So Hearthstone is a card game without physical cards?

[Jumpem]

My six year old wants a card game, and I was looking for something other than Pokémon.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

My six year old wants a card game, and I was looking for something other than Pokémon.

and world of warcraft is a game without physical dragons

 

[Subyman]

Part of the culture of physical card games was the trading aspect and the real dollar value attached to certain cards. It is hard to call the new digital, closed games "collectable" when you can't enjoy all the socials aspects that come with trading with friends and showing off your collection.

If she is only looking for a game to play then Hearthstone is great because it is free and easy to get going. If you think she will enjoy trading cards, looking them up online, and amassing a physical collection then Hearthstone is not that. It was never meant to be that though. Wow does have a physical card game as well if, for some reason, you are wanting to stay within Blizzard's IP.

 

[Red Storm]

As a parent, why on earth would you want to get your kids into physical trading cards? Is the goal to waste money?

Let em play Hearthstone for free.

 

[Jumpem]

As a parent, why on earth would you want to get your kids into physical trading cards? Is the goal to waste money?

Let em play Hearthstone for free.

A couple kids in his kindergarten class play Pokémon. I was looking for something similar but less anime.

I wonder if I could create another logon on my Battle.net account for him to play on his Kindle Fire HDX? I don't want to have to setup another PC right now.

 

[datalink7]

As a parent, why on earth would you want to get your kids into physical trading cards? Is the goal to waste money?

Let em play Hearthstone for free.

Because physical card games have personal interaction, and are fun, neither of which are wastes of money.

 

[lupi]

Because physical card games have personal interaction, and are fun, neither of which are wastes of money.

Average cost for the cards themselves though are absurd if you look at the % markup on them.

 

[Aikouka]

Well, one advantage for a kid can be all the whiz-bang-boom that you don't get out of physical cards. In other words, you get the voices and animations and stuff that can make a game just seem "more magical", but he's still playing the same sort of card game.

One nice thing about Hearthstone for a younger kid is that there's no in-game chat or voice communications, which means there's no worry about indecent language and such. The only communication you get is a small set of emotes like "Sorry", "Greetings", and "Well Played".

 

[datalink7]

Average cost for the cards themselves though are absurd if you look at the % markup on them.

That's true. But I was specifically answering his question.

 

[MongGrel]

And the complete decline of the country continues.

I wonder how any old baseball cards were lost in the past just messing around being a kid growing up etc.

 

[pontifex]

A couple kids in his kindergarten class play Pokémon. I was looking for something similar but less anime.

I wonder if I could create another logon on my Battle.net account for him to play on his Kindle Fire HDX? I don't want to have to setup another PC right now.

so you don't want him to play with the other kids? i don't get it.

 

[Jumpem]

so you don't want him to play with the other kids? i don't get it.

I just don't like Pokémon. The Japanese cartoons are strange.

 

[pontifex]

I just don't like Pokémon. The Japanese cartoons are strange.

apparently you haven't watched ANY American cartoons lately...

i'm not quite sure i understand the point of all this. i assume your son wants pokemon so he can play with the other kids? Is that the thing that sparked this question?

I mean even if you bought him some other card game, he wouldn't have anyone to play it with, it's not like you can mix pokemon with magic the gathering or something.

and a PC card game is completely different.

Jumpem's Son: Hey guys, look what I got! Magic the Gathering.
Other kids: Ok, thats cool, but we're playing Pokemon.
Jumpem's Son: I hate you dad!

or

Jumpem's son: Hey guys, i'm playing hearthstone on PC at home
Other kids: Ok, thats cool, but we're playing Pokemon here.
Jumpem's Son: I hate you dad!

 

[Anteaus]

My six year old wants a card game, and I was looking for something other than Pokémon.

Instead of asking here you should be visiting your local comic book/desktop gaming shop with your six year old. There a number of card games that can recommended on the spot and you can gauge your child's reaction at the same time.

Many of the people here can offer sound advice, but physical games aren't the focus of this group and you might not get informed of all available options. The fact that all you have gotten here was am unwarranted debate on the virtue of physical card games should be your motivation to go shopping.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Average cost for the cards themselves though are absurd if you look at the % markup on them.

Not if you're willing to buy the entire box in bulk from someplace online. for example a single booster pack for Pokemon XY Roaring Skies is about $4. A box has 36 booster packs. You can buy the whole box online for $89. You save $55 if you buy the entire box. You'll no doubt get duplicates in that box but you can always trade them off to friends who play as well. I used to do this about 15 years ago when Yu-Gi-Oh was more popular.

Really though if he wants to play with his friends you need to leave your bias out of it OP. They're playing Pokemon which is innocent enough. Buy a starter deck and a few booster packs and let him play. When he learns, if he learns the intricacies of the game and what cards are desirable, he can hunt down specific cards. For all we know right now he may just want to feel like he's part of the group and will soon tire of it and move on to something else quickly.

