So are Republicans going to shut down the government over Planned Parenthood?

[CitizenKain]

...whereas you guys want to kill the kid.

While you want the entire family to suffer. How "christian" of you.

 

[Atreus21]

While you want the entire family to suffer. How "christian" of you.

Yeah. If only we could kill everyone who might make their family suffer. It's so easy.

I suppose your parents never suffered to support you. You just came out the womb potty-trained, eating solid foods, and gainfully employed.

 

[dank69]

Who said anything about ethnicity?

Your argument is that we should preemptively eliminate the disadvantaged.

That's eugenics.

People who are not poor get abortions as well.

...whereas you guys want to kill the kid.

No, we prefer to prevent it from ever becoming a kid.

 

[CitizenKain]

Yeah. If only we could kill everyone who might make their family suffer. It's so easy.

I suppose your parents never suffered to support you. You just came out the womb potty-trained, eating solid foods, and gainfully employed.

Or you know, provide the family with low cost birth control. Which is something PP does.

 

[dank69]

Yeah. If only we could kill everyone who might make their family suffer. It's so easy.

I suppose your parents never suffered to support you. You just came out the womb potty-trained, eating solid foods, and gainfully employed.

His parents made that choice. You want to make that choice for everyone.

 

[ivwshane]

Cheers, then.

So you don't understand the difference between improving one owns life and improving the human species?

Do you understand the difference between people and a person because it certainly doesn't seem like it.

 

[ivwshane]

Yeah. If only we could kill everyone who might make their family suffer. It's so easy.

I suppose your parents never suffered to support you. You just came out the womb potty-trained, eating solid foods, and gainfully employed.

Shove your straw man up your ass!

 

[Atreus21]

Or you know, provide the family with low cost birth control. Which is something PP does.

So does Walgreen's.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

...whereas you guys want to kill the kid.

Liars for Jesus. No integrity at all.

 

[Atreus21]

So you don't understand the difference between improving one owns life and improving the human species?

I don't understand that rationale of killing to improve another's quality of life, no.

Do you understand the difference between people and a person because it certainly doesn't seem like it.

Ironic, because it seems to me that you guys make a tactic of drawing arbitrary distinctions between people in order to get to your desired end. Then you act as if those distinctions have a scientific basis.

 

[CitizenKain]

So does Walgreen's.

So Walgreens does IUDs now? And they can write prescriptions?

 

[Atreus21]

So Walgreens does IUDs now? And they can write prescriptions?

And IUDs are the only method of birth control? And no one else can write prescriptions for such things but Planned Parenthood?

 

[trenchfoot]

Shutting down PP is merely moving a piece on a chess board for the Repubs in Congress. It's not a matter of what's right or wrong as the Constitution and the Bill of Rights dictate. Issues that irritate the tender nerve endings of the constituents they have cultivated to their liking is what they're concentrating on because that's what's gets these Repubs elected/re-elected so as to remain in power.

They are exploiting the hair trigger they have imbued their constituents with in regards to all of those single issues that have nothing to do with good governance, economic prosperity and the raising of the quality of lives for all.

They're doing these things because they have nothing of substance to offer those constituents who want better jobs, who want secure borders, who want their children to have a better chance of climbing the ladder of success.

Instead, what these constituents are getting is a rehash of how their lives will get much better if they only allow the rich to get much richer to the point where they will have the incentive to create the jobs these folks are asking for. And we already know what a bunch of proven BS that is.

The Repubs in Congress have nothing positive to offer the vast majority of the nation that are the typical hard working hourly paid/salaried class, so they are left with the only option left: divert attention away from their faults and failings by incessantly attacking the folks that do have a plan to help the average working stiff.

The Repubs in Congress have identified and branded those Dem politicians who are pushing legislation to help the average Joe as being Anti-American, morally deprived heathen that only wish to destroy the nation in its entirety by drowning it in red ink while these same Repub politicians are working tirelessly to dismantle those essential services that benefit the vast majority so that they can continue to give more and more tax breaks NOT to everyone, but almost exclusively to the very rich.

Planned Parenthood helps the average American exercise the rights guaranteed to them by the Constitution/Bill of Rights. The Repubs in Congress are creating and exacerbating a diversive and divisive issue that, for reasons previously mentioned, only benefit themselves, the very rich whose interests they represent and in this particular case, a core group of influential fundamentalists that wish to dictate terms to the masses via denying them their constitutional rights.

 

[soundforbjt]

And IUDs are the only method of birth control? And no one else can write prescriptions for such things but Planned Parenthood?

Not for free, which you know poor people aren't rich.

 

[Atreus21]

Not for free, which you know poor people aren't rich.

http://plannedparenthood.tumblr.com/post/28521852221/how-much-does-an-iud-cost

The IUD is the most inexpensive long-term and reversible form of birth control you can get. Unlike other forms of birth control, the IUD only costs money in the beginning. The cost for the medical exam, the IUD, the insertion of the IUD and follow-up visits to your health care provider can range from $500 to $900.

No insurance. $500 to $900.

That doesn't sound very free.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's looking like Republicans have inexplicably decided that they have the American people on their side over this planned parenthood thing, and are gearing up for yet another budget showdown with a shutdown at stake. Have they learned nothing from the previous shutdown debacle, or the one before that during the Clinton years? If their reality bubble is anything like my facebook feed here in Alabama, I guess I can see how they form this perception, as the condemnation of planned parenthood would appear near universal.

Surely Boehner is smart enough not to let the crazies in his party lead them down the road to another political disaster, right?

ps. Before any defenders of this try to suggest that it would be democrats shutting down the government and not Republicans, do remember how well that argument played out last time during the Obamacare shutdown. Hint..nobody was buying it.

