Sniped again on EBAY!!!!

CorCentral

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I know about sniping and how it works on Ebay but never really thought that much about it because I don't buy on there that much. My last two deals have been last second bids where the Sniper wins 2-5 seconds by a $1.00 increment.
One major downside to this is that I'm currently on dialup (switching over to cable when I move next year)

Interested in knowing what programs are out there that will allow me to win at the last second like these other snipers.
Any other information you guys can provide that would be helpful will be greatly appreciated.

 

Toasthead

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bid the MOST yer willing to pay


if you lose, then its no biggie, you werent gonna pay that much anyway


Ive never understood sniping
 
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Originally posted by: Toasthead
bid the MOST yer willing to pay


if you lose, then its no biggie, you werent gonna pay that much anyway


Ive never understood sniping

Yeah, jeez, EBay uses proxy bidding so it'll only bid as much of your bid maximum as is required to win. Bid that amt initially....if you win, great, if not, then it was going to cost more than you wanted to spend so no biggie.
 

CorCentral

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Originally posted by: Toasthead
bid the MOST yer willing to pay

if you lose, then its no biggie, you werent gonna pay that much anyway
Ive never understood sniping


Well, when you get into bidding on certain collectible items and you see the same people bidding high on purpose just to hike up the price because they know you want the item. My situation has NOTHING to do with me bidding as high as I can. I DO, I always do. I'm one that tries to wait 'till the last 5min and bid $50.-$100. more than the current bid. It does'nt matter though because that sniper will just bid $1.00 higher at the last second and win the item because I cannot bid fast enough because of the Dial up Dilemma.

 
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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Toasthead
bid the MOST yer willing to pay


if you lose, then its no biggie, you werent gonna pay that much anyway


Ive never understood sniping

Yeah, jeez, EBay uses proxy bidding so it'll only bid as much of your bid maximum as is required to win. Bid that amt initially....if you win, great, if not, then it was going to cost more than you wanted to spend so no biggie.


The sniping service places the bid at a time you specify while the proxy bidding places your bid immediately. There is a difference.
 

BurnItDwn

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Ebay should get their act together and extend any auction that gets bid on during the last few minutes of the auction. Perhaps just a 10 minute extension to the auction if it is bid on during the last 10 minutes, and then another 10 minute extension any time there are more bids on it.

That way, the snipers never win...
 

jordanz

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Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Ebay should get their act together and extend any auction that gets bid on during the last few minutes of the auction. Perhaps just a 10 minute extension to the auction if it is bid on during the last 10 minutes, and then another 10 minute extension any time there are more bids on it.

That way, the snipers never win...

Neither will you.
 

BurnItDwn

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Originally posted by: jordanz
Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Ebay should get their act together and extend any auction that gets bid on during the last few minutes of the auction. Perhaps just a 10 minute extension to the auction if it is bid on during the last 10 minutes, and then another 10 minute extension any time there are more bids on it.

That way, the snipers never win...

Neither will you.


I won't as I don't use ebay any more. Back in the mid 90s, you could really save a lot of money by goin there, but nowadays, it's usually not worth the hastle IMO.
 
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Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Yeah, jeez, EBay uses proxy bidding so it'll only bid as much of your bid maximum as is required to win. Bid that amt initially....if you win, great, if not, then it was going to cost more than you wanted to spend so no biggie.


The sniping service places the bid at a time you specify while the proxy bidding places your bid immediately. There is a difference.

Why do you care when it places your bid? The proxy bid only places enough to make you the high bidder...no more.
 

simms

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Originally posted by: CorCentral
Originally posted by: Toasthead
bid the MOST yer willing to pay

if you lose, then its no biggie, you werent gonna pay that much anyway
Ive never understood sniping


Well, when you get into bidding on certain collectible items and you see the same people bidding high on purpose just to hike up the price because they know you want the item. My situation has NOTHING to do with me bidding as high as I can. I DO, I always do. I'm one that tries to wait 'till the last 5min and bid $50.-$100. more than the current bid. It does'nt matter though because that sniper will just bid $1.00 higher at the last second and win the item because I cannot bid fast enough because of the Dial up Dilemma.



Have you ever thought that THAT person's bid was proxied higher than yours? :confused: So if someone sets their max at $250, and you snipe so Ebay sees your bid (say $200)... eBay will give it to the other guy for $201. :rolleyes;
 

RaDragon

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I thought proxy bids are placed as soon as another person places a bid. So, if you originally put a high bid, and someone bids below your high bid, the next amount is placed -- up to the point that someone surpasses your proxy bid.

I was almost "sniped" before, but since I was willing to go higher up, and placed that on my proxy bid, I won the auction.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Toasthead
bid the MOST yer willing to pay


if you lose, then its no biggie, you werent gonna pay that much anyway


Ive never understood sniping

QFT

Figure out the absolute maximum you are willing to bid and bid it maybe 15-20 seconds prior to the close of auction. If you would have gone a dollar or two higher then obviously you didn't bid properly.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Why do you care when it places your bid? The proxy bid only places enough to make you the high bidder...no more.

