So, ever wonder how tough a M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank really is? Amazing story inside.

yllus

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Taken from Tom Clancy's non-fiction Armored Cav: A Guided Tour of an Armored Cavalry Regiment:

The setting: Desert Storm, during General Barry McCaffrey's 24th Mechanized Infantry Division's run to the Euphrates River. It was raining heavily, and one M1 managed to get stuck in a mud hole and could not be extracted. With the rest of their unit moving on, the crew of the stuck tank waited for a recovery vehicle to pull them out.

Suddenly, as they were waiting, three Iraqi T-72 tanks came over a hill and charged the mud-bogged tank. One T-72 fired a high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) round that hit the frontal turret armor of the M1, but did no damage. At this point, the crew of the M1, though still stuck, fired a 120mm armor-piercing round at the attacking tank. The round penetrated the T-72's turret, blowing it off into the air. By this time, the second T-72 had also fired a HEAT round at the M1. That also hit the front of the turret, and did no damage. The M1 immediately dispatched this T-72 with another 120mm round.

After that, the third and now last T-72 fired a 125mm armor-piercing round at the M1 from a range of 400 meters. This only grooved the front armor plate. Seeing that continued action did not have much of a future, the crew of the last T-72 decided to run for cover. Spying a nearby sand berm, the Iraqis darted behind it, thinking they would be safe there. Back in the M1, the crew saw through the Thermal Imaging Sight (TIS) the hot plume of the T-72's engine exhaust spewing up from behind the berm. Aiming carefully through the TIS, the M1's crew fired a third 120mm round through the berm, into the tank, destroying it.

By this time, as you might imagine, the crewmen of the M1 were getting extremely agitated and making this fact known to anyone who would listen over the radio net. Help in the form of another M1-equipped unit arrived shortly afterwards, and they began trying to extract the stuck M1 from the mud hole. Unfortunately, the Abrams was really and truly stuck. And despite the efforts of two M88 tank-recovery vehicles, the tank would not come loose.

Ordered to abandon the stuck Abrams, the other M1s began to fire their own 120mm guns in an attempt to destroy it. The first two rounds failed to penetrate the armor of the mud-bound tank. When a third round was fired from a favorable angle, it finally penetrated the outer skin of the turret, causing the stored ammunition to detonate. But rather than destroying the M1, the blast was vented upwards through a blowout panel, and the onboard fire-suppression system snuffed out the fire before it could do any real damage to the electronic systems in the crew compartment.

By this time, further M88 recovery vehicles arrived. Along with the two earlier M88s, they finally managed to pull the tank out of the mud. Upon examination, the M1 was found to be operational, with only the sights out of alignment from the blast of the ammunition cooking off. The M1 was taken beack to the divisional repair yard, where the damaged turret was removed and replaced, and the tank returned to action.

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Hope you guys enjoyed this, because I had to type the entire thing up from the book. :p Armored cavalry OWNS.

Cliff notes for the reading impaired:

- M1A1 Abrams tank gets stuck in mud hole, rest of its unit goes on ahead leaving it alone
- 3 Iraqi T-72 tanks surprise charge the stuck M1 tank
- T-72 #1 fires and hits the M1 with its main gun, doing no damage
- M1 crew responds by firing back, destroying T-72 #1
- T-72 #2 fires and hits the M1 with its main gun, doing no damage
- M1 crew responds by firing back, destroying T-72 #2
- T-72 #3 fires and hits the M1 with its main gun from 400m, slightly denting front armor
- T-72 #3 decides to get the fsck out of there and hides behind a sand dune
- M1 crew uses thermal imaging to locate T-72 #3 by its engine exhaust, fires through sand dune, destroying T-72 #3
- M1 crew links up with a new unit, recovery vehicles still can't get the tank loose
- Order is given to destroy the tank and move on, so fellow M1 tanks fire main guns twice on the tank, failing to penetrate armor
- Third round is fired at stuck tank, manages to destroy stored ammo inside but fire suppression system quickly limits the damage
- More recovery vehicles arrive and finally pull stuck M1 tank loose
- M1 tank is found to be still operational, and is put back in service after a turret change/realign
 

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"Why won't you just die?!"

That's pretty cool. Those iraqi tanks are no match for something like an M1. IIRC the hit rate on those things is at least 80% in combat, because the computerized targeting just kicks all ass.
 

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Didn't we lose 2 in this war though? I think it was to some soviet missiles.
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: OulOat
Didn't we lose 2 in this war though? I think it was to some soviet missiles.
"Not one M1A1 was put out of action by enemy direct fire, and only one M1 crewman was killed, a tank commander standing in his hatch when ammunition and fuel exploded inside an enemy vehicle he had just knocked out."

He notes earlier a couple also had their tracks/road wheels knocked out by land mines.

 

Koing

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Wow man.

Nice read and thanks for typing it up.

Koing
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: beer
There's mud in Iraq? I thought it was just sand and camels
Stop trolling.

And an M1 tank would do just fine against guerilla insurgencies, only we choose to be more discriminating about our fields of fire than that. If it came to that they could just carpet bomb the area from a B-52 in the air anyway.
 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: beer
Too bad the M1's don't do much against guerilla insurgencies.

insurgencies? WTF is that??

he is saying this: a main battle tank is bad at guerilla warfare.

insurgencies=rebellions. sort of, anyway.

I agree somewhat, but not completely. Parking an M1-A1 at a street corner will probably discourage any enemies that are within a few blocks.
 

petery83

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this reminds me of that thread from a while back...would you feel safe sitting in a M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank during a tornado? :)
 

beer

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: beer
Too bad the M1's don't do much against guerilla insurgencies.

insurgencies? WTF is that??

he is saying this: a main battle tank is bad at guerilla warfare.

insurgencies=rebellions. sort of, anyway.

I agree somewhat, but not completely. Parking an M1-A1 at a street corner will probably discourage any enemies that are within a few blocks.

No it doesn't. If someone shoots a soldier on foot 3 blocks away, what is the tank going to do, fire a 120mm shell into a crowded market?

The army needs a more mobile armored cavalry that isn't an RPG magnet.
 

beer

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Originally posted by: petery83
this reminds me of that thread from a while back...would you feel safe sitting in a M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank during a tornado? :)

given the weight, you betcha :)
 

AvesPKS

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Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: OulOat
Didn't we lose 2 in this war though? I think it was to some soviet missiles.
"Not one M1A1 was put out of action by enemy direct fire, and only one M1 crewman was killed, a tank commander standing in his hatch when ammunition and fuel exploded inside an enemy vehicle he had just knocked out."

He notes earlier a couple also had their tracks/road wheels knocked out by land mines.

Does Clancy's book cover the current conflict in Iraq? I believe that's what he's referring to, that we lost some tanks in the current conflict in Iraq.
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Does Clancy's book cover the current conflict in Iraq? I believe that's what he's referring to, that we lost some tanks in the current conflict in Iraq.
Oh. No, the book in question was printed in 1994.

Considering the armor of most tanks (including the M1 Abrams) is thinnest on the very top, if it was gonna go down I guess it would be via missile. One of the true military types on this forum can verify this, but I think most anti-tank missiles intentionally shoot up into the air, then come down at its target from above to exploit this weak point.
 

TheBoyBlunder

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: beer
Too bad the M1's don't do much against guerilla insurgencies.

insurgencies? WTF is that??

he is saying this: a main battle tank is bad at guerilla warfare.

insurgencies=rebellions. sort of, anyway.

I agree somewhat, but not completely. Parking an M1-A1 at a street corner will probably discourage any enemies that are within a few blocks.

Then they run up, drop C-4 all around your tank and blow you up because your teammates are too busy being plane whores or snipers and missing everything.