So here's EXACTLY why I'm not going to DeVry

J3anyus

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I've always sort of had a thing against DeVry University, just because I tried to get a tour there and they wouldn't let me because I was only a junior in high school instead of a senior. Well, today a representative from DeVry came into one of my classes at school to try to recruit people. His excellent talk (note the sarcasm) was enough to convince me to never get anywhere near DeVry. Basically, here's what happened:

He came in, and started talking to us about possible paths for our futures. The first little mistake he made was when he was writing stuff on the whiteboard about what the difference between a job and a career is. He said something about how in a career, you advance, meaning you get promoted and such. So, he made a bullet point under the Career heading, and wrote "advancment". Minor spelling error, nothing that really bothered me, but I noticed it. Then, later on, he was talking about possible things we could do after high school. One thing that he mentioned was the military. So, he wrote it on the board..."militery". I thought it was sort of odd that a representative for a big high-tech school wouldn't know how to spell the word military, but I figured he was just nervous or something, and I let it go.

So, time passes, he talks about stuff, and eventually gets to how DeVry deals with admissions. He said that to get into the engineering program, a potential student would need to have "good test scores". So, I asked him what kind of ACT score they wanted. I got a nice simple answer, "20". I then proceeded to laugh my ass off, and I'm pretty sure I pissed him off. I'm sorry, but a 20 on the ACT? I could understand that being okay for a little dinky public college, but DeVry's supposed to be a big high-tech place. Anyway, the next part is the kicker.

He was listing off some of the companies that DeVry is partnered with and works closely with...Intel, Microsoft, Micron, etc. I asked him if they worked with AMD at all, and this was where I lost all respect for him. See, he'd been telling us that he was an IT major, and that he was really into computers and hardware. When I asked him if they worked with AMD, he replied with, "Who?" I thought that maybe it wasn't catching in his mind, somehow, so I told him that AMD stands for Advanced Micro Devices. He was completely clueless as to what company I was talking about. Yep. Nobody that was at the talk is planning on even considering DeVry now :)

So yeah. Take that into consideration when choosing a college :p

J3
 

drewshin

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ha ha yeah, devry is mainly a paper degree. there's people at my work that got their degree in "telecom", and dont know pretty much of anything. they're the kind of people that like to use catchwords and always say things the long way to sound good.

"I am an expert in Disk Operating System 7.0, and I have a Central Processing Unit that is at like 1 megahertz, and I have like 20 Gigabytes of memory."
 

SHoddyCOmp

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thats horrible, what a dipwad. Atleast i already know where im going to transfer to to finish up my college...
 
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Some how I look down upon degrees from Devry and other so called training places that advertise on tv. Maybe execept for university of phoneix (which has no link to the actual one).

I guess I am old schooled when I say I want to see an actual degree and not a quickie. If they do have a quickie I would like to really see if they know what they learnt. Many a times these places are there just to make money and teach you the basics and get you out there in the market as quick as possible.

I really want to see if Devry graduates get to work with Nasa stuff or not. My bet is that they arent no way to close working on stuff like the advertise their students doing so.
 

Kadarin

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<< devry = "big high-tech school"?

nuh uh :-X
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More like "cheezy trade school".. good story!
 

RudeBoie

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Like any school, you still have to work hard at DeVry, and you definitely pay a lot for it.

I consider Tech schools good for people who for sure want to be in a specialized field forever or don't have time for a 4 year school (parents often). Perhaps they like computers and computers only and can't handle regular school.

Interesting rep.

I don't remember vocational schools needing test scores though.

And that tour rule- ridiculous. What a way to treat a future student.
 

tm37

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I have worked with twp DeVry Grads....

Both were worthless. (I'm an Electronics Tech). If it is possible GO TO COLLEGE. Not going to college is one of my biggest regrets, I did get an education in the military BUT many places want College (even Devry).

