 99.9999999% of this forum are desktop activists. Both sides sit and try to out do the other, with very little swaying. An occasional constructive thread with discussion is thrown in for good measure. At this point, I have the right to disagree with what out governement does (as do you to approve). I write my Senators and Reps regularly to approve or disapprove of their job and I vote. If enough people disapprove of the war and aren't using other issues to decide their vote, it will eventually take care of itself.

Either that, or the apathy from most of the people in the country, who don't care about much else then their own personal status, will win out as it usually does.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Engineer


I'll go on record that I'll agree with you on this one...for both sides. 99.9999999% of this forum are desktop activists. Both sides sit and try to out do the other, with very little swaying. An occasional constructive thread with discussion is thrown in for good measure. At this point, I have the right to disagree with what out governement does (as do you to approve). I write my Senators and Reps regularly to approve or disapprove of their job and I vote. If enough people disapprove of the war and aren't using other issues to decide their vote, it will eventually take care of itself.

Either that, or the apathy from most of the people in the country, who don't care about much else then their own personal status, will win out as it usually does.

Much better response than a

Back on topic - Justin don't post and then run We have some questions we want answered...

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Engineer


I'll go on record that I'll agree with you on this one...for both sides. 99.9999999% of this forum are desktop activists. Both sides sit and try to out do the other, with very little swaying. An occasional constructive thread with discussion is thrown in for good measure. At this point, I have the right to disagree with what out governement does (as do you to approve). I write my Senators and Reps regularly to approve or disapprove of their job and I vote. If enough people disapprove of the war and aren't using other issues to decide their vote, it will eventually take care of itself.

Either that, or the apathy from most of the people in the country, who don't care about much else then their own personal status, will win out as it usually does.

Much better response than a

Back on topic - Justin don't post and then run We have some questions we want answered...

Sorry, becomes a habit!

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

When are you going to be a human shield, or are you just a desktop anti-war activist?

Wouldn't the people you are referring to be Oil Shields

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

When are you going to be a human shield, or are you just a desktop anti-war activist?

Struck a nerve LOL.

Too pussy to do anything Barney.

What do you want me to do? Go die in Iraq for Ahmed and Assad? Yeah right I could care less. The difference is that I don't talk a tough game unlike you who loves to see others go to war but is too pussy to go himself.

 

[kage69]

I don't care why you're over there; keep your head down, watch your ass, and good luck. Come back in one piece and tell us of what you saw. :beer:

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

When are you going to be a human shield, or are you just a desktop anti-war activist?

Struck a nerve LOL.

Too pussy to do anything Barney.

What do you want me to do? Go die in Iraq for Ahmed and Assad? Yeah right I could care less. The difference is that I don't talk a tough game unlike you who loves to see others go to war but is too pussy to go himself.

So start a revolution. Oh, too apathetic for that too. Guess you just are an all-around pussy.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Yeah, ponder these things:

Oil is the lifeblood of modern civilization, especially for Americans. We eat food which was shipped by trucks buring diesel which were transported by planes burning fuel which were harvested by machines buring diesel which whose metal ore was mined from the ground using other machines burning diesel, etc. Without oil our entire civilization would collapse.

So then, isn't it amusing that the liberal anti-war protesters who say "no blood for oil" actually use a tremendous amount of oil every day of their lives?

Further, why did Putin nationalize Yukos? What are the global effects of China, with it's 1.x BILLION people, now being the world's #2 importer of oil behind the United States? What are the global effects of India, with it's 1.x BILLION people, moving from using bicycles to mopeds and small cars? What natural resources will these 2.x BILLION people be competing for with the rest of the world? What is the demand for energy, food, water? Can we Americans continue with our way of life with the resources that we have, or do we need to secure foreign sources?


Thank you sir for serving America by securing Iraq's oil fields which will allow our civilization to continue forward. Don't let the others misguide you - without oil, many, many millions of Americans will die. It's ironic that they can cry over the dead tsunami victims, but have no clue on how many Americans will perish without oil.

Good post! I think the liberals who disagree with the war for oil, should stop using petroleum products right now in protest. No petro based fuel for anything, no petro based plastics, etc.

I would be interested in seeing posts from any of you who believe strongly that the war is wrong for the wrong reasons that declare your personal boycott against any petro based products! Put your comfort where your mouth is!

In today's money, it cost about 400B to develop the atom bomb. How much has been spent, so far, on this little war?

See, some (rational) people would look at this whole situation and say "Hey, why not invest that into renewable energy research, yielding an almost limitless supply of energy, less pollution, and no dependence on foreign oil".

Others look at this and say "Hogwash, we need to invade a country and kill thousands!" But don't worry, there is no need to explain your irrational views, we've all seen the way you guy get when talking about your military. A lot like Wilhelm II - you just have to play with your toys, no matter what.

And before you set your pea sized brains to the momumental task of repling, keep in mind that the vast majority of oil is used for energy. If it were used only for petro based product, it would be no different from iron or copper. When was the last time peopel went to war over copper?