We've discussed this numerous times in the past. Basically, there is a psychology to auctions. While you may be satisfied with placing your highest bid, the person who you outbid may not and may then outbid you. By placing your bid at the last moment, you eliminate this particular type of competition such as the OP, who obviously was willing to pay more.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: RaDragon
I thought proxy bids are placed as soon as another person places a bid. So, if you originally put a high bid, and someone bids below your high bid, the next amount is placed -- up to the point that someone surpasses your proxy bid.

I was almost "sniped" before, but since I was willing to go higher up, and placed that on my proxy bid, I won the auction.

I assumed this was how it worked as well. Is there some time-window where the maximum proxy bid would not automatically be placed? :confused:
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Toasthead
bid the MOST yer willing to pay


if you lose, then its no biggie, you werent gonna pay that much anyway


Ive never understood sniping

QFT

Figure out the absolute maximum you are willing to bid and bid it maybe 15-20 seconds prior to the close of auction. If you would have gone a dollar or two higher then obviously you didn't bid properly.



for those of us with lives, hanging around until the auction ends is a little bit of a hassle

I've gotten more deals than I can count by sniping, and I've saved time in the process
 

mcvickj

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: RaDragon
I thought proxy bids are placed as soon as another person places a bid. So, if you originally put a high bid, and someone bids below your high bid, the next amount is placed -- up to the point that someone surpasses your proxy bid.

I was almost "sniped" before, but since I was willing to go higher up, and placed that on my proxy bid, I won the auction.

I assumed this was how it worked as well. Is there some time-window where the maximum proxy bid would not automatically be placed? :confused:


Nope. AFAIK as soon as someone bids eBay will automatically bid for you. It does not wait.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: CorCentral
Originally posted by: Toasthead
bid the MOST yer willing to pay

if you lose, then its no biggie, you werent gonna pay that much anyway
Ive never understood sniping


Well, when you get into bidding on certain collectible items and you see the same people bidding high on purpose just to hike up the price because they know you want the item. My situation has NOTHING to do with me bidding as high as I can. I DO, I always do. I'm one that tries to wait 'till the last 5min and bid $50.-$100. more than the current bid. It does'nt matter though because that sniper will just bid $1.00 higher at the last second and win the item because I cannot bid fast enough because of the Dial up Dilemma.

Well, if you were willing to pay more for that item you should have bid that amount.

I was bidding on a surfboard last January and would have paid as much as $450 for it and I placed my bid at that amount with about 1 minute left on the auction and the price was at close to $306. I ended up getting the board for $360. It was a McTavish 9'0" Fireball longboard in almost new condition. This is a surfboard that sells new for over $800.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Toasthead
bid the MOST yer willing to pay


if you lose, then its no biggie, you werent gonna pay that much anyway


Ive never understood sniping

QFT

Figure out the absolute maximum you are willing to bid and bid it maybe 15-20 seconds prior to the close of auction. If you would have gone a dollar or two higher then obviously you didn't bid properly.



for those of us with lives, hanging around until the auction ends is a little bit of a hassle

I've gotten more deals than I can count by sniping, and I've saved time in the process

Oh yeah, because it takes what...30 seconds to figure out what you'll pay for something? I don't live on ebay but I do sometimes buy stuff on there. I don't see how sniping is any different than what I do.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Toasthead
bid the MOST yer willing to pay


if you lose, then its no biggie, you werent gonna pay that much anyway


Ive never understood sniping

QFT

Figure out the absolute maximum you are willing to bid and bid it maybe 15-20 seconds prior to the close of auction. If you would have gone a dollar or two higher then obviously you didn't bid properly.



for those of us with lives, hanging around until the auction ends is a little bit of a hassle

I've gotten more deals than I can count by sniping, and I've saved time in the process


So you actually take time out of you day and plan to win an auction by sniping...how does that constitute as having more of a life? Normally, people bid...go out, and when they have free time, they check to see if they won. That's why they give you atleast a 24 hour window for payment.
 

RaDragon

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Originally posted by: mcvickj
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: RaDragon
I thought proxy bids are placed as soon as another person places a bid. So, if you originally put a high bid, and someone bids below your high bid, the next amount is placed -- up to the point that someone surpasses your proxy bid.

I was almost "sniped" before, but since I was willing to go higher up, and placed that on my proxy bid, I won the auction.

I assumed this was how it worked as well. Is there some time-window where the maximum proxy bid would not automatically be placed? :confused:


Nope. AFAIK as soon as someone bids eBay will automatically bid for you. It does not wait.


Yup, that's what I thought -- it's almost instantaneous; if someone bids, and your proxy bid is higher, it'll put the next possible bid automatically.

I always put the most amount of money I'm willing to pay for a product -- if it goes higher and I lose the auction because of a proxy bid, then no worries; I didn't wanna pay that high anyway...