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So after Ron Paul becomes President of the USA

schneiderguy

schneiderguy

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How will the media continue to ignore him? I bet they'll just give credit for all of his accomplishments to Congress. Or not even report on them.
 
Pigs will fly before Ron Paul wins a single primary, let alone the nomination.

<-- Thinking that it's time to resurrect his "Ron Paul lost! Get over it!" signature from 2008 🙂
 
The same way the media ignores all the current issues of actual importance today. It's circular. People only think the things the media covers are important, and the media justifies not covering anything else because its not mainstream. Hello 1984.
 
masteryoda34 said:
The same way the media ignores all the current issues of actual importance today. It's circular. People only think the things the media covers are important, and the media justifies not covering anything else because its not mainstream. Hello 1984.
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I honestly don't see how you (and Ron Paul supporters in general) are any different. You define "important" as "what I personally care about", which makes you basically the same as everyone else on the planet.

The media does sometimes incorrectly define what's important with things like missing white girl syndrome. But in the case of Ron Paul, I don't think they're that far off base. His supporters love him, and an alarming number of people like the idea of someone "different". But anyone who pays attention at all to the public opinion in this country could tell you that Ron Paul is never, ever going to be President. He's got foreign policy ideas that neo-conservatives (and many liberals) think are naive. He's got social views that somehow manage to piss off both liberals AND social conservatives. And his economic views are WAY too far into the Libertarian (yes, the party, not the ideology) zone to make most people feel comfortable. Downsizing government is something that appeals to a lot of people. The gold standard is a bit much.

As with most things, it's usually worth considering that maybe you're wrong. Maybe it's not some massive media conspiracy to ignore Ron Paul. Maybe he's just an interesting, but extreme, guy who's not ever going to sit in the big chair.
 
schneiderguy said:
How will the media continue to ignore him? I bet they'll just give credit for all of his accomplishments to Congress. Or not even report on them.
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If his congressional record, and his general approach to government, is any indication...he's not going to have any accomplishments to credit to him or anyone else.

There's something admirable about the stubborn guy who keeps plugging away despite pretty much everyone being against him. But that guy is never, ever, going to get anything done in a democratic government. We're not voting for dictator here, President Ron Paul would at the very least have to work with both Republicans and Democrats to get stuff done. And you know what, there is absolutely not a shred of evidence that he's capable of doing that.
 
Do people really think he will win, I mean does anybody believe it? For the record I respect him more than the rest of the guys running now; I think he's more honest and wastes less time with rubbish and rhetoric, but he will never be POTUS.
 
Doppel said:
Do people really think he will win, I mean does anybody believe it? For the record I respect him more than the rest of the guys running now; I think he's more honest and wastes less time with rubbish and rhetoric, but he will never be POTUS.
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What do you care, you will vote for whoever is running against Obama.
 
I'm glad to see that people are still deluding themselves into thinking that Ron Paul keeps losing due to a media conspiracy.

Hint: Ron Paul keeps losing because his policies are horrible. He will continue to lose, and lose, and lose. The sooner you come to grips with that, the sooner you can start to examine why so many people find his policies to be horrible.
 
eskimospy said:
I'm glad to see that people are still deluding themselves into thinking that Ron Paul keeps losing due to a media conspiracy.

Hint: Ron Paul keeps losing because his policies are horrible. He will continue to lose, and lose, and lose. The sooner you come to grips with that, the sooner you can start to examine why so many people find his policies to be horrible.
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This ^

Ron Paul will continue to finish 3rd or worse from here on out. He should do the right thing and drop out.
 
I think someone with some of Ron Pauls ideas will win in the future. It will take another 10-15 years of permawars, perpetual losing war on drugs to drain the shit out of our coffers before people wake up.
 
Hugo Drax said:
I think someone with some of Ron Pauls ideas will win in the future. It will take another 10-15 years of permawars, perpetual losing war on drugs to drain the shit out of our coffers before people wake up.
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Some of is a very important phrase.

Unfortunately, odds are not for it if we don't fix the money issue.
 
Hugo Drax said:
I think someone with some of Ron Pauls ideas will win in the future. It will take another 10-15 years of permawars, perpetual losing war on drugs to drain the shit out of our coffers before people wake up.
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Except things don't progress in a straight line in any one direction that long. Right now we're in a bad spot economically and there is a lot of anti-government sentiment, which is the very best chance someone like Ron Paul has. 10-15 years from now, we're likely to be in a completely different spot and it seems unlikely that somehow libertarian views will be MORE popular than they are today.

In the last 15 years we've been through at least two major boom/bust cycles, and peoples' preferences on government have changed several times. 10 years ago the big government GWB conservatives were really just ramping up. Since then we've had the Republican backlash, the Democratic backlash and the Republican backlash again. Do you REALLY think you can predict 10-15 years in advance, particularly with respect to someone who has a very long history of not winning nationally? Extrapolating long term political trends from a relatively short snapshot of history is pretty hard, IMO.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
This ^

Ron Paul will continue to finish 3rd or worse from here on out. He should do the right thing and drop out.
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I don't know about that. He's sure as hell not going to win, but someone like him really cares about getting his ideas heard. And for as annoying as I find him and his supporters sometimes, he's definitely getting his views out there this way.
 
eskimospy said:
I'm glad to see that people are still deluding themselves into thinking that Ron Paul keeps losing due to a media conspiracy.

Hint: Ron Paul keeps losing because his policies are horrible. He will continue to lose, and lose, and lose. The sooner you come to grips with that, the sooner you can start to examine why so many people find his policies to be horrible.
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The answers I have seen since 2008 is that anyone who does not support Mr Paul is too stupid to know what is good for them or are on the Federal government gravy train and would never vote to end their free ride.
 
Siddhartha said:
The answers I have seen since 2008 is that anyone who does not support Mr Paul is too stupid to know what is good for them or are on the Federal government gravy train and would never vote to end their free ride.
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I've heard that too, and the argument is not getting better with time. Calling people stupid and/or lazy has never really been a great way to get them to agree with a position, particularly when people do so in the most ridiculously pompous way possible. "Only I understand freedom, idiot." doesn't make for a very good bumper sticker 😉
 
People like winners and handouts. Paul is both old and telling them they can't have any. You should be able to conclude the rest from there, and never make such a stupid OP.
 
The country would have to first become totally devastated, totally turned upside down from either a terrorist nuclear attack, or some outbreak of illness where masses die, or a good old fashion major meteor strike taking out 50% of the land. Then we would rebuild starting from square one. In that scenario, possibly an entirely new vision of America could rise from ground up. A whole new blueprint unlike anything that previously existed.
In that case just maybe Paul and his beliefs would become reality.
But as it stands now, his way of thinking could never catch on to actually catch on.
Beyond that, he could only win the presidency today in a totally rigged election.
I really suspect 2012 will be Paul's last stand.
I look for him to retire, announcing retirement from politics, soon after the republicans finalize their 2012 candidate.
Paul could, but he won't, run as a third part candidate.
Yes... 2012 will be his last quest for the presidency, or any future political office.

PS.
Sorry bout that kids, but someone had to break it to yous.
 
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sportage said:
I really suspect 2012 will be Paul's last stand.
I look for him to retire, announcing retirement from politics, soon after the republicans finalize their 2012 candidate.
Paul could, but he won't, run as a third part candidate.
Yes... 2012 will be his last quest for the presidency, or any future political office.

PS.
Sorry bout that kids, but someone had to break it to yous.
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See post #11
 
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