So apparently everyone at DICE are homophobics...

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AyashiKaibutsu

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Equating homoerotic love with getting shot with bullets equals homophobia is kind of sound logic. I still don't agree with the article though; for the vast majority of people, getting your shit pushed in is less the pleasant.
 

Bateluer

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Fail. Gay slurs and homophobic content not found. Move along.

But, by all means, continue bashing the game for the shit pile it is.
 

Childs

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"getting your shit pushed in" is a lot older than BF3

First time I heard this was in Training Day.

Anyways, I would think this would be an unpleasant experience, male or female, straight or gay, if you did not want your sh1t pushed in by the person pushing it in. Its not like the soldiers in the game are saying..."Get that f@g!", although for some reason I'm thinking there might be a "get that c0cksucker!" line. Something with c0cksucker in it. But a c0cksucker is not necessarily gay. Respectable Republican preachers and politicians do it all the time, and they are straight.
 

videogames101

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Lol whoever wrote this article has never listened to actual male conversation, especially during online gaming. That shit is pretty standard. Imagine if this fool of an author played a few matches of HoN, I think he'd cry.
 

KentState

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Why do people jump to homophobic right away? If anything, the term is more about getting forcefully sodomised which can happen to a straight male or female and is rather unpleasant. The saying is mostly equivalent to, "I'm being raped."
 

motsm

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Not homophobic, not even close. Everything is about context, words like fa**ot and gay have multiple meanings these days, just like the word ni**er. If you aren't using it with intent to hurt someone, then anyone who gets offended needs to suck it up and move along. Societies speech police these days is utterly pathetic, and so are the people that get offended by this stuff.

The saying is mostly equivalent to, "I'm being raped."
Don't you realize that's offensive to rape victims?
 

Throckmorton

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Considering getting their shit pushed in has caused 20% of gay men in America to be HIV+, I'd say it is a negative thing and should be used in that context. There's nothing inherently gay about anal sex, it's just what they happen to do much more than straight people.
 

Craig234

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Lol whoever wrote this article has never listened to actual male conversation, especially during online gaming. That shit is pretty standard. Imagine if this fool of an author played a few matches of HoN, I think he'd cry.

Oh, so if bigotry is common, it's not bigotry. So if a bunch of KKK bigots say racial epithets, then they're not racial epithets because they're said a lot.
 

Craig234

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Not homophobic, not even close. Everything is about context, words like fa**ot and gay have multiple meanings these days, just like the word ni**er. If you aren't using it with intent to hurt someone, then anyone who gets offended needs to suck it up and move along. Societies speech police these days is utterly pathetic, and so are the people that get offended by this stuff.

Don't you realize that's offensive to rape victims?

It doesn't require intent. If it's being said and it's hurtful, it's an issue anyway.

Let's take the word 'C*nt*'. Is it used 'in a variety of ways'? Yes, sometimes it's deragatory for a woman; sometimes it's deragatory about a guy.

Is it used by some people? Yes, it is.

Now, let's take two people. The first at Thanksgiving dinner knows the word will offend his mother and sister, and he yells it a lot anyway.

The second is an oblivious idiot and doesn't think about how it will offend his mother and sister, and yells it a lot across the dinner table, offending them anyway.

Now, is the second guy 'ok', should he be defended to continue doing so, simply because he doesn't intend to offend like the first guy?

Once it's pointed out to him he's offending them, should he call them names - 'C*nts' comes to mind - as 'over sensitive', or should he get a clue he's the one out of line?

People's obliviousness to the fact that racial and other epithets have base meanings that are offensive to groups - even if they've been 'extended' to other meanings - is something to educate them about and criticize them for and tell them to stop doing, not excuses for them to do it.

There are all kinds of words that mean the non-offensive things. Continuing to use the epithets continues to spread bigotry and be offensive.

The fact that a majority of a crowd might be male or white or straight is no reason for their obliviousness that insults to females, non-white, gays are ok to use, offending them.

What we have here may be a lack of parenting.
 

videogames101

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Oh, so if bigotry is common, it's not bigotry. So if a bunch of KKK bigots say racial epithets, then they're not racial epithets because they're said a lot.

No, I'm saying that words only have the meanings we give to them. Sorry if it went over your head =]
 

Craig234

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Why do people jump to homophobic right away? If anything, the term is more about getting forcefully sodomised which can happen to a straight male or female and is rather unpleasant. The saying is mostly equivalent to, "I'm being raped."

It's funny how idiotic come people become over these things, pretending to be clueless. Like defending the N word playing games with the country 'Negir' or the word 'niggardly'.

This saying is clearly related to the anti-gay bigotry similar things have come from. Further, it's almost always used about happening to a guy - and who does this to a guy? A female? Using what, a dildo or broom handle? No, the clear implication is it being done by another guy. Now yes, it IS a a lot about the repulsion at the notion - but that's a repulsion that's different for the straight guys and gays, just as the insult 'C***sucker' is a huge insult to another guy while something the guy begs his girlfriend to be.

So, it's disrespectful to the gays - treating them as vile and disgusting. You find few guys throwing around 'C***sucker* as an insult in front of their girlfriend lest they offend her so she won't - and it's also disrecpectful to use anal sex as an insult, because while it's repulsive to most guys, it's also insulting it for gays for whom it's not.

Just a little consideration. That's apart from the issue of it being a crude, asinine way to talk that makes the speaker look like a street brat raised by meth heads.

There are a lot of people on the street who use the N word on average twice per sentence - does that mean our games and tv shows should be filled with it? No.
 

Obsoleet

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I refuse to play realistic/military shooters. Why? They're propaganda funded by the Pentagon to brainwash kids into accepting the idea dying for the cause of killing someone from somewhere else, like China.

Not shocking that a partially Pentagon funded game (which has to portray the US military in a positive light)- is homophobic.

The games a steaming pile of Origin anyway. I'll wait for the next sci-fi or fantasy shooter that portrays a little more of a united mankind, at very least not China vs USA or some bullshit like that.
 

Obsoleet

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There are a lot of people on the street who use the N word on average twice per sentence - does that mean our games and tv shows should be filled with it? No.

There are?? Tell them to come visit me in Chicago.

I'd love to have a group of Xbox Live kiddies visit me in the city and see how big of men they are in real life talking that kind of crap.

It doesn't require intent. If it's being said and it's hurtful, it's an issue anyway.

It's been long established in the corporate world that intent is meaningless. It's how it's perceived. Best to keep the mouth shut unless you're hiding behind a microphone or a computer. I'm the only person I've known to have balls big enough to actually do such things in person, but I'm more thoughtful than that to actually use that sort of idiotic language.

so people are oversensitive about everything. What else is new.

Not sure if it's EVERYTHING. More like a group of people who have been discriminated against daily both legally and socially, as well as tortured and occasionally murdered for no reason other than they prefer the same sex. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard
I don't see the problem for those who 'claim' to be straight, it means more women for them. Though I don't think most who hate gays actually hate gays, they envy their ability to be honest with being homosexual.
 
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Arkaign

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Mountain molehill.

Seriously. 2012 has infinitely larger problems than some largely irrelevant (and mostly accurate, given what I've seen in documentaries) dialogue in a video game.
 

Childs

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Further, it's almost always used about happening to a guy - and who does this to a guy? A female? Using what, a dildo or broom handle? No, the clear implication is it being done by another guy.

Strap on! You should see some of the stuff I have....researched for this thread.
 

darkewaffle

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I think all uses of the word "article" in reference to OP should be in quotes after reading it.

Also this "article" is gay.
 
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