And I'm starting over because theres been a lot of changes. Oh started some scrappers, started some tanks. Seemed to settle on a ice/ice blaster. Got to lvl 10ish (only takes a few hours) Lack of defenders (my mains are defenders from a year past). And there still there, so I go check out the toons on the servers (What was I thinking when I came up with there uniforms??) So Ok I'll start over with an empath. Any way i'm telling you ive started probally 10 toons in the last week and I have yet to group with 1 idiot. Groups of mobs can be huge in this game and we actually discuss stratgy before the pull. Whats so different? Why isnt this the same in all mmorpg's? Coh actually tries to be fun, challanging, brutal at times but fun. I think its the challange that keeps the morons out but theres a difference here. Anyway if youve played please post your thoughts. If you havent played (especialy because of no PVP) you may want to look it up as city of villians is due shortly. Theres less depth here than EQ , WOW EQ2 AO ect. But its more fun than any of them. And its eluceive, I cannot put my finger on why.