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fskimospy

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God help us.

PLANNED PARENTHOOD CLINIC CUT THROUGH DEAD BABY’S FACE TO GET HIS INTACT BRAIN
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...t-through-babys-face-to-get-his-intact-brain/

You know, I feel like a democrat now. I really, really hope this lady is lying.

GRUESOME NEWS:

DOCTORS SAW THROUGH DEAD MAN'S CHEST AND RIP OUT HIS RECENTLY BEATING HEART. THEY THEN MOVE ON TO SCOOP HIS EYEBALLS OUT OF THE SOCKETS OF HIS SKULL, ALL SO THAT THEY CAN GIFT THESE HORRIFYING RELICS TO OTHERS, ALL IN THE NAME OF "ORGAN TRANSPLANTS".

Are you serious? This is one (of many) reasons why reading Breitbart is stupid. Go watch a surgery video sometime, medicine is an ugly business.
 

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No. But one would hope normal people feel a twinge of unease at the notion of cutting open a baby's face to get his brain.

Those words don't mean what you think they mean.

Cutting open body parts is pretty standard fare for medicine. I'm not sure what planet you're living on where cutting into the face of an aborted fetus makes you squirm any more than the sight of a standard, "unsullied" aborted fetus. The issue for you is abortion in general, not the "baby" face being cut open. And I'm sorry to tell you, but while babies and life are precious, so is having the most important choice of your life determined by your own actions.
 

Atreus21

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Those words don't mean what you think they mean.

Cutting open body parts is pretty standard fare for medicine. I'm not sure what planet you're living on where cutting into the face of an aborted fetus makes you squirm any more than the sight of a standard, "unsullied" aborted fetus. The issue for you is abortion in general, not the "baby" face being cut open. And I'm sorry to tell you, but while babies and life are precious, so is having the most important choice of your life determined by your own actions.

The issue for me, yes, is abortion in general. A secondary issue for me is the extent to which the left really does believe that the target here isn't a human being. I have labored under the misapprehension that if abortion proponents actually saw or heard the reality of it (namely a fully-developed child having its brain extracted), they'd snap out of this. But I confess I underestimated the zeal with which you guys defend the act, and that shakes me.

That children are gleefully used for their body parts and organs, then tossed into the trash, shakes me.
 

fskimospy

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The issue for me, yes, is abortion in general. A secondary issue for me is the extent to which the left really does believe that the target here isn't a human being. I have labored under the misapprehension that if abortion proponents actually saw or heard the reality of it (namely a fully-developed child having its brain extracted), they'd snap out of this. But I confess I underestimated the zeal with which you guys defend the act, and that shakes me.

If you saw the reality of organ donation would you suddenly oppose that?

Here's the thing: you labor under the misapprehension that a fertilized egg is equal to a fully grown human life, but even when confronted with a thought puzzle that inescapeably shows you why that's impossible to believe I haven't seen you 'snap out of it'.

Depending on how you ask the question either a large majority or a simply modest majority of this country supports abortion. Do you think all those millions and millions of people are all zealots, or do you think there might be something else at work?

That children are gleefully used for their body parts and organs, then tossed into the trash, shakes me.

'Gleefully'? I can't say I've ever noticed any glee. What I have noticed is people using that tissue to save tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or even millions of lives though. I guess now that you mention it saving all those lives is something to be pretty happy about.
 

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The issue for me, yes, is abortion in general. A secondary issue for me is the extent to which the left really does believe that the target here isn't a human being. I have labored under the misapprehension that if abortion proponents actually saw or heard the reality of it (namely a fully-developed child having its brain extracted), they'd snap out of this. But I confess I underestimated the zeal with which you guys defend the act, and that shakes me.

That children are gleefully used for their body parts and organs, then tossed into the trash, shakes me.

:rolleyes:

No person gleefully does that, and certainly it's hard to imagine many women "gleefully" deciding to have an abortion. Most women believe it should be their choice, while also believing that the right decision is usually not to have the abortion. Frankly, it's repressive and outdated to think the government should make a decision such as this anymore.
 

werepossum

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If you saw the reality of organ donation would you suddenly oppose that?

Here's the thing: you labor under the misapprehension that a fertilized egg is equal to a fully grown human life, but even when confronted with a thought puzzle that inescapeably shows you why that's impossible to believe I haven't seen you 'snap out of it'.

Depending on how you ask the question either a large majority or a simply modest majority of this country supports abortion. Do you think all those millions and millions of people are all zealots, or do you think there might be something else at work?



'Gleefully'? I can't say I've ever noticed any glee. What I have noticed is people using that tissue to save tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or even millions of lives though. I guess now that you mention it saving all those lives is something to be pretty happy about.
Here's a thought puzzle for you: How can an abortionist cut through a fertilized egg's face to extract the fertilized egg's brain whole, undamaged, and at prime value? Must be a damned big egg cell, eh?
 

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Here's a thought puzzle for you: How can an abortionist cut through a fertilized egg's face to extract the fertilized egg's brain whole, undamaged, and at prime value? Must be a damned big egg cell, eh?

It's a big, totally non-viable fetus with a face.
 

lotus503

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The issue for me, yes, is abortion in general. A secondary issue for me is the extent to which the left really does believe that the target here isn't a human being. I have labored under the misapprehension that if abortion proponents actually saw or heard the reality of it (namely a fully-developed child having its brain extracted), they'd snap out of this. But I confess I underestimated the zeal with which you guys defend the act, and that shakes me.

That children are gleefully used for their body parts and organs, then tossed into the trash, shakes me.

Did you have eggs for breakfast this morning or a chicken?
 

werepossum

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It's a big, totally non-viable fetus with a face.
Meh. Every fetus is "totally non-viable" after you kill it. For that matter, every adult too. Can't wait until we start selling those for parts.

Since these aren't babies but merely "fertilized eggs" or "big, totally non-viable fetus[es]" and considering that most women getting abortions are poor, would you guys be okay with the poor women just selling the aborted babies for whatever they can get? Say sort of an Ebay auction house where poor women could redress society's wrongs by parting out their, um, fetuses.
 

ivwshane

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Meh. Every fetus is "totally non-viable" after you kill it. For that matter, every adult too. Can't wait until we start selling those for parts.

Since these aren't babies but merely "fertilized eggs" or "big, totally non-viable fetus[es]" and considering that most women getting abortions are poor, would you guys be okay with the poor women just selling the aborted babies for whatever they can get? Say sort of an Ebay auction house where poor women could redress society's wrongs by parting out their, um, fetuses.

Lol. Human bodies and body parts are already sold and donated so I'm not sure what you are waiting for.

I also see no reason why people can't sell body parts as well as aborted fetuses for money so long as the industry is safe and heavily regulated. Capitalism for the win!
 

werepossum

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Lol. Human bodies and body parts are already sold and donated so I'm not sure what you are waiting for.

I also see no reason why people can't sell body parts as well as aborted fetuses for money so long as the industry is safe and heavily regulated. Capitalism for the win!
Thank you for being honest enough to admit it.
 

sandorski

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If women were getting Pregnant with the sole purpose being to harvest the Organs/Brains/whatever of the Fetus, I would have a big problem with it. That is not what happens though.
 

VRAMdemon

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The issue for me, yes, is abortion in general. A secondary issue for me is the extent to which the left really does believe that the target here isn't a human being. I have labored under the misapprehension that if abortion proponents actually saw or heard the reality of it (namely a fully-developed child having its brain extracted), they'd snap out of this. But I confess I underestimated the zeal with which you guys defend the act, and that shakes me.

That children are gleefully used for their body parts and organs, then tossed into the trash, shakes me.

Lol...It "shakes you". Chidren are "gleefully" used?!.You need to stay away from the medical field and stop obsessing about the people who perform medical procedures that include removal of body parts and organs. Do you have problems shaking when thinking about autopsies or morticians and the wickidness of the people who perform them? They may do the same procedure to former "human life". In research of test euthanized non-human primates, the first order of necropsy usually is to remove the brain, in tact, in which they use a saw to cut around the skull.

If you don't like abortion and thinking about medical procedures, well uhh..don't think about it. Simple solution. Its not for everybody. Especially if it "shakes you". Its not healthy.

Wasn't this debunked anyway that PP has been "selling" body parts for profit? I haven't followed this since I found out the some hack from another prank was behind the allegations.
 

CitizenKain

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The issue for me, yes, is abortion in general. A secondary issue for me is the extent to which the left really does believe that the target here isn't a human being. I have labored under the misapprehension that if abortion proponents actually saw or heard the reality of it (namely a fully-developed child having its brain extracted), they'd snap out of this. But I confess I underestimated the zeal with which you guys defend the act, and that shakes me.

That children are gleefully used for their body parts and organs, then tossed into the trash, shakes me.

This goes back to a previous point I made, nothing about abortion procedure will ever sound palpable to you because you oppose the act entirely.
Medical acts sound gross and uncomfortable to people who aren't familiar with them, and medical professionals have to be detached when discussing the procedure. Not only it is a sign of professionalism, its simply how you deal with your job.

But then you lose any hope of a rational conversation with the gleeful remark, because you think someone wakes up in the morning and goes "By Marduk himself, I can't wait to feast on a baby, and harvest its energy for my dark master."
Instead, its people going "I know this will make a difference, someone has made a difficult choice, but this could go to help millions."

Then they worry about some pro-life nutjob murdering them on the street. Or having their workplace be bombed.
 

piasabird

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There is no reason to have planned parenthood be funded by the government. Everyone by law is require to have insurance through Obama care. Cant fix stupid.
 

Sonikku

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There is no reason to have planned parenthood be funded by the government. Everyone by law is require to have insurance through Obama care. Cant fix stupid.

Yep. I propose a bill to settle this issue once and for all; No federal money can be spent on abortions. Not one dime. :colbert:
 

ivwshane

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There is no reason to have planned parenthood be funded by the government. Everyone by law is require to have insurance through Obama care. Cant fix stupid.


No you certainly can't fix stupid! But you can laugh at it! Lol!