Irrationality among the Repub base cannot be maintained w/o constant reinforcement through pandering.

Radical elements in the party demand that Boehner go out on the ledge to shout their message but he has no intention of jumping. He's survived the fall in the past, 'tis true, but he starts a little further off the ground every time.

 

[DrDoug]

Shutting down PP is merely moving a piece on a chess board for the Repubs in Congress. It's not a matter of what's right or wrong as the Constitution and the Bill of Rights dictate. Issues that irritate the tender nerve endings of the constituents they have cultivated to their liking is what they're concentrating on because that's what's gets these Repubs elected/re-elected so as to remain in power.

They are exploiting the hair trigger they have imbued their constituents with in regards to all of those single issues that have nothing to do with good governance, economic prosperity and the raising of the quality of lives for all.

They're doing these things because they have nothing of substance to offer those constituents who want better jobs, who want secure borders, who want their children to have a better chance of climbing the ladder of success.

Instead, what these constituents are getting is a rehash of how their lives will get much better if they only allow the rich to get much richer to the point where they will have the incentive to create the jobs these folks are asking for. And we already know what a bunch of proven BS that is.

The Repubs in Congress have nothing positive to offer the vast majority of the nation that are the typical hard working hourly paid/salaried class, so they are left with the only option left: divert attention away from their faults and failings by incessantly attacking the folks that do have a plan to help the average working stiff.

The Repubs in Congress have identified and branded those Dem politicians who are pushing legislation to help the average Joe as being Anti-American, morally deprived heathen that only wish to destroy the nation in its entirety by drowning it in red ink while these same Repub politicians are working tirelessly to dismantle those essential services that benefit the vast majority so that they can continue to give more and more tax breaks NOT to everyone, but almost exclusively to the very rich.

Planned Parenthood helps the average American exercise the rights guaranteed to them by the Constitution/Bill of Rights. The Repubs in Congress are creating and exacerbating a diversive and divisive issue that, for reasons previously mentioned, only benefit themselves, the very rich whose interests they represent and in this particular case, a core group of influential fundamentalists that wish to dictate terms to the masses via denying them their constitutional rights.

Conservative leaders know that their believers are like cattle, all they have to do is spook them and they will run rampant. Want to go to Iraq for some military adventures? Spook the cattle with threats of an Iraq with poison gas and nukes. Want to shut down an organization that helps poor minorities? Spook the cattle with lies about ACORN. Want to shut down Planned Parenthood? Spook the cattle with lies about them.

And on and on and on it goes...

An election is coming and the Republicans are hard at work spooking their cattle, as usual. They don't want to talk about the economy or jobs, nope. They will pay it lip service at best. What matters most is spooking their cattle so they can pull off another term in office.

 

[theeedude]

And IUDs are the only method of birth control? And no one else can write prescriptions for such things but Planned Parenthood?

How about women decide what birth control to use and who they want their health care provider to be, and not you and/or Republican men in Congress? How does that sound?

 

[First]

http://plannedparenthood.tumblr.com/post/28521852221/how-much-does-an-iud-cost


No insurance. $500 to $900.

That doesn't sound very free.

Virtually all insurance covers IUDs 100%. In fact it's one of the few things insurance covers 100%. You know why? Cause insurance companies are eugenicists! lol. No but really, your whole conception of eugenics and what "life" is, is terribly flawed. There is no standard, agreed upon definition of human life and when it begins. In science class, you tend to learn the word "life" means very different things depending on the context.

 

[Blackjack200]

How about women decide what birth control to use and who they want their health care provider to be, and not you and/or Republican men in Congress? How does that sound?

LOL!

Oh wait, you're serious?

 

[Blackjack200]

Virtually all insurance covers IUDs 100%. In fact it's one of the few things insurance covers 100%. You know why? Cause insurance companies are eugenicists! lol. No but really, your whole conception of eugenics and what "life" is, is terribly flawed. There is no standard, agreed upon definition of human life and when it begins. In science class, you tend to learn the word "life" means very different things depending on the context.

I love that the people that want women to make their own reproductive decisions are the eugenicists, and the ones that want the state to control them are not. It's adorable.

 

[VRAMdemon]

republicans seem to be for Unplanned parenthood

 

[Fern]

It's looking like Republicans have inexplicably decided that they have the American people on their side over this planned parenthood thing, and are gearing up for yet another budget showdown with a shutdown at stake. Have they learned nothing from the previous shutdown debacle, or the one before that during the Clinton years? If their reality bubble is anything like my facebook feed here in Alabama, I guess I can see how they form this perception, as the condemnation of planned parenthood would appear near universal.

Surely Boehner is smart enough not to let the crazies in his party lead them down the road to another political disaster, right?

ps. Before any defenders of this try to suggest that it would be democrats shutting down the government and not Republicans, do remember how well that argument played out last time during the Obamacare shutdown. Hint..nobody was buying it.

Do you have any reliable links supporting this claim? I've never heard this claim.

Fern

 

[michal1980]

Government money PP gets doesn't even get used for abortions.

Hows that?

 

[werepossum]

I find the whole Planned Parenthood outrage odd; GOP will never convince women to give up their privacy rights, and faux outrage about legit fetal tissue harvesting may stoke the pro-life nutters who believe abortion is murder, but it just galvanizes/organizes the pro-choice left as much or more.

I may be wrong, but I find it very difficult to believe that the pro-abortion left is as much or more galvanized and organized by the prospect of abortion clinics not being allowed to sell aborted babies for parts as the anti-abortion right is about the practice of abortion clinics selling aborted babies for parts. Human beings should not be sold, period, either before or after death. Full disclosure: I am the pro-abortion right so this may not be a common position, but I just can't imagine that very many people are excited about the "right" to sell dead humans for parts.