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So how successful do you think high definition DVDs will be?

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DPmaster

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I'm counting the days until high definition DVDs will be available and will buy a player when they come out. Question is how successful do you think they will be?

When DVDs came out, there was a major jump of features/qualities over VHS. The same really can't be said when comparing regular DVDs and their high-end counterparts. Yes it is more advanced but will it matter to the average joe user? He'll be watching movies on a 25" screen and probably won't be able to tell the difference between hi-def and regular DVDs.

Will it become a niche market like SACD, DVD-Audio, laserdiscs, D-VHS, etc.? All of these formats are superior but don't seem to be going anywhere or are already dead. SACD is superior but CDs aren't going anywhere anytime soon (for the music industry at least). I've got the same feeling about DVDs. They'll be around for awhile before a better format takes over. Let's face it, the industry caters to the average joe...if he isn't interested in it, then the industry won't invest too much time into it. I think the industry is already looking at this with those hybrid DVDs.

The only way I really see it being successful is by phasing out regular DVD players as quickly as possible and replacing them with hi-def players capable of playing regular DVDs. I imagine it will be AT LEAST 5+ years before hi-def DVDs would be considered mainstream.
 
Depends on the price of the players, price of the media, availability of titles, and backwards compatibility of players.
 
the movie studios really are going to try hard to make it succeed, so they can sell all their crap yet again in another format. I think it will catch on, but you are probably correct in that it will be at least 5 years before mainstream like DVDs are now.
 
I totally agree that it is more than the average joe cares about. The Jump from VHS to DVD was huge...but most people still do not have the equipment to even get the best out of a DVD. Only Vidow/Audiophiles will care about the HD DVDs.

As always, the market could be defined once again by p0rn.
 
Just a matter of time till HD-DVD or blueray or whatever tcome down in price such that your every day consumer can afford one. Sub $200 player = mainstream

And discs still have to be i nthe $15-$20 range.
 
Not very. Blue ray ownz. Just kidding. I think that HD DVD will win this battle, although Blue Ray it looks like Blue Ray is the better technology.

If I'm not mistaken the HD DVD players will have the ability to read the (non HD) DVD format using the same laser. If not, I believe there will be multiple laser readers so that people can still watch their old standard DVD's.

At any rate this technology (or Blue Ray whichever one wins) will be a much more successful than other failed technologies of the past simply because without it there will be no way to watch a movie in HD (other than over a tuner).
 
HD DVD's are going to be huge, just because "High Definition" is such a buzzword these days. People have in the back of their minds that they absolutely must have HD systems, and will pay the price just to keep up with the Jones's.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Depends on the price of the players, price of the media, availability of titles, and backwards compatibility of players.
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Better said than I

sub $200 players
sub $20 titles

And the other stuff
 
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
HD DVD's are going to be huge, just because "High Definition" is such a buzzword these days. People have in the back of their minds that they absolutely must have HD systems, and will pay the price just to keep up with the Jones's.
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Anyone that has seen hi-def in action will want one. It's liek saying that you'd be happy with 640x480 8-bit color on your PC these days.
 
sacd and dvda are not comparable to hd video. even cd audio can fool a person into thinking it is real. video technology is no where near that. even hd video doesn't look "real". improvement over dvd is incredible, and screens just get getting bigger and cheaper. audio is improving in areas imperceptable to many now, video still has a ways to go, and anyone seeing hd video on a hd screen will see the improvement. its only a matter of time. and one overestimates the amount of features early dvds had. many were rather piss poor on video(ld transfer)..flippers, and without features.

and well, more and more people are getting decent sized wide screen or atleast high res lcd monitors😛

i think movie buffs will not buy dvds after a better format comes out. will seem like a waste of money really. only dvds still worth buying are the old tv show ones where quality is limited by source.
 
The big factor here is that in a few years HD will be the standard once the goverment enforces broadcasters to display all of its content in HD. So naturally HD-DVD will benefit from this.
 
bleh, bluray with its higher capacity is more worth the consumers money. up to 200gb capacity...the more breathing room a format has the better. look at dvd, early on it seemed like it was big enough, now movies are split over two discs(lotr ee).. or have to be "superbit" to preserve video quality and sacrifice special features. seamless branching? not enough space...bleh hddvd and its limited capacity is just a cop out. "savings" are never passed down to consumer for new tech, don't be niave.
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
sacd and dvda are not comparable to hd video. even cd audio can fool a person into thinking it is real. video technology is no where near that. even hd video doesn't look "real". improvement over dvd is incredible, and screens just get getting bigger and cheaper. audio is improving in areas imperceptable to many now, video still has a ways to go, and anyone seeing hd video on a hd screen will see the improvement. its only a matter of time. and one overestimates the amount of features early dvds had. many were rather piss poor on video(ld transfer)..flippers, and without features.

and well, more and more people are getting decent sized wide screen or atleast high res lcd monitors😛

i think movie buffs will not buy dvds after a better format comes out. will seem like a waste of money really. only dvds still worth buying are the old tv show ones where quality is limited by source.
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You bring up a good point. However I doubt the average joe can tell the difference between HD video and regular video. I know several people who say they can't tell the difference between VHS and DVD :Q They say the color looks better on DVD but that's about it. I've also notice more and more TVs coming out as EDTV instead of HDTV...this just annoys me. Might as well go with HDTV. Concerning audio, the quality will be better when high-def DVD comes out, but I don't see a major jump unless they come out with a new format (something like 9.2). It's still going to be 5.1, 6.1, or 7.1 if I'm not mistaken. It will just have better sound quality.

Also when I said high definition DVD, I meant it as a generic term. Blu-Ray should be included as well.
 
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
HD DVD's are going to be huge, just because "High Definition" is such a buzzword these days. People have in the back of their minds that they absolutely must have HD systems, and will pay the price just to keep up with the Jones's.
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Anyone that has seen hi-def in action will want one. It's liek saying that you'd be happy with 640x480 8-bit color on your PC these days.
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i disagree. i think the industry is more about the average joe as stated above. who cares about the 5% early adoptors? mom and pop watching a movie at home arent goin to appreciate high def dvds like others do.
 
on a small tv perhaps. but on a bigger screen you'd have to be legally blind not to see the difference. 3x+ the resolution.
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
on a small tv perhaps. but on a bigger screen you'd have to be legally blind not to see the difference. 3x+ the resolution.
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Yeah that's the problem they're watching on normal-sized regular definition TVs. They'll never replace it either unless it either breaks or they're forced to.

I'm now waiting for the 4K projectors to hit the home market one day 😀

4096 x 2160 = sweet
 
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