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Martin

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Yeah, ponder these things:

Oil is the lifeblood of modern civilization, especially for Americans. We eat food which was shipped by trucks buring diesel which were transported by planes burning fuel which were harvested by machines buring diesel which whose metal ore was mined from the ground using other machines burning diesel, etc. Without oil our entire civilization would collapse.

So then, isn't it amusing that the liberal anti-war protesters who say "no blood for oil" actually use a tremendous amount of oil every day of their lives?

Further, why did Putin nationalize Yukos? What are the global effects of China, with it's 1.x BILLION people, now being the world's #2 importer of oil behind the United States? What are the global effects of India, with it's 1.x BILLION people, moving from using bicycles to mopeds and small cars? What natural resources will these 2.x BILLION people be competing for with the rest of the world? What is the demand for energy, food, water? Can we Americans continue with our way of life with the resources that we have, or do we need to secure foreign sources?


Thank you sir for serving America by securing Iraq's oil fields which will allow our civilization to continue forward. Don't let the others misguide you - without oil, many, many millions of Americans will die. It's ironic that they can cry over the dead tsunami victims, but have no clue on how many Americans will perish without oil.

Good post! I think the liberals who disagree with the war for oil, should stop using petroleum products right now in protest. No petro based fuel for anything, no petro based plastics, etc.

I would be interested in seeing posts from any of you who believe strongly that the war is wrong for the wrong reasons that declare your personal boycott against any petro based products! Put your comfort where your mouth is!

In today's money, it cost about 400B to develop the atom bomb. How much has been spent, so far, on this little war?

See, some (rational) people would look at this whole situation and say "Hey, why not invest that into renewable energy research, yielding an almost limitless supply of energy, less pollution, and no dependence on foreign oil".

Others look at this and say "Hogwash, we need to invade a country and kill thousands!" But don't worry, there is no need to explain your irrational views, we've all seen the way you guy get when talking about your military. A lot like Wilhelm II - you just have to play with your toys, no matter what.

And before you set your pea sized brains to the momumental task of repling, keep in mind that the vast majority of oil is used for energy[/b]. If it were used only for petro based product, it would be no different from iron or copper. When was the last time peopel went to war over copper?

Well, after 8 years of Clinton, there was no handy dandy renewal energy solution in the offing. How much work have you done on that? Like I said, boycott petro products and use those renewal sources of energy! You shouldn't miss the oil at all.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: Martin

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Yeah, ponder these things:

Oil is the lifeblood of modern civilization, especially for Americans. We eat food which was shipped by trucks buring diesel which were transported by planes burning fuel which were harvested by machines buring diesel which whose metal ore was mined from the ground using other machines burning diesel, etc. Without oil our entire civilization would collapse.

So then, isn't it amusing that the liberal anti-war protesters who say "no blood for oil" actually use a tremendous amount of oil every day of their lives?

Further, why did Putin nationalize Yukos? What are the global effects of China, with it's 1.x BILLION people, now being the world's #2 importer of oil behind the United States? What are the global effects of India, with it's 1.x BILLION people, moving from using bicycles to mopeds and small cars? What natural resources will these 2.x BILLION people be competing for with the rest of the world? What is the demand for energy, food, water? Can we Americans continue with our way of life with the resources that we have, or do we need to secure foreign sources?


Thank you sir for serving America by securing Iraq's oil fields which will allow our civilization to continue forward. Don't let the others misguide you - without oil, many, many millions of Americans will die. It's ironic that they can cry over the dead tsunami victims, but have no clue on how many Americans will perish without oil.

Good post! I think the liberals who disagree with the war for oil, should stop using petroleum products right now in protest. No petro based fuel for anything, no petro based plastics, etc.

I would be interested in seeing posts from any of you who believe strongly that the war is wrong for the wrong reasons that declare your personal boycott against any petro based products! Put your comfort where your mouth is!

In today's money, it cost about 400B to develop the atom bomb. How much has been spent, so far, on this little war?

See, some (rational) people would look at this whole situation and say "Hey, why not invest that into renewable energy research, yielding an almost limitless supply of energy, less pollution, and no dependence on foreign oil".

Others look at this and say "Hogwash, we need to invade a country and kill thousands!" But don't worry, there is no need to explain your irrational views, we've all seen the way you guy get when talking about your military. A lot like Wilhelm II - you just have to play with your toys, no matter what.

And before you set your pea sized brains to the momumental task of repling, keep in mind that the vast majority of oil is used for energy. If it were used only for petro based product, it would be no different from iron or copper. When was the last time peopel went to war over copper?

Well, after 8 years of Clinton, there was no handy dandy renewal energy solution in the offing. How much work have you done on that? Like I said, boycott petro products and use those renewal sources of energy! You shouldn't miss the oil at all.

Let me search my original post for "Clinton", hold on.....no, I don't find any mention of clinton in there. Why do you bring it up?

But nice try at trying to skirt around the question. Perhaps I should ask again: Why do you support wars, but not scientific research?

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

When are you going to be a human shield, or are you just a desktop anti-war activist?

Struck a nerve LOL.

