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Assimilator1

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Just reading AnandTech's review of them now (so no idea when they're actually available atm). Performance looks good!

So I know some of you guys are on the cutting edge :) , anyone ordered one? Or got one yet? lol
 

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They are sold out - are least the 5950 is. I haven’t tried to get any of the lower models just yet, but may cave if i find a 5900 available.
 

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Ordered ? Yes. When will I see it ? who knows. Christmas ??? 5950x
 

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Another paper launch. Maybe next summer us common folk will be able to go to a store and purchase a new gen CPU or GPU. Till then.....
 

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Another paper launch. Maybe next summer us common folk will be able to go to a store and purchase a new gen CPU or GPU. Till then.....
Not sure yet... 2 different companies, both with quantity problems on new hardware. Could be covid related ??? I will reserve judgement for at least 30 days, it happened last year with my 3900x's and there was no covid, but I got them in 30 days.
 

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I am still reading all the reviews, but the higher core count 5950x seems a bit memory bandwidth starved more than the 3950x on several multi-core loads. Performance per core of the 5950x seems to diminish more than the 12 core 5900x over the 8 core?

Maybe this will impact DC threads that can't spend most of their time in the L3?
 

Endgame124

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Another paper launch. Maybe next summer us common folk will be able to go to a store and purchase a new gen CPU or GPU. Till then.....
It seems to depend on the model. I could have driven to microcenter for a 5600x or 5800x, but availability seems to be much lower on the 5950x.
The very small size of the die means that they can make a lot of them quickly, so I remain hopeful for a Black Friday build
 

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I am still reading all the reviews, but the higher core count 5950x seems a bit memory bandwidth starved more than the 3950x on several multi-core loads. Performance per core of the 5950x seems to diminish more than the 12 core 5900x over the 8 core?

Maybe this will impact DC threads that can't spend most of their time in the L3?
Tasks that don't stay in L3 take a big performance hit. This tends only to happen when running lots of simultaneous tasks, but there are a few resource hogging apps out there. Many times the penalty can be mitigated my running the tasks in multi-threaded mode on projects that allow it.
 

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I had opportunities to buy, but I passed. Other than editing 4K60 videos I never feel like I need anything beyond my 3950X.

I'm planning to buy X570 + 5950X around Xmas assuming availability gets better and I can get at least 5% discount via credit card or promo. Also in my experience the boost clocks and OC potential tend to be better a few months post-launch.

Thought I'm considering selling 3950X and using 3700X in the interim. We'll see.
 

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I was browsing Newegg, and they actually appeared to have the 5800X in stock. I was only interested in the 5900X, TBH, so I passed. Also, don't quite have the funds for it yet.
 

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I'll be sorely tempted when they are more available, but at the present it's hard to tell whether they actually represent the most compute power per dollar, given the price bumps and that Zen 2 is now selling at a discount.
 

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I got excited for a second - when you Google 5950x it goes to Best Buy shopping link.. for a 3950x. "No way it's in stock! It's letting me add to cart! Oh, it's because it's a 3950x :anguished: "
 
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I personally chose a 5900X for pre-order, as it will be my daily driver/Windows machine, and it has a 9% base-clock advantage over the 5950X. I am hoping the 9% boost will compensate for running Windows....plus it is my gaming machine (I really need the boost for Flight Sim 2020). Also, saving $330 up front allows my budget to consider a new gen GPU.
 
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I look forwards to some stats from your 5900X when you get it :)
Btw, shouldn't the last line of your sig say 5900X?;)
 

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How much ram for a 5950x? I had to move to 2GB per thread a while back for Rosetta on my 2700x, so I assume that is where I need to end up, but I’m curious if anyone has a different suggestion? It seems Ryzen 5k likes 2 sticks of ram with lots of memory bandwidth - so 4000mhz with tight timings would be ideal, but those kits pretty much stop at 16GB per stick.
 
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4000 MHz with tight timings... frankly, this sounds like something which would routinely miscalculate PrimeGrid work every so often.
 
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I agree that 2GB per thread is now 'standard' for DC, and will get you steady performance from all current projects (as long as you aren't running Rosetta alongside Amicable? ((8GB per task)) ). And also agree that more than 2 modules limits your RAM speeds. 3600MHz is not too bad of a compromise though.

edit: Seems 4000 is on the market though, but not sure it is worth 20% more money for only 11% more speed than 3600, which is actually in stock.
 
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Endgame124

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I agree that 2GB per thread is now 'standard' for DC, and will get you steady performance from all current projects (as long as you aren't running Rosetta alongside Amicable? ((8GB per task)) ). And also agree that more than 2 modules limits your RAM speeds. 3600MHz is not too bad of a compromise though.

edit: Seems 4000 is on the market though, but not sure it is worth 20% more money for only 11% more speed than 3600, which is actually in stock.
That kit was the exact one I was looking at. If I back down the speed to 3600, I imagine a 4 stick kit is probably ok too
 

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Better check your MB manual....my X570 limits not only the speed but the capacity also, going to 4 sticks (at certain speeds). 128GB support is sort of a marketing gimmick, IMO.
 

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Whenever I built a computer of which CPU + mainboard had ECC support, I put ECC RAM into it. When I built my current main home PC, AMD did not have attractive options, and so I went with a Xeon E3, instead of a Core-i counterpart, in order to have ECC support.
 

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Whenever I built a computer of which CPU + mainboard had ECC support, I put ECC RAM into it. When I built my current main home PC, AMD did not have attractive options, and so I went with a Xeon E3, instead of a Core-i counterpart, in order to have ECC support.
I haven’t ever built a home pc with ECC - I’ve read a fair amount of skepticism regarding the need for ECC. Of course that doesn’t stop us from using it for servers, but I haven’t ever seen a metric that states the frequency of ECC correcting a bit.
 
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