So apparently, a router can still affect a PC that isn't hooked up to it

Queasy

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My DSL connection went down yesterday and I called Bellsouth tech support to get it fixed. I had already unhooked my PC from the router and hooked it straight into the IFITL line prior to calling while trying to troubleshoot on my own. During the course of my conversation with the Bellsouth tech I mentioned that I usually have my computer hooked up through a router but have it plugged in straight to the IFITL line now.

BS tech: "You need to unplug your router."
Me: "It is unplugged. The ethernet cable is going straight from the jack to my PC. It isn't hooked up to the router."
BS tech: "Is the power still on to your router?"
Me: "Yes."
BS tech: "You need to unhook the power cord from the router."
Me: "Why?"
BS tech: "If the router is still on, your computer may think it is still hooked up to it and that could be causing your problem."
Me: "HUH? The computer isn't even connected to the router. How is it supposed to "think" that?"
BS tech: "Because the router is still on."
Me getting incredulous: "I have an ethernet cable going straight from the wall to my PC. Nothing is plugged in to the router right now except for the power cord. I fail to see how that could be causing my problem."
BS tech: "Sir...."
Me cutting off tech: "Ok, fine there. The router power cord is unplugged."
BS tech: "Can you connect now?"
Me: "No."
BS tech: <pause> "Ok."

Eventually, I had to tell her to just give me an ip address to use instead of having my network connection obtain one automatically. That fixed my problem temporarily.

My connection has been going up and down so much the past few weeks I'm actually tempted to use Comcast now. But I'm still pissed at them too from billing errors five years ago.
 

KingPhil

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I had Frontier MAX Speed DSL for about a week. It SUCKED! I had them cancel my account and re-signed up with Road Runner. Now with RR's faster download speeds, it BLOWS AWAY DSL anyways.

Gotta love stupid tech support people! LADY, I do this for a living, and you think I didn't allready narrow the problem down??? DUH!

Of course, that is their job, although your example was quite ridiculous :) haha Good luck :)
 

stag3

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im impressed you can understand the bellsouth tech, i have a hard time understanding indian people's english
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: stag3
im impressed you can understand the bellsouth tech, i have a hard time understanding indian people's english

This girl's accent wasn't bad. Probably the best english-speaking Indian I've heard doing tech support.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: mzkhadir
was she talking about the pc holding on to the ip address and not releasing it.

Might have been but we had already done an ip release and renew and that didn't solve the problem. She kept insisting that router being turned was the problem despite the fact that nothing was plugged into it.
 

Wag

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It's probably more that they were taught to go by a script and don't really know anything more than that.

Ask to talk to a mgr, I usually do.
 

Amused

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Some thoughts:

Maybe they have a list they MUST go through. If they don't make you do all the steps (no matter how inane), they are reprimanded?

EDIT: It appears Wag and I think alike...

Anyone know a good form of suicide?

;)
 

Queasy

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I don't know. I'm wondering if my Netgear router may be flaking out and causing the problem as well. I'm gonna stop and get a Linksys router today to see if that solves the problem.
 

Amused

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Speaking of Indian tech support...

Insight uses Americans... Often times people in the same state. A very pleasant surprise for me.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't know. I'm wondering if my Netgear router may be flaking out and causing the problem as well. I'm gonna stop and get a Linksys router today to see if that solves the problem.

My D-Link DGS-1005D has been great.

OOPS! I mean my DI-774.

the 1005 is my gigabit switch. :eek:
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't know. I'm wondering if my Netgear router may be flaking out and causing the problem as well. I'm gonna stop and get a Linksys router today to see if that solves the problem.

My D-Link DGS-1005D has been great.

My D-Link DSL G604T has been too :)
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't know. I'm wondering if my Netgear router may be flaking out and causing the problem as well. I'm gonna stop and get a Linksys router today to see if that solves the problem.

My D-Link DGS-1005D has been great.

My D-Link DSL G604T has been too :)

Well, there's a great deal on a WRT54G for $17.99 after PM and rebate so that's why I'm going that direction.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't know. I'm wondering if my Netgear router may be flaking out and causing the problem as well. I'm gonna stop and get a Linksys router today to see if that solves the problem.

My D-Link DGS-1005D has been great.

My D-Link DSL G604T has been too :)

Well, there's a great deal on a WRT54G for $17.99 after PM and rebate so that's why I'm going that direction.

OOPS! I mean my DI-774.

the 1005 is my gigabit switch. :eek:

I'm an idiot.

Good deal on the Linsys, though.
 

PingSpike

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You're doing this wrong. When they tell you to do something retarded like "unplug your toaster and then try it." you don't go "WTF does the toaster have to do with my internet?!" You just say "ok, just a second." clunk the phone around a little bit then go "It still doesn't work, now what?"

Why fight with them when you don't have too?
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Queasy
I don't know. I'm wondering if my Netgear router may be flaking out and causing the problem as well. I'm gonna stop and get a Linksys router today to see if that solves the problem.

My D-Link DGS-1005D has been great.

My D-Link DSL G604T has been too :)

Well, there's a great deal on a WRT54G for $17.99 after PM and rebate so that's why I'm going that direction.

OOPS! I mean my DI-774.

the 1005 is my gigabit switch. :eek:

I'm an idiot.

Good deal on the Linsys, though.

QFT.















;)
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
You're doing this wrong. When they tell you to do something retarded like "unplug your toaster and then try it." you don't go "WTF does the toaster have to do with my internet?!" You just say "ok, just a second." clunk the phone around a little bit then go "It still doesn't work, now what?"

Why fight with them when you don't have too?

:thumbsup: