So apparently Rick Perry is all huffy puffy about this cartoon in the Sacramento Bee.

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MarkLuvsCS

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I must also wonder about the 'tastes', if not the intelligence, of those home owners living next to the plant. Who in the heck wants a home right next to an industrial plant?

Fern

obviously ignorant texans that were too stupid or too poor to live elsewhere. Oh well I guess that's survival of the fittest at work.
 

blankslate

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WGaF? Rick Perry will forget about it within a week if he's still on pain meds for his back.

As for people complaining about bad taste? Sorry but the owners of the plant were in worse taste for storing fertilizer in an unsafe manner. Put the blame where it belongs.
 

Nebor

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Yes, those evil collectivist, statist, commie firemen leading peoples grandmas out of the blaze.

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I feel like you think you just made some very powerful, poignant statement... But it was essentially a non sequitur. It had nothing to do with what I, or anyone else in the thread, was talking about (safety regulators.)
 

blankslate

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I feel like you think you just made some very powerful, poignant statement... But it was essentially a non sequitur. It had nothing to do with what I, or anyone else in the thread, was talking about (safety regulators.)

The irresponsibility of the safety regulators or the very lack of the ability to do the job because of a lack of funding, training or staffing for the safety regulators...

Whichever it happens to be. It allowed the owners to store unsafe amounts of fertilizer in one place.

That's more offensive than the cartoon. The cartoonist didn't create the event just commented on it. Call it a dumb point if you want, whatever floats your boat. /shrug
 

HomerJS

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Anyone find it odd GW Bush did not attend memorial services for West Texas victims?

It's his home state. Obama and Gov Perry both attended.
 

dainthomas

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Anyone find it odd GW Bush did not attend memorial services for West Texas victims?

It's his home state. Obama and Gov Perry both attended.

Why is it that the owners of the collapsed building in Bangladesh and the companies that made their employees work there are all in jail, but not the owner of this plant?
 

Londo_Jowo

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Why is it that the owners of the collapsed building in Bangladesh and the companies that made their employees work there are all in jail, but not the owner of this plant?

Who to say he won't be arrested after the investigation is complete, though at this point the investigators do not know how the fire started.

If ammonium nitrate is stored properly it's safe as it's not flammable.

It appears that the anhydrous ammonia which is flammable was not the source of the fire as the storage tanks didn't explode.
 

Nebor

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Anyone find it odd GW Bush did not attend memorial services for West Texas victims?

It's his home state. Obama and Gov Perry both attended.

Not really. He still makes regular (monthly) trips to BAMC in San Antonio and can be seen in DFW Airport shaking hands with returning troops. He couldn't have done anything or made any promises or anything in West.
 

sixone

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Anyone find it odd GW Bush did not attend memorial services for West Texas victims?

It's his home state. Obama and Gov Perry both attended.

Yeah, but GWB would get more applause in TX than Obama would. Can't have that.
 

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As for people complaining about bad taste? Sorry but the owners of the plant were in worse taste for storing fertilizer in an unsafe manner. Put the blame where it belongs.

Not complaining, I'm pointing out the lack of common sense (and appreciation for aesthetics).

I don't know where you live, but around here when some business proposes locating a plant anywhere near a neighborhood the safety concern is always raised.

And there is a clear lack of common sense. Like I tell my kid, when it come to death and severe injury who gives a fvck if it wasn't your fault that you were killed. Dead is dead and fault changes nothing for you. So, you don't cross the street just because the light is in your favor. You look to make sure some dumbazz isn't running the light before you cross. Getting run over isn't made any better by 'not being at fault'. You don't rely on other people to do the right thing when it comes to your safety, you rely on yourself because you're the one who will suffer the consequences.

These people in TX relied on somebody else to do things right and paid the price for it.

Fern
 
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blankslate

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Not complaining, I'm pointing out the lack of common sense (and appreciation for aesthetics).

I don't where you live, but around here when some business proposes locating a plant anywhere near a neighborhood the safety concern is always raised.

And there is a clear lack of common sense. Like I tell my kid, when it come to death and severe injury who gives a fvck if it wasn't your fault that you were killed. Dead is dead and fault changes nothing for you. So, you don't cross the street just because the light is in your favor. You look to make sure some dumbazz isn't running the light before you cross. Getting run over isn't made any better by 'not being at fault'. You don't rely on other people to do the right thing when it comes to your safety, you rely on yourself because you're the one who will suffer the consequences.

These people in TX relied on somebody else to do things right and paid the price for it.

Fern

For some reason even though you replied to me I don't think you really have an issue with what I said. Or in others from your reply I don't see how anything we've posted in this particular thread puts us as having different opinions.

As for relying on yourself for safety, that's a given but you can't be an expert on everything around you or at place you may travel through going about your business...

In that case some safety organization either on the state level or federal level should be around because as has been shown the owners won't always police themselves