Snoped: Secret Service depletes funds to pay agents because of Trump's frequent travel, large family

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Good thing they are firing everyone over at the EPA. They can use that money to help protect his family while golfing

WASHINGTON — The Secret Service can no longer pay hundreds of agents it needs to carry out an expanded protective mission – in large part due to the sheer size of President Trump's family and efforts necessary to secure their multiple residences up and down the East Coast.

Secret Service Director Randolph "Tex'' Alles, in an interview with USA TODAY, said more than 1,000 agents have already hit the federally mandated caps for salary and overtime allowances that were meant to last the entire year.

The agency has faced a crushing workload since the height of the contentious election season, and it has not relented in the first seven months of the administration. Agents must protect Trump – who has traveled almost every weekend to his properties in Florida, New Jersey and Virginia – and his adult children whose business trips and vacations have taken them across the country and overseas.

"The president has a large family, and our responsibility is required in law,'' Alles said. "I can't change that. I have no flexibility.''

Alles said the service is grappling with an unprecedented number of White House protectees. Under Trump, 42 people have protection, a number that includes 18 members of his family. That's up from 31 during the Obama administration.

Overwork and constant travel have also been driving a recent exodus from the Secret Service ranks, yet without congressional intervention to provide additional funding, Alles will not even be able to pay agents for the work they have already done.

The compensation crunch is so serious that the director has begun discussions with key lawmakers to raise the combined salary and overtime cap for agents, from $160,000 per year to $187,000 for at least the duration of Trump's first term.


But even if such a proposal was approved, about 130 veteran agents would not be fully compensated for hundreds of hours already amassed, according to the agency.

"I don't see this changing in the near term,'' Alles said.

Both Republican and Democratic lawmakers expressed deep concern for the continuing stress on the agency, first thrust into turmoil five years ago with disclosures about sexual misconduct by agents in Colombia and subsequent White House security breaches.

A special investigative panel formed after a particularly egregious 2014 White House breach also found that that agents and uniform officers worked "an unsustainable number of hours,'' which also contributed to troubling attrition rates.

While about 800 agents and uniformed officers were hired during the past year as part of an ongoing recruiting blitz to bolster the ranks, attrition limited the agency's net staffing gain to 300, according to agency records. And last year, Congress had to approve a one-time fix to ensure that 1,400 agents would be compensated for thousands of hours of overtime earned above compensation limits. Last year's compensation shortfall was first disclosed by USA TODAY.

"It is clear that the Secret Service's demands will continue to be higher than ever throughout the Trump administration,'' said Jennifer Werner, a spokesperson for Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings.

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Cummings, the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee who was the first lawmaker to sound the alarm after last year's disclosure that hundreds of agents had maxed out on pay, recently spoke with Alles and pledged support for a more permanent fix, Werner said.

"We cannot expect the Secret Service to be able to recruit and keep the best of the best if they are not being paid for these increases (in overtime hours)."

South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy, the Republican chairman of the House oversight panel, is "working with other committees of jurisdiction to explore ways in which we can best support'' the Secret Service, his spokesperson Amanda Gonzalez said.

Talks also are underway in the Senate, where the Secret Service has briefed members of the Homeland Security Committee, which directly oversees the the agency's operations.

"Ensuring the men and women who put their lives on the line protecting the president, his family and others every day are getting paid fairly for their work is a priority,'' said Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, the panel's top Democrat. "I'm committed to working with my colleagues on both sides to get this done.''

Without some legislative relief, though, at least 1,100 agents – for now – would not be eligible for overtime even as one of the agency's largest protective assignments looms next month. Nearly 150 foreign heads of state are expected to converge on New York City for the United Nations General Assembly.

Because of the sheer number of high-level dignitaries, the United Nations gathering is traditionally designated by the U.S., as a "National Special Security Event" and requires a massive deployment of security resources managed by the Secret Service.

That will be even trickier this year. "Normally, we are not this tapped out,'' said Alles, whom Trump appointed to his post in April.

The agents who have reached their compensation limits this year represent about a third of the Secret Service workforce, which was pressed last year to secure both national political conventions in the midst of a rollicking campaign cycle. The campaign featured regular clashes involving protesters at Trump rallies across the country, prompting the Secret Service at one point to erect bike racks as buffers around stages to thwart potential rushes from people in the crowd.

Officials had hoped that the agency's workload would normalize after the inauguration, but the president's frequent weekend trips, his family's business travel and the higher number of protectees has made that impossible.
Since his inauguration, Trump has taken seven trips to his estate in Mar-a-Lago, Fla., traveled to his Bedminster, N.J., golf club five times and returned to Trump Tower in Manhattan once.

