So a GTX580 costs 300$...

EliteRetard

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If they can take the higest end best chips they have and sell them for 350$ each in the GTX590 and still make money.

Interesting.
 

RobertPters77

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Nvidia probably makes very little on the 590. They make shitloads on the 580 and less on the 570(Same chip 150$ difference). I think enabling full 1024 cuda cores was more likely a marketing gimmick. And nvidia doesn't have a gpu in between the gf110 and gf114. If nvidia put 2 560 gpus on a single board, and clocked them to 1ghz it would match the 6990.
The gigabyte super OC 560 matches and/or beats the 570 and 6970 at stock.
 

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If they can take the higest end best chips they have and sell them for 350$ each in the GTX590 and still make money.

Interesting.

It actually doesn't cost twice as much to make a dual GPU card. There's more, a lot more, than BOP to consider when bringing a product to retail.

Nvidia probably makes very little on the 590. They make shitloads on the 580 and less on the 570(Same chip 150$ difference). I think enabling full 1024 cuda cores was more likely a marketing gimmick. And nvidia doesn't have a gpu in between the gf110 and gf114. If nvidia put 2 560 gpus on a single board, and clocked them to 1ghz it would match the 6990.
The gigabyte super OC 560 matches and/or beats the 570 and 6970 at stock.

They can't supply 560's that will run @ 1GHz. If you check, the 560SOC is now clocked @ 950MHz. So, you see the marketing gimmick wasn't the fully functioning chips on the 580, it's the 1GHz on the 560.
 

Soccerman06

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Its not like they are selling the 590 at cost, they are probably making quite a profit from it. Id wager 1/4 of that is profit, if not more. I dont know what a wafer costs these days, but Im sure someone here does and probably knows the yield of a 580 other versions of it (damaged).
 

notty22

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The gtx 590 really does not exist. There is empirical evidence that Nvidia would have to use 570's . Speaking of gimmicks, yellow tape and warranty void switches anyone ?
 

3DVagabond

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Its not like they are selling the 590 at cost, they are probably making quite a profit from it. Id wager 1/4 of that is profit, if not more. I dont know what a wafer costs these days, but Im sure someone here does and probably knows the yield of a 580 other versions of it (damaged).

Add to that they can actually use sub par chips, that are fully functioning but won't hit as high clocks in the 590, since it doesn't have to clock as fast. If you try to... boom!
 

greenhawk

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Add to that they can actually use sub par chips, that are fully functioning but won't hit as high clocks in the 590, since it doesn't have to clock as fast. If you try to... boom!

+1. Given the base specs of the GPUs in the GTX590, it would appear they are the rejected ones from the GTX580 (ie: the ones that would not go as fast).

Only a guess, but given the cost of the GTX590 and other nvidia cards, it would be more likly seeing as a GTX590 is about twice a GTX570 in price, but performs in the same ball park as SLI GTX570's.
 

EliteRetard

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Actually, another amazing feat is selling an underclocked GTX560 for ~900$ (485M).

I guess Im jealous...
 

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There are unlocked CPUs too, but overclocking voids warranty, athough I doubt they will burn with a little speed and voltage bump
 

Will Robinson

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Seeing NVDA has said that"hundreds will be available"(for all of America),
its a good bet they are just selling them at break even or a loss as a high end halo product...course it would help that halo a fair bit if it was actually faster than the competition but..oh well.:\
 

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Nvidia probably makes very little on the 590. They make shitloads on the 580 and less on the 570(Same chip 150$ difference). I think enabling full 1024 cuda cores was more likely a marketing gimmick. And nvidia doesn't have a gpu in between the gf110 and gf114. If nvidia put 2 560 gpus on a single board, and clocked them to 1ghz it would match the 6990.
The gigabyte super OC 560 matches and/or beats the 570 and 6970 at stock.

It's quite amazing that nVidia did pull-off a dual Fermi at all using full cores. Granted, there has been some episodes and something to pay attention to see if these episodes continue with newer drivers and in gamers' hands.

nVidia's partners like Galaxy has commented something about offering dual GTX-560's, too.