Too pussy to do anything Barney.

What do you want me to do? Go die in Iraq for Ahmed and Assad? Yeah right I could care less. The difference is that I don't talk a tough game unlike you who loves to see others go to war but is too pussy to go himself.

So start a revolution. Oh, too apathetic for that too. Guess you just are an all-around pussy.

HAHAHAHA!! You're speechless. Go put some of those quotes on your website so I can even get a bigger laugh.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Yeah, ponder these things:

Oil is the lifeblood of modern civilization, especially for Americans. We eat food which was shipped by trucks buring diesel which were transported by planes burning fuel which were harvested by machines buring diesel which whose metal ore was mined from the ground using other machines burning diesel, etc. Without oil our entire civilization would collapse.

So then, isn't it amusing that the liberal anti-war protesters who say "no blood for oil" actually use a tremendous amount of oil every day of their lives?

Further, why did Putin nationalize Yukos? What are the global effects of China, with it's 1.x BILLION people, now being the world's #2 importer of oil behind the United States? What are the global effects of India, with it's 1.x BILLION people, moving from using bicycles to mopeds and small cars? What natural resources will these 2.x BILLION people be competing for with the rest of the world? What is the demand for energy, food, water? Can we Americans continue with our way of life with the resources that we have, or do we need to secure foreign sources?


Thank you sir for serving America by securing Iraq's oil fields which will allow our civilization to continue forward. Don't let the others misguide you - without oil, many, many millions of Americans will die. It's ironic that they can cry over the dead tsunami victims, but have no clue on how many Americans will perish without oil.

Good post! I think the liberals who disagree with the war for oil, should stop using petroleum products right now in protest. No petro based fuel for anything, no petro based plastics, etc.

I would be interested in seeing posts from any of you who believe strongly that the war is wrong for the wrong reasons that declare your personal boycott against any petro based products! Put your comfort where your mouth is!

I would be interested in seeing the Republicans who want the war for oil to sign their fat asses up for duty and sign up their children ..

Actually I think about it a lot. I could make about 200K there. I don't think they take 59 year olds into the all volunteer service these days. I take it you are going to boycott!

 

[HalosPuma]

Originally posted by: Martin
keep in mind that the vast majority of oil is used for energy. If it were used only for petro based product, it would be no different from iron or copper. When was the last time peopel went to war over copper?

The free-market will bring those alternative energy sources to the forefront when it is economically possible. And guess which corporations will the leaders in the alternative energy sources? Big Oil.

For example, look at the "paper" company, Xerox. They made copiers and heavily relied on a paper-based economy. However, decades ago the executives at Xerox knew that computers would displace a lot of paper and their current business model would suffer. Thus, they created the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center which gathered a group of the smartest computer scientists to invent things that Xerox could use to replace their paper business. Out of PARC came such inventions as the ethernet, the GUI, etc.

My point is that the executives at Big Oil are not stupid, they know that we are approaching or have already reached Peak Oil and that in order to keep their profits flowing, they will need to invest in other forms of energy. Government will not, and should not, get involved in developing new forms of energy - most of the money will go to bureaucratic waste. What government should do, however, is make the business environment conducive to developing alternative energies such as tax breaks, etc.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Condor and HalosPuma are desktop patriots. They talk a big game but they are too pussy to sign up for anything.

I did mine in RVN and for the past 22 years in the Embassies overseas. What have you ever done except google searches and cliff notes papers? Just asking since you are the one calling names.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Yeah, ponder these things:

Oil is the lifeblood of modern civilization, especially for Americans. We eat food which was shipped by trucks buring diesel which were transported by planes burning fuel which were harvested by machines buring diesel which whose metal ore was mined from the ground using other machines burning diesel, etc. Without oil our entire civilization would collapse.

So then, isn't it amusing that the liberal anti-war protesters who say "no blood for oil" actually use a tremendous amount of oil every day of their lives?

Further, why did Putin nationalize Yukos? What are the global effects of China, with it's 1.x BILLION people, now being the world's #2 importer of oil behind the United States? What are the global effects of India, with it's 1.x BILLION people, moving from using bicycles to mopeds and small cars? What natural resources will these 2.x BILLION people be competing for with the rest of the world? What is the demand for energy, food, water? Can we Americans continue with our way of life with the resources that we have, or do we need to secure foreign sources?


Thank you sir for serving America by securing Iraq's oil fields which will allow our civilization to continue forward. Don't let the others misguide you - without oil, many, many millions of Americans will die. It's ironic that they can cry over the dead tsunami victims, but have no clue on how many Americans will perish without oil.

Good post! I think the liberals who disagree with the war for oil, should stop using petroleum products right now in protest. No petro based fuel for anything, no petro based plastics, etc.

I would be interested in seeing posts from any of you who believe strongly that the war is wrong for the wrong reasons that declare your personal boycott against any petro based products! Put your comfort where your mouth is!

I would be interested in seeing the Republicans who want the war for oil to sign their fat asses up for duty and sign up their children ..

Check your facts - 6'5" and 230 lbs. How about your fat ass?