I know from experence that some employers (in San Diego) really look down on DeVry, they are a paper mill. Any schooling you get is good and you would think that experence would win over education BUT it doesn;t alsways work that way. I lost out on a job to a college grad (who is a total moron) because HR said I wasn't worth the money I was seeking (50K) due to my lack of education (A school is onlyu six months). With hard work you can suceed with a subpar education, IT IS HARDER. I have been pretty fortunate to get to where I am with the "subpar" education I have. My current employer Knows my former employer, they hired me due to experence.

If it is at all possible go to college, even communuty college is better that devry and ITT. At least when you get that AA you can apply that towards a bachlor's.

If you can't afford school and can't get scholarships, the military is a option. THe schooling you receive is MUCH BETTER than most of these tech schools, and after that you can attend while you are in and get your degree. Stay single and debt free until you can support those two things.
 

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Well, I have generally the same thoughts as you but I will defend this guy to *some* extent.

He's probably just a P.R. tool. He's not a techy. It's really the same thing when you get your initial interview with the HR person at a company and try to watch her fumble through all the acronyms that are listed on her inital interview sheet.

It's not till you get to the technical interview with a supervisor or manager in the department you're applying for that you'll get somebody that knows what they are talking about.

The spelling errors are not acceptable(not that I have any room to talk), but his lack specific knowledge of technical things(including tech companies) is excusable.
 

misle

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The thing is, that guy is basically a hired salesman from DeVry. He has no idea what really goes on. He's never taught at DeVry. He is strictly a salesman.

I had a similar experience in high school with one of there hired salesman. But I decided to check out the actual school. After seeing the school and talking with the instructors, I decided to give it a shot.

DeVry isn't a bad school. I had better teachers at DeVry than I currently have at the University of Missouri. To really get a good idea about DeVry, you need to go talk to the teachers and dean of whichever dept. you plan on going into.

 

SagaLore

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yea I had one of those Devry guys at my high school many many years ago... almost joined. Also had a guy from another accelerated paced technical school come to my house, and since he had so much time between meetings he decided to stop by my house early and just sat on our couch for an hour. :eek: Then while we going through the whole thing - he kept doing simple addition wrong - and to top it off, the institute segregated the men from the women because we wouldn't be there for relationships...
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ChefJoe

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Everyone deserves and edjumacation..... but not everyone will get a "good" one.
 

randomlinh

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funny stuffs :)

altho, hiring a sales person is ok.. but he shouldn't have said he was into hardware and whatnot.... once you say that.. you sure as hell should know who AMD is.
 

Ameesh

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<sarcasm>you must go to a pretty poor school if trade schools come and talk to you guys. </sarcasm>
 

bigalt

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<< you must go to a pretty poor school if trade schools come and talk to you guys. >>


my, aren't we the cream of the crop?
 

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<< you must go to a pretty poor school if trade schools come and talk to you guys. >>


my, aren't we the cream of the crop?
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Actually Ameesh IS the cream of the crop :D

I don't know much about devry but for what it's worth I"m going to say that if you want to enter IT field right now don't go to a tech college and expect to get anywhere. That time has passed.
 

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<< you must go to a pretty poor school if trade schools come and talk to you guys. >>



He's probably in a fairly small school/community, jackass. In many small communities, where there aren't big public universities or a lot of private colleges to choose from, many students opt to go to community college or trade schools.

It's a small town thing. If you aren't from one, you won't understand.

 

Ameesh

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<< << you must go to a pretty poor school if trade schools come and talk to you guys. >>



He's probably in a fairly small school/community, jackass. In many small communities, where there aren't big public universities or a lot of private colleges to choose from, many students opt to go to community college or trade schools.

It's a small town thing. If you aren't from one, you won't understand.
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actually i was just teasin this guy for making fun of the devry guy, so he made few spelling mistakes and didnt know what AMD was, obviously hes not into computers as much as you are theres no reason to laugh at him during his presentation. If you're so smart you'd know that Devry may not be the best school around, but it helps a lot of people move up to a better style of life.