JD50: And people have also spent time making plenty of posts pointing out scientists that disagree with MMGW, but you and your buddies just claim that they are being paid off, bribed, etc...
M: First off, thank you for a more expressive post that attempts to say more of what you mean. If you will read my first post I made no such claim. I said that there was purported to be science coming from two perspectives and there is an apparent debate. I did not take a position and everybody hates me so I have no buddies, hehe. However, when a researcher is being paid by a party that has a stake in a scientific debate and that researcher reports heavily in favor of that party and thousands and thousands of other scientists not similarly paid see things differently only a very insane person would buy that research and dismiss all the rest.
JD50: Its the common theme here, scientists that agree with MMGW you say are geniune and not being paid to say what they say (which is complete bullshit),
M: Nope can't say bullshit unless you have proof of that and while I have a theme it's not common.
JD50: but then you claim that anyone that disagrees with MMGW is being paid to say that.
M: I said no such thing. I do not have any idea who is saying what or who is paying them.
JD50: Both sides are being paid to say what they say, to think otherwise is just plain silly.
M: Same problem again. You can't just say something is silly and have that make it true. You have to prove something is silly or at least try to explain your thinking. And I said that scientist get paid but suspicions arise when somebody is working for an interested party. So while some are paid to say what they think the are saying what they think without regard to the money because they are paid to give their best judgment regardless of what it is.
JD50: If you've lived this long and not learned to "follow the money" then I don't know what to tell you.
M: You have nothing to tell me and I have everything to tell you. It is not the money that matter but the source and the motivation. If you can't see that then there is more I can tell you but it's not pleasant. Hehe.
JD50: Just curious, but if a scientist is being paid to research global warming and what we can do to stop it, do you think that he would really come out and say that there is nothing that we can do about it?
M: Of course I do. I know what I would do with real scientific evidence. I know also that I would not take money from an interested party to research their subject because to do so would ruin my reputation with myself and my self respect is worth more than any amount of money can buy. It's how I am and I tend to see most others that way and everybody that way at their core.
JD50: Do you not see a monetary incentive to say that we are the cause of global warming?
M: No, I don't. I want to live in a rose colored world that never has any problems. I don't want to believe in global warming. I am not even close to being sure it exists. But I paid for what I know with all my dearest illusions and having been stripped of all I ever held dear can now better accept whatever the truth may bring. So what I am not is a denier of global warming. I am interested and open to the whole debate. I don't care whose ox gets gored because mine died.
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