Trump's frequent visits to his "winter White House" and "summer White House" are especially challenging for the agency, which must maintain a regular security infrastructure at each – while still allowing access to paying members and guests.

Always costly in manpower and equipment, the president's jaunts to Mar-a-Lago are estimated to cost at least $3 million each, based on a General Accounting Office estimate for similar travel by former President Obama. The Secret Service has spent some $60,000 on golf cart rentals alone this year to protect Trump at both Mar-a-Lago and Bedminster.

The president, First Lady Melania Trump and the couple's youngest son Barron – who maintained a separate detail in Trump Tower until June – aren't the only ones on the move with full-time security details in tow.

Trump's other sons, Trump Organization executives Donald Jr. and Eric, based in New York, also are covered by security details, including when they travel frequently to promote Trump-branded properties in other countries.

A few examples: Earlier this year, Eric Trump's business travel to Uruguay cost the Secret Service nearly $100,000 just for hotel rooms. Other trips included the United Kingdom and the Dominican Republic. In February, both sons and their security details traveled to Vancouver, British Columbia, for the opening of new Trump hotel there, and to Dubai to officially open a Trump International Golf Club.

In March, security details accompanied part of the family, including Ivanka Trump and husband Jared Kushner on a skiing vacation in Aspen, Colo. Even Tiffany Trump, the president's younger daughter, took vacations with her boyfriend to international locales such as Germany and Hungary, which also require Secret Service protection.

While Alles has characterized the security challenges posed by the Trump administration as a new "reality" of the agency's mission, the former Marine Corps major general said he has discussed the agency's staffing limitations with the White House so that security operations are not compromised by a unusually busy travel schedule.

"They understand,'' Alles said. "They accommodate to the degree they can and to the degree that it can be controlled. They have been supportive the whole time.''

Over time, Alles expects the Secret Service's continued hiring campaign will gradually relieve the pressure. From its current force of 6,800 agents and uniform officers, the goal is to reach 7,600 by 2019 and 9,500 by 2025.

"We're making progress,'' he said.

For now, Alles is focused simply on ensuring that his current agents will be paid for the work they have already done.

"We have them working all night long; we're sending them on the road all of the time,'' Alles said. "There are no quick fixes, but over the long term, I've got to give them a better balance (of work and private life) here."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...rumps-frequent-travel-large-family/529075001/

Update: Snopes - http://www.snopes.com/secret-service-broke-trump/
 
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I question the wisdom of going on a hiring spree past 2020, though. I mean, even if you assume Trump hasn't torpedoed his chances at reelection, you don't want to assume that demands will keep going up. Maybe if it means more people watching social networks.
 

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What kind of disgusting, terrible human being would voluntarily risk their life to protect Trump? You wold have to pay them exorbitant amounts or you would have to find nazis and white supremacists who would work for less and obviously would love Trump, I guess?

The solution as I see it, is that the secret service should go on recruiting drive in the deep south to find people that truly want to die for Trump and who are also used to not being payed much. Your average trailer trash should suffice. It's not like the secret service is full of the "best and brightest". The only more pathetic agency in terms of conduct and qualifications is the DEA.
 

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What kind of disgusting, terrible human being would voluntarily risk their life to protect Trump? You wold have to pay them exorbitant amounts or you would have to find nazis and white supremacists who would work for less and obviously would love Trump, I guess?

The solution as I see it, is that the secret service should go on recruiting drive in the deep south to find people that truly want to die for Trump and who are also used to not being payed much. Your average trailer trash should suffice. It's not like the secret service is full of the "best and brightest". The only more pathetic agency in terms of conduct and qualifications is the DEA.

Pure divisive bullshit. The Secret Service protects the institution of the Presidency & any person who serves in that capacity. Don't make Trump any more special than he already is.
 

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You mean... Trump is a gluttonous pig oblivious to the consequences of his actions on others? That the Secret Service guys might as well be furniture & the Treasury his private slush fund?

Who didn't figure that out before the election?
 
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Given the excellent Presidenting he's done so far who among us could mind?
 

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What kind of disgusting, terrible human being would voluntarily risk their life to protect Trump? You wold have to pay them exorbitant amounts or you would have to find nazis and white supremacists who would work for less and obviously would love Trump, I guess?

The solution as I see it, is that the secret service should go on recruiting drive in the deep south to find people that truly want to die for Trump and who are also used to not being payed much. Your average trailer trash should suffice. It's not like the secret service is full of the "best and brightest". The only more pathetic agency in terms of conduct and qualifications is the DEA.

That was classy.
 
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Trump will succeed in bankrupting this country, just like every business he has ever owned. And he will profit from it. So much winning!
 

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THE SWAMP ACT

115th CONGRESS
1st Session



H. R. 2414

To limit the amount of expenditure on Presidential travel, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

May 11, 2017

Mr. Ted Lieu of California (for himself and Mr. Nadler) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and in addition to the Committee on the Judiciary, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned


A BILL

To limit the amount of expenditure on Presidential travel, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Short title.


This Act may be cited as the “Stop Waste And Misuse by the President Act of 2017” or as the “SWAMP Act of 2017”.


SEC. 2. Findings.


The Congress finds as follows:


(1) Presidential travel to commercial entities owned in whole or in part by the President or First Family results in the American taxpayer effectively subsidizing the President’s businesses.


(2) Given current expenditures, President Trump is on track to spend more during his first year of office than all eight years of the Obama administration combined.


(3) It is unacceptable for the President to maintain an interest in traveling to properties in which he has a direct financial interest, as the U.S. Government is responsible for renting space for personnel in said private commercial entities.


(4) Every time the President travels to Mar-a-Lago, he necessarily promotes his private business interests via free press at the Government’s expense.


(5) The State Department’s recent promotion of Mar-a-Lago on its official website raises serious ethics concerns.


(6) As of April 14, 2017, President Trump has cost the U.S. taxpayer unprecedented amounts of money, including the following estimated costs:

(A) For trips to Mar-a-Lago:


(i) Total cost for security in Palm Beach: $3,700,000 (each trip).



(ii) Roundtrip flights from Joint Base Andrews, Maryland, to West Palm, Florida: $700,000.


(iii) Overtime for local law enforcement during Trump’s trips: $60,000/day.


(iv) Total golf cart rentals ordered by the Secret Service “for POTUS visit”: $35,185.


(v) Estimated loss of business due to airport closure: $30,000/weekend.


(B) For Trump Tower:

(i) Request for additional Secret Service funding to secure Trump Towers: $60,000,000.



(ii) New York Police Department security costs: $127,000–$146,000/day.


(iii) “Elevator services” ordered by the Secret Service: $64,000.


(iv) Air Force One flights to New York City: $180,000/hour.


(7) The proposed 2017 Federal spending bill includes reimbursements for millions of dollars spent by Florida and New York to protect the President and First Family, and facilitate their travel. While localities should be reimbursed, the taxpayer should not be responsible for said reimbursement.


SEC. 3. Reimbursal for costs of protection.


In the case of a person whom the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect under paragraph (1) or (2) of section 3056(a) of title 18, United States Code, if that person, while traveling for official business or for personal purposes, stays in a hotel or other establishment providing daily-rate accommodation in which that person has an ownership or financial interest, that person shall reimburse to the Treasury—


(1) any amount expended by the United States Secret Service for the provision of such protection; and


(2) any amount expended for other costs incurred by the Government pertaining to that stay.
 

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Whining about a few million USD when the army spends trillions on military contracts? Now don't get me wrong, Trump is a real asshole for being so inconsiderate of the budgetary limits but nonetheless this just seems like pointless drivel to me.
 
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Whining about a few million USD when the army spends trillions on military contracts? Now don't get me wrong, Trump is a real asshole for being so inconsiderate of the budgetary limits but nonetheless this just seems like pointless drivel to me.
ok, point noted, however, drumpf repeatedly chided Obama for taking vacations costing the taxpayers hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars. You said in a previous thread that hypocrites were worse, so how does drumpf pan out on the hypocrite scale?
I'm gonna go with raging, insufferable hypocrite.
 

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Yes that appears quite hypocritical of him, but like @1sikbITCH notes, his last criticism of Obama's travel expenditures is from 2014 while Obama's presidency lasted until nov' 2016 so to be fair Trump could've changed his views since then. It would still be interesting if a reporter points out his past tweets to him in regards to his situation.
 

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Whining about a few million USD when the army spends trillions on military contracts? Now don't get me wrong, Trump is a real asshole for being so inconsiderate of the budgetary limits but nonetheless this just seems like pointless drivel to me.

When does a "few" million turn into "a lot of millions". He had already wracked up about 30 million in security and travel expense by the 1st of May. That's more than "a few". And it's only about 4 months into his presidency. And for the record, annual military defense budget is about 580 billion a year.

EDIT - earlier this summer Congress approved a defense budget of close to 700 billion.
 

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Trump will exceed obama's 8 year entire travel costs by the end of the year, probably to the tune of 60+ million USD, mostly for completely unnecessary travel that the tax payer gets no actual benefit from.
Don't forget he was complaining about the 2-8 million USD the military spends on transgender healthcare yearly.
 

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Fair enough but I didn't claim annual military budget is in the trillions, contracts usually span multiple years.