There was a time when I wanted to try getting into Magic the Gathering but there's so many different series and sets that I felt overwhelmed and the game was more complicated than I first believed. Gave up on it for those reasons.

 

[Subyman]

Most kids don't need a ton of cards. I had a great time when I was younger playing Magic and I only got the starter kit and a few bonus packs. I remember messing with those with friends for two years or so. The WoW CCG starter decks are ~$15. They are so common that Walmart and Target carry them, which makes it easy when you need an incentive. "Clean your room and we will go get a pack of cards."

One $60 AAA game can set you back more than enough cards for the kid to have fun with for a summer.

Also, if kids at the school are already playing Pokemon, then just get those. CCGs are best with friends that play the same cards.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Also I forgot to mention. Hearthstone is a pay for power game. Meaning that the RNG is so unfavorable to you in getting the right cards that it nearly forces you to spend real money to get anywhere. It has been a while since I looked at it but I remember figuring it would take months to reach the current metagame and by that time it would have shifted and you'd be left behind again. Or you could pour over $100 into it into it and get there in less than a day. This was because all the best players were using the same few legendary cards and each win gives you only a few gold, and 100 gold is equal to so many dust and you need 1600 dust to buy the legendary card of your choice. You might win half your games and if you play a few hours a day you can potentially win 90 gold per day or so. So it's almost 1 month per legendary card unless you have absurd luck. However, Blizzard makes it so that RNG is never in your favor so you'll rely on buying them.

It is free to play but believe you me, it most definitely encourages pay to win. Maybe things have changed but I doubt it.

 

[Aikouka]

The WoW CCG starter decks are ~$15. They are so common that Walmart and Target carry them, which makes it easy when you need an incentive. "Clean your room and we will go get a pack of cards."

The WoW TCG is gone. Hearthstone has replaced it.

Also I forgot to mention. Hearthstone is a pay for power game. Meaning that the RNG is so unfavorable to you in getting the right cards that it nearly forces you to spend real money to get anywhere. It has been a while since I looked at it but I remember figuring it would take months to reach the current metagame and by that time it would have shifted and you'd be left behind again.

Oh, no... it definitely still has a strong money-oriented aspect to it. Sure, you can win and reach a high rank without money (if your name is Trump), but can most people? No. Hearthstone really needs a free version of Arena. If they want to get people to not play that too much (because it doesn't make them any money obviously), just limit it to a few times per day (and those times don't accumulate).

 

[Wingznut]

Also I forgot to mention. Hearthstone is a pay for power game. Meaning that the RNG is so unfavorable to you in getting the right cards that it nearly forces you to spend real money to get anywhere. It has been a while since I looked at it but I remember figuring it would take months to reach the current metagame and by that time it would have shifted and you'd be left behind again. Or you could pour over $100 into it into it and get there in less than a day. This was because all the best players were using the same few legendary cards and each win gives you only a few gold, and 100 gold is equal to so many dust and you need 1600 dust to buy the legendary card of your choice. You might win half your games and if you play a few hours a day you can potentially win 90 gold per day or so. So it's almost 1 month per legendary card unless you have absurd luck. However, Blizzard makes it so that RNG is never in your favor so you'll rely on buying them.

It is free to play but believe you me, it most definitely encourages pay to win. Maybe things have changed but I doubt it.

A 6 yr old isn't going to care about that.

 

[cmdrdredd]

A 6 yr old isn't going to care about that.

No but the one with the credit card will.

 

[Wingznut]

A 6 yr old isn't going to care about that.

No but the one with the credit card will.

What I'm saying is that a 6 yr old isn't going to care about reaching "the current metagame."

 

[cmdrdredd]

What I'm saying is that a 6 yr old isn't going to care about reaching "the current metagame."

I see yeah...maybe. That is if they don't mind playing with people they don't know. Which goes back to what I said before. Get a starter deck of Pokemon from the latest series and get a few booster packs and let him learn the game. It's kind of like picking a platform for a specific game or which console to buy. Friends you can play with matter more.

 

[Subyman]

The WoW TCG is gone. Hearthstone has replaced it.

I'm behind the times

 

[sweenish]

Of all the animes that exist, Pokemon is one of the least strange. Add to that, its central themes all revolve being kind to animals and being a good friend/person. Can't have that influencing your child.

The Japanese cartoons are strange.

I just can't believe how nearly everyone just let that blind bias slide.

 

[Wingznut]

I see yeah...maybe. That is if they don't mind playing with people they don't know. Which goes back to what I said before. Get a starter deck of Pokemon from the latest series and get a few booster packs and let him learn the game. It's kind of like picking a platform for a specific game or which console to buy. Friends you can play with matter more.

I couldn't agree more. :thumbsup: