So Cal Edison just gave me a "Climate Credit".......Awww, how thoughtful of them.....

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redgtxdi

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So long story short, I set up reminders to pay online stuff I want to review before paying & my Edison bill is one of them. This time my bill was a whopping $13. I haven't had a $13 electric bill since 1989. (I think SCE's minimum bill is like $20, right? LOL)

Anyway, I view the bill in pdf and notice it says some crap about "You rec'd a California Climate Credit". In fact, "Millions of Californians rec'd this credit!".

Ok, so I'm very much a "no free lunch" advocate & follow the dead-presidents trail........This is some cap & trade, big business emissions buy-out program (no emissions are saved, big biz simply gets held by the juevos to pay SCE/AQMD/OSHA to be allowed to pollute) and here's the best part.......they simply turn around & give it (some of it anyway) to Californians as credits in their electric bills.

Here's the best part.......This accomplishes nothing environmentally........could probably have saved EVERYONE $$$ if we could eliminate the middle men,(Just pass a law that says everybody w/ a meter gets $20) yet has done just that.......created a more beaurocracy!!

Yay!!! All hail "more government". :rolleyes:
 
DominionSeraph

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English, do you speak it?

E: After going through your other posts, I see the answer is, "No."
Save us from stream-of-consciousness posters, especially ones who use, "LOL." LOL.

LOL.
 
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Tweak155

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redgtxdi said:
So long story short, I set up reminders to pay online stuff I want to review before paying & my Edison bill is one of them. This time my bill was a whopping $13. I haven't had a $13 electric bill since 1989. (I think SCE's minimum bill is like $20, right? LOL)

Anyway, I view the bill in pdf and notice it says some crap about "You rec'd a California Climate Credit". In fact, "Millions of Californians rec'd this credit!".

Ok, so I'm very much a "no free lunch" advocate & follow the dead-presidents trail........This is some cap & trade, big business emissions buy-out program (no emissions are saved, big biz simply gets held by the juevos to pay SCE/AQMD/OSHA to be allowed to pollute) and here's the best part.......they simply turn around & give it (some of it anyway) to Californians as credits in their electric bills.

Here's the best part.......This accomplishes nothing environmentally........could probably have saved EVERYONE $$$ if we could eliminate the middle men,(Just pass a law that says everybody w/ a meter gets $20) yet has done just that.......created a more beaurocracy!!

Yay!!! All hail "more government". :rolleyes:
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Hm, there are two best parts. Now I don't know which part is the best :(
 
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Cap and trade is about getting companies to pay for 3rd party effects of pollution. While the fees may be mainly arbitrary, its at least an attempt to try something new, rather than just capping and banning.

However, knowing CA (grew up in Merced/Modesto) they will do it in the worst way possible. Corruption will mean the program gets turned into fodder for those who did not want the program, and the cycle goes on.
 
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Gonad the Barbarian said:
Posting in a thread that's bitching about big government over a $13 power bill.
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(EDIT sarcasm, the guy's been around since '99) ;)

Ok, so the gist of my otherwise sarcastically worded retort is.........the price of the bill is $13. What that $13 will cost all of us???? Who knows.

You see, there's no free lunch. Whatever good and/or service the company from whom I/we indirectly received that $40 "climate credit" provides is simply going to make up the difference by upping the price on that said good and/or service accordingly.

Just like the feds, Cali doesn't have a money-tree growing on the lawn of the capitol building in Sacto. They have to redistribute wealth to do things like this. Unfortunately, when "millions of other Californians" get this same credit, that simply means that those same "millions of other Californians" will be paying it back.

The only difference is that instead of the large corp simply giving the "millions of Californians" money, it must now run thru a filter......(Calgov, OSHA, AQMD, whoever else)......and that filter does not HELP anybody. Not the big corp it took from. Not the citizens it's handing out "bonuses" too. No one! It's a smoke & mirrors show by somebody selling snake oil as environmental stewardship.

o_O
 
DominionSeraph

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"Took off from Australia, landed in China"
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But remember folks, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
 
RockinZ28

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I went online to pay my bill for $23, only to realize it was -$23. Fine by me.
 
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