So how come nobody seems to interested in DLP technology?

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I'd say people's fascination with having a thin TV they can hang on the wall eventhough 99% of them put it on a stand hehe.

I am in the mood to buy a new TV this summer. I was thikning about getting a 42 inch LCD or Plasma for the bedroom. But I am now leaning towards a 65 or 73" DLP. I saw a 65 and 73 inch Mistubishi last weekend at BB and fell in love with the size and quality of the picture. Ill move my 52 Inch DLP upstairs into the living room.

That 73" DLP is 3099 and the 65 1999 bucks at BB without any promotions. Sony has a 70 inch LCD for 33,000 lol :shocked:

True, even the relatively few people who *should* hang their TV, don't.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: eflat
So why don't stand alone projectors have this issue? I though these DPL tv's were essentially the same kind of projector.

I know stand alone projectors work fine since our school uses them all the time with computers..

It's just how they manufacture them. A dlp set could be built with 1-1 pixel mapping, and no overscan, but they don't. They sell more sets if imperfections in the geometry are not easily visible.

The premium line of Samsung DLPs (HLSxx88) can have the overscan disabled in the service menu allowing 1-1 pixel mapping. I don't know if the HLT line has the same feature.

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: eflat

Originally posted by: erwos
The HL-T5087SAX is a very, very good set. Check out the dedicated thread on AVSForum for more info. I, too, am also surprised at the lack of interest in DLPs.

I'm pretty much sold on it. Do you know where the best place to buy it from is?

Crutchfield had a special on it for $1300 that included shipping and a good stand, last I checked. Amazon has it for $1150, too.

Also, you can apparently set it to 1:1 by using the "Just Scan" option in the menus. This is apparently not as obvious as it could be, though. The set is also capable of firmware updates from a USB stick, but you have to call Samsung to have one mailed to you.

 

[vi edit]

Do the LED ones have bulbs that need to be replaced?

 

[DaveJ]

Originally posted by: vi edit
Do the LED ones have bulbs that need to be replaced?

No, the LEDs last the life of the set. I have an older HP DLP (MD5880n) that I will most likely replace with an LED DLP once it's out of warranty (April 2009). The greater reliability combined with the lack of moving parts (no color wheel) makes it a good deal IMO.

FWIW, for those of you looking at the Samsung LED DLP models, the new models will be available within a few weeks (HL61A750/HL67A750). They dropped the 56" size for 2008, LED models are now available in 61"/67" size only.

 

[dwell]

My sister has a 2007 Samsung DLP. I was over there yesterday and I have to say the viewing angle problem is still there. At about 45 degrees horizontally t starts to get dark. The vertical viewing angles were far worse. Where LCD washes out at about the same angle it only loses contrast (on most models). DLPs seem to lose picture (it gets darker and darker). Not horrible because most viewing in in that < 45 degree area but still a problem compared to plasma.

 

[scootermaster]

Originally posted by: Chris
My sister has a 2007 Samsung DLP. I was over there yesterday and I have to say the viewing angle problem is still there. At about 45 degrees horizontally t starts to get dark. The vertical viewing angles were far worse. Where LCD washes out at about the same angle it only loses contrast (on most models). DLPs seem to lose picture (it gets darker and darker). Not horrible because most viewing in in that < 45 degree area but still a problem compared to plasma.

And LCoS (which I thought had better PQ than DLP anyway) suffers from these same problems, right?

 

[kalrith]

Originally posted by: indamixx99
...the fact you can't hang a DLP set on the wall.

au contraire

 

[biggestmuff]

Who are these people that sit above, below and way to the side of their screens?

 

[eflat]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Who are these people that sit above, below and way to the side of their screens?

Maybe people working in the kitchen, eating dinner, doing jumping jacks in the corner..

 

[eflat]

Anyways, I ended up choosing a projector.

I went to my parents house and checked out there new 58" Plasma HDTV. Yawn.

The old screenplay 4805 (just 480i) that I have setup upstairs looks so much better. It looks like a movie theatre screen. Turn off the lights and I would swear I'm in a theater. This will work well for me too because I can center it in the room since I can just pull the screen down when I want to use it and not be bothered that it covers up the fireplace.

I do not watch television, though. Just movies. I imagine the other technologies are better if you watch TV.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: eflat
I imagine the other technologies are better if you watch TV.

Or if you watch in a lighted room.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: eflat
I do not watch television, though. Just movies. I imagine the other technologies are better if you watch TV.

Should have put that in your OP.

 

[biggestmuff]

Sticking with 480i?! /snicker, snicker

 

[gar655]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Chris
DLP viewing angles are the main strike against them.

That is what turned me off.

Me too.

 

[Baked]

I have no plans to replace the $$$ lamp after an unspecific number of hours. A good LCD is good enough for me.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Sticking with 480i?! /snicker, snicker

I'm with you. I just don't get it. WTF OP???

 

[spacejamz]

the biggest strike against DLP sets is the lamp and light engine failure rates...bulbs were failing much quicker than their estimated 8-10K life span. The bulb on my Toshiba lasted less than 1200 hours in 17 months. Read the AVS forums for the numerous issues on light engine failures for DLP sets from various manufactures.

but screen size wise, you cannot beat the price of a DLP set.

 

[eflat]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: eflat
I imagine the other technologies are better if you watch TV.

Or if you watch in a lighted room.

I don't know I think newer projectors have more than enough power to work well it a bright room.

All the projectors in my college look as bright as a TV, even with the lights on.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: eflat
Anyways, I ended up choosing a projector.

I went to my parents house and checked out there new 58" Plasma HDTV. Yawn.

The old screenplay 4805 (just 480i) that I have setup upstairs looks so much better. It looks like a movie theatre screen. Turn off the lights and I would swear I'm in a theater. This will work well for me too because I can center it in the room since I can just pull the screen down when I want to use it and not be bothered that it covers up the fireplace.

I do not watch television, though. Just movies. I imagine the other technologies are better if you watch TV.

4805 is 480p

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: spacejamz
the biggest strike against DLP sets is the lamp and light engine failure rates...bulbs were failing much quicker than their estimated 8-10K life span. The bulb on my Toshiba lasted less than 1200 hours in 17 months. Read the AVS forums for the numerous issues on light engine failures for DLP sets from various manufactures.

Yeah, but the new DLPs use LEDs... those aren't going to fail like bulbs. That's the key point some of you are missing.

 

[Christobevii3]

I just got a 5687 after my panasonic 42" plasma lasted all of 2 months. The motion on the dlp seems better side to side. The tv has the same darnkess levels as the panasonic but has the ability to be dimmed like a plasma for a movie theater effect or can have the pop like an lcd while retaining the blacks. I absoultely love the quality of the picture.

From where I set, the viewing angles don't matter, and the side to side is fine even in the guest chair only being like 8-10 feet away. The up and down viewing angle isn't bad considering you can still see it standing but who watches a movie standing?

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Christobevii3
I just got a 5687 after my panasonic 42" plasma lasted all of 2 months. The motion on the dlp seems better side to side. The tv has the same darnkess levels as the panasonic but has the ability to be dimmed like a plasma for a movie theater effect or can have the pop like an lcd while retaining the blacks. I absoultely love the quality of the picture.

From where I set, the viewing angles don't matter, and the side to side is fine even in the guest chair only being like 8-10 feet away. The up and down viewing angle isn't bad considering you can still see it standing but who watches a movie standing?

What happened to the plasma, and